BEWARE!!..Ripped off by Matt from OCZ

Cablepro · 04-10-2001, 07:06 PM

I was shopping for an AVIA 1 gig chip...I icq'ed matt to ask if the OCZ had AVIA's and if I could request one specifically..

He said they did, but there was going to be a shipping delay, and said if I paypal'ed him $220, he would take care of the order and ship it out personally...I thought I was on the receiving end of a kind act, since I had done business with matt and ocz several times before...

I received the chip the very next day via Airborne Express from the address of the OCZ store...

I did nothing with the chip that day, because I was waiting for sandpaper to arrive, believe it or not...Matt icq'ed me and asked me if I had tried the chip...I told him I had not, and he urged me to try it out as soon as possible...I promised I would install it the next day...

Well, that next day, I also received my Duron that I had ordered from OCZ a week prior...so I installed the Duron, and booted up...WOW!...I got 1gig right off the bat with 1.75V...I was impressed with the chip...

So I shut down, pulled out the Duron, and with high hopes, installed the AVIA 1gig...it would not post...so I checked to make sure everything was seated properly...I got no post, nothing...

I contacted Matt, and he told me to inspect the chip...I took out a magnifying glass, and confirmed that the bridges were in perfect condition...the core looked good, but there was a tiny bit of white color along the edge of the top of the core...Matt immediately told me that I fried my chip due to thermal damage...

I was appalled...the chip had been turned on for about 3 seconds at a time, twice...once no beeps were heard, it was shut down...all the while, attached to my waterblock with water pumping through it kept at a temperature of 26C(I have an inline thermistor)...the Duron ran at 28C at 1000mhz fine with this same setup...

I told matt I was very disappointed, and he told me there was no way that he could pull $200 out of his pocket to replace a chip for me...I told him I was pissed because the day after I ordered that chip from him for $220, the OCZ listed a sale on AVIA chips for only $209...SURELY matt was privvy to that information prior to selling me that chip...after 15 minutes of reasoning with him, he agreed that he would get me a replacement chip somehow...I thanked him, and I agreed that "I owed him big", just to appease him, so that I could have a better chance of getting a replacement chip...

I asked him where I should send this chip back to, and he told me don't worry about it, just KEEP IT!!!...I couldn't believe it...he did a diagnosis over the phone for thermal damage, and did not even want to see the chip?? I had a sick feeling in my stomach at that moment that he must have known the chip was bad when he shipped it out....I mean, I have been talking with Matt for some time now, and I KNOW his ego...he always claimed that he could get chipped and damaged chips to run...why didn't he even want this one back??

well, some time went by, and I heard nothing...I icq'ed matt, and got no response...so today, I called OCZ, and guess who answered the phone? Matt...he says right away, "Hey, did you get my icq?", nope...I never got an icq from Matt...he claims that he got in trouble for trying to steal stuff from the store, and had a sit-down with his boss about it, and that it's not worth losing his job to try and get me a replacement chip...and that was that...I was at work, so I did not get into it with him...I know now that I will NEVER see a chip from Matt to replace the garbage he sent me...so I thought I'd warn those of you that have helped me so much with advice and troubleshooting in the past....BE WARNED!!!...

Kevin · 04-11-2001, 01:13 AM

Gee... that's odd.. Never heard of people having problems w/ OCZ before... Cough! Cough!
Sux man... sorry. Geez. That's $200+ you were taken for.
-Kev

Cablepro · 04-11-2001, 10:11 AM

Well, I figured it would happen, and it did...the guys at forumoc.com (used to be the forum of athlonoc.com), removed the thread from the forum after only 6 hours...150+views, 20+replies....now it's gone...

guess some people still have their nose up Matt's ass...(they are probably still waiting in hopes for a replacement chip, heh)

then I get a personal message from Matt, threatening me that it's not a good idea on my part to try to ruin his life

Microsoft · 04-11-2001, 10:49 AM

thats why I only buy my chips retail, cant stand all these lying aholes. that screw with people.

Kevin · 04-11-2001, 04:25 PM

I think PCNut is a GREAT source though... seriously. Don't rule them out as they are cheaper than microsoft...

Joe · 04-11-2001, 04:31 PM

hehehe Yeh OCZ is just about as crooked as they come. PCNut is good, and I trust them, and for NON pre tested chips Mwave is great.

ealiston · 04-14-2001, 05:26 PM

Guess CablePro FORGOT to add the Update

And here I thought you were in awe that Ryan over at OCZ was giving you a replacement chip at OCZ's cost even though the Deal was a personal Deal with MATT, NOT OCZ

p[ara]d0x · 04-14-2001, 07:06 PM

Sucks that it happened to ya man, but that's why I only buy retail at local stores (at least when it comes to CPUs.)

Liqwid Cooling Addict · 04-19-2001, 05:14 PM

I don`t buy w/ ppl via ICQ. I always buy on an online store. Even then I always print out the page confirming my order.

Cablepro · 04-19-2001, 11:22 PM

sorry, ealston...have been studying for my final exams...and shopping for R/C airplane stuff(which has occupied MOST of my time, hehe)

but why are you such a pain in the ass?? you have to make shitty remarks on every one of my threads...Matt told me to paypal him the money and he would ship the chip out personally, so that I wouldn't have to wait the usual 2 week wait for OCZ...he took my order while he was AT ocz...he shipped it out while AT ocz...he shipped it out with an ocz shipping label...so I assumed this was on the up and up...

and when I posted on the ForumOC that he was lying, you jumped down my throat, saying how could I know he killed the chip...

I wasn't talking about him lying about killing the chip...I was talking about him lying to me about everything...he chipped a 750 of mine, and admitted it to me on the phone(before it even arrived at my house, he called me to tell me about it)...then he denied it...then he told me ....

you know what, ealston? you're a waste of time...I wont bother anybody else here with this crap...

but as a note, Ryan, owner of OCZ called me up and said he would send me out a replacement chip...and I posted on ForumOC about it, but forgot to post here about it...that was a bit more than a week ago...I am waiting to hear from Ryan regarding when this is supposed to take place...

so if this actually goes through, I would say that OCZ actually reacted honorably...

I DO believe that Ryan will make good on his word...but the man is more difficult to reach than President Bush...I am stuck with only being able to leave messages at OCZ (with Matt) for Ryan to call me...so I'm not even certain that Ryan is even getting my messages...

ealiston · 04-23-2001, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cablepro:

and when I posted on the ForumOC that he was lying, you jumped down my throat, saying how could I know he killed the chip...

.

I realize you were upset then, and heard only the Bad about you (basically what you thought I was saying).
What I said is that I had a chip die sitting on a shelf and it COULD have been NO Ones fault,Not Yours Nor Matts; AND that you guys threatning to kill each other over it would not solve anything.

I was trying to be a diplomat in the situation, Sorry you did not see it that way.

I hope the New Chip you got works well for you, I never wished to be a pain in your ass. I just felt that when spreading the Bad side LOUDLY, the flip side/Follow up SHOULD also Be noted.

Cebu · 04-24-2001, 09:48 PM

I just registered on this forum so I could post in this thread. I have had the misfortune of of getting in bed with those dogs and I definitely got out of bed with fleas on me. I bought a gladiator heatsink from them and it was the most unprofessional online business I have ever seen. I post anywhere and everywhere trying to warn people about those crooks. They are nothing but a bunch of thugs who will steal your money and then argue and lie to you about the faulty product they sent you. Take a look at their rating on
http://www.resellerratings.com/comvi...rclockersstore

and post your comments to warn others who are seduced into purchasing from them. The only thing I can say about those who don't listen to Cablepro and myself. If you do business with them and get screwed, don't say you weren't warned.

JaNus · 05-31-2001, 01:55 AM

Since your gtting to keep the old chip, If I pay shipping can I have it?

00silverGT · 06-01-2001, 03:18 PM

Thanks guys, I was considering buying a HSF from these guys...What do you guys think of CrazyPC?

Finx · 06-12-2001, 02:25 AM

AYEEYE , Crazy PC is really good , I ordered with them and he kept me in full contact with any questions and always answers right away and tries to help you out.

matrickage · 06-16-2001, 01:03 AM

Cablepro YOU ARE A CHIP KILLA!! you know it I know it... you even killed a 750 back in August with an RMA number... no offense just wanted you guys to know DO NOT SELL CHIPS TO THIS DUDE!!

BTW Scott, Ryan was the one who said not to replace your chip.. it was a managerial decsion and one that really made me look like the badguy!!

UnaClocker · 06-16-2001, 04:49 AM

If you don't want to look like the bad guy, take it up the butt now and then, and replace the customer's CPU's. You'll make more money in the long run because of the good reputation you'll get. Granted, it's WAAAAAYYYYY beyond that point for your company, but in the next lifetime..

Joe · 06-16-2001, 08:13 AM

sorry, we dont let un-ethical vendors who rip people off come in here to knock users after you screwed them.

matt's been banned from here also. No one needs that OCZ crap around here.

Highvoltagepc · 07-03-2001, 02:56 PM

man sorry to hear that you got ripped off,report them to the bbb,i cant believe they have been able to operate this long,glad to hear about the banning of matt the _____! ,thanks joe

72 510 · 07-03-2001, 06:40 PM

hey Cebu get a ****ing life, its OCZ fault that Airborne Express lost your package, Joe looks like your sponsor has a shitty reseller rating, better drop them to, you guys crack me up

Sled_Dog · 07-09-2001, 12:06 PM

OCZ sux. Had shit with there shipping in all. I think we have all been raped by OCZ one way or another. The way you were raped sux major ass though.

Sled_Dog · 07-09-2001, 12:13 PM

One thing why when you had shit with Matt and OCZ before would you again deal with him?

Darkhorse · 07-09-2001, 12:25 PM

Sled,

Can't think why you've been banned from other forums!

72 510 · 07-09-2001, 08:57 PM

Guilty until proven innocent, whatever

04-10-2001, 07:06 PM	#1
Cablepro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Daytona Beach, FL USA Posts: 93	BEWARE!!..Ripped off by Matt from OCZ I was shopping for an AVIA 1 gig chip...I icq'ed matt to ask if the OCZ had AVIA's and if I could request one specifically.. He said they did, but there was going to be a shipping delay, and said if I paypal'ed him $220, he would take care of the order and ship it out personally...I thought I was on the receiving end of a kind act, since I had done business with matt and ocz several times before... I received the chip the very next day via Airborne Express from the address of the OCZ store... I did nothing with the chip that day, because I was waiting for sandpaper to arrive, believe it or not...Matt icq'ed me and asked me if I had tried the chip...I told him I had not, and he urged me to try it out as soon as possible...I promised I would install it the next day... Well, that next day, I also received my Duron that I had ordered from OCZ a week prior...so I installed the Duron, and booted up...WOW!...I got 1gig right off the bat with 1.75V...I was impressed with the chip... So I shut down, pulled out the Duron, and with high hopes, installed the AVIA 1gig...it would not post...so I checked to make sure everything was seated properly...I got no post, nothing... I contacted Matt, and he told me to inspect the chip...I took out a magnifying glass, and confirmed that the bridges were in perfect condition...the core looked good, but there was a tiny bit of white color along the edge of the top of the core...Matt immediately told me that I fried my chip due to thermal damage... I was appalled...the chip had been turned on for about 3 seconds at a time, twice...once no beeps were heard, it was shut down...all the while, attached to my waterblock with water pumping through it kept at a temperature of 26C(I have an inline thermistor)...the Duron ran at 28C at 1000mhz fine with this same setup... I told matt I was very disappointed, and he told me there was no way that he could pull $200 out of his pocket to replace a chip for me...I told him I was pissed because the day after I ordered that chip from him for $220, the OCZ listed a sale on AVIA chips for only $209...SURELY matt was privvy to that information prior to selling me that chip...after 15 minutes of reasoning with him, he agreed that he would get me a replacement chip somehow...I thanked him, and I agreed that "I owed him big", just to appease him, so that I could have a better chance of getting a replacement chip... I asked him where I should send this chip back to, and he told me don't worry about it, just KEEP IT!!!...I couldn't believe it...he did a diagnosis over the phone for thermal damage, and did not even want to see the chip?? I had a sick feeling in my stomach at that moment that he must have known the chip was bad when he shipped it out....I mean, I have been talking with Matt for some time now, and I KNOW his ego...he always claimed that he could get chipped and damaged chips to run...why didn't he even want this one back?? well, some time went by, and I heard nothing...I icq'ed matt, and got no response...so today, I called OCZ, and guess who answered the phone? Matt...he says right away, "Hey, did you get my icq?", nope...I never got an icq from Matt...he claims that he got in trouble for trying to steal stuff from the store, and had a sit-down with his boss about it, and that it's not worth losing his job to try and get me a replacement chip...and that was that...I was at work, so I did not get into it with him...I know now that I will NEVER see a chip from Matt to replace the garbage he sent me...so I thought I'd warn those of you that have helped me so much with advice and troubleshooting in the past....BE WARNED!!!...

04-11-2001, 01:13 AM	#2
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	Gee... that's odd.. Never heard of people having problems w/ OCZ before... Cough! Cough! Sux man... sorry. Geez. That's $200+ you were taken for. -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-11-2001, 10:49 AM	#4
Microsