Design a own waterblock - Page 2

V12|V12 · 08-14-2002, 04:38 PM

That'd be GRrrrrrrrrEAT! So, does anyone know where I can get progs to make 3D visual maps and CAM routing?

maskedgeek · 08-14-2002, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by utabintarbo
Well, I whipped up this design in SolidWorks. It may bear some strange resemblance to a previously posted idea. Purely a coincidence

Bob

dude, connect the fins all the way thru, so its in one side and out the other, that would make a sweet block! no hassle of splitting tubes and whatnots...

koslov · 08-14-2002, 08:16 PM

utabintarbo, that looks great. Glad someone used my concept and took it a step further. Maybe you can attach the CAD model if it's not too big.

PlawsWorth, I think if you have enough resources, should definitely try out utabintarbo's design.

jaydee · 08-14-2002, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by maskedgeek

dude, connect the fins all the way thru, so its in one side and out the other, that would make a sweet block! no hassle of splitting tubes and whatnots...

They are not connected because I belive they intended a center outlet and to side inlets or center inlet and 2 side outlets. If that is the case this would fail miserably. But if they do connect the middle fins all the way through it may not be so bad as long as the outlet/inlet where huge.

Also V12 that program is roughly $3,000 so you may want to look for an alternative. I do ALL my designing and CAM routing with ACAD2000. Works pretty good with my desktop CNC as it doesn't like the bigger mills GNC code very much.

maskedgeek · 08-14-2002, 08:49 PM

yeah i know, thats the point, so ther isnt a third fitting, to make it easier, i bet it would work just as well or better!

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116

They are not connected because I belive they intended a center outlet and to side inlets or center inlet and 2 side outlets. If that is the case this would fail miserably. But if they do connect the middle fins all the way through it may not be so bad as long as the outlet/inlet where huge.

Also V12 that program is roughly $3,000 so you may want to look for an alternative. I do ALL my designing and CAM routing with ACAD2000. Works pretty good with my desktop CNC as it doesn't like the bigger mills GNC code very much.

The way it is set up now is with a 5/8" center inlet and 2 x 1/2" side outlets. Just a guess on my part as to the intention of the original design.

If anyone has any other ideas they want rendered into CAD data, just give me a jingle,

and I'll give it a shot.

As I stated before, I am also willing to do some NC Programming if that is needed. I guess I am spoiled by the tools I have available to me. Long live R & D departments!

Bob

jaydee · 08-14-2002, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by utabintarbo

The way it is set up now is with a 5/8" center inlet and 2 x 1/2" side outlets.

Bob

That was a good guess and right, but it will not work well as the outer channels will not do anything. All the water will go down in the middle and left to right. The outer channels will just hold stagnant water. At least that is how I am seeing it. It still may get decent results but it would be a waste of timke to mill out the channels that will not do anything.

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116

That was a good guess and right, but it will not work well as the outer channels will not do anything. All the water will go down in the middle and left to right. The outer channels will just hold stagnant water. At least that is how I am seeing it. It still may get decent results but it would be a waste of timke to mill out the channels that will not do anything.

Well, I'm kind of a spiral man myself, but I thought it would be a good exercise to put koslov's basic design into CAD form. Pretty too!

Bob

jaydee · 08-14-2002, 09:24 PM

Here is an example of what me and mask are saying. Connectthe fins. The problem though is in the middle. It goes from one channel to 3 channels back to one channel (where the yellow line is). This is not good. Also still concerned about the outer 2 channels. May not get any flow still. You would want a minimum of 1/2" ID barbs I would think.

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
Here is an example of what me and mask are saying. Connectthe fins. The problem though is in the middle. It goes from one channel to 3 channels back to one channel (where the yellow line is). This is not good. Also still concerned about the outer 2 channels. May not get any flow still. You would want a minimum of 1/2" ID barbs I would think.

Yeah, that was kind of a design compromise to make the channels more symmetrical - more esthetics than engineering. I will try to fix and re-post for your viewing pleasure!

Bob

V12|V12 · 08-16-2002, 06:39 PM

Okay will someone please PM me and get me links to a prog that will let me do drawings like that? PLZ, MS-Paint has reached it's limit!

thanks

jaydee · 08-16-2002, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by V12|V12
Okay will someone please PM me and get me links to a prog that will let me do drawings like that? PLZ, MS-Paint has reached it's limit!

thanks

There is no link to a program that will make drawings like that! It is an expensive program and cannot be replicated by an free software. There is Solid Works, 3d Studio Max, and a few others but they are all over $1,000. Maybe someone knows a cheaper version?

_Mike_ · 08-16-2002, 09:28 PM

Here is my idea for a waterblock. Please, please note, that it's NOT to scale, however accurate it may look.

EDIT: Working on a new hosting site, this one sucks

I think it would be pretty cool.[

sunblade · 08-16-2002, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by V12|V12
Okay will someone please PM me and get me links to a prog that will let me do drawings like that? PLZ, MS-Paint has reached it's limit!

I was browsing sourceforge looking for a cheap CAD app too, and I found this:

http://www.qcad.org/

QCad is a free opensource 2D CAD program for Linux and Windows. Of course, it can't touch the expensive design programs that can do fancy 3D, but it seems to be better than paint

I just downloaded it, so I have no experience with it, but I'm interested in learning it to try and make my first block design. Good Luck!

jaydee · 08-16-2002, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by sunblade

I was browsing sourceforge looking for a cheap CAD app too, and I found this:

http://www.qcad.org/

QCad is a free opensource 2D CAD program for Linux and Windows. Of course, it can't touch the expensive design programs that can do fancy 3D, but it seems to be better than paint I just downloaded it, so I have no experience with it, but I'm interested in learning it to try and make my first block design. Good Luck!

2D is just fine. I do all my block designs in ACAD2000 in 2D. Once the design is set I make the tool paths (yes still in acad) and then dselete the other lines and then save as a DXF. Then I load the DXF into my CNC mill software and it generates the basic GNC code (the code than makes the CNC go where it is supposed to go) and then I edit the GNC code to make it work the way I want it to.

This process works just fine for simple designs. IF you want somw fancy detailing ect then 3D can be used. My mill doesn't have a 4th axis so 3d stuff really isn't to usefull to me. But the 3D views look cool.

PlawsWorth · 09-06-2002, 06:35 PM

Well I found this block on a swedish forum. The final waterblock will look almost exactly like this. My problem know is to get a good radiator. The more reviews I read, the more confused I get, seems like all radiators like black ice and some noname get's between 38-46C. and people on the forum says it should just be a bit over the room temp. which that clearly isn't. So buying a BiX seems like an overkill that cost more money.

08-14-2002, 04:38 PM	#26
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	That'd be GRrrrrrrrrEAT! So, does anyone know where I can get progs to make 3D visual maps and CAM routing? __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

08-16-2002, 06:39 PM	#36
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	Okay will someone please PM me and get me links to a prog that will let me do drawings like that? PLZ, MS-Paint has reached it's limit! thanks __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

08-16-2002, 09:28 PM	#38
_Mike_ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	Here is my idea for a waterblock. Please, please note, that it's NOT to scale, however accurate it may look. EDIT: Working on a new hosting site, this one sucks I think it would be pretty cool.[ Last edited by _Mike_; 08-16-2002 at 09:33 PM.

09-06-2002, 06:35 PM	#41
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	final Well I found this block on a swedish forum. The final waterblock will look almost exactly like this. My problem know is to get a good radiator. The more reviews I read, the more confused I get, seems like all radiators like black ice and some noname get's between 38-46C. and people on the forum says it should just be a bit over the room temp. which that clearly isn't. So buying a BiX seems like an overkill that cost more money. __________________ cocaine addict

08-14-2002, 08:16 PM	#28
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	utabintarbo, that looks great. Glad someone used my concept and took it a step further. Maybe you can attach the CAD model if it's not too big. PlawsWorth, I think if you have enough resources, should definitely try out utabintarbo's design.

08-14-2002, 08:49 PM	#30
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	yeah i know, thats the point, so ther isnt a third fitting, to make it easier, i bet it would work just as well or better!

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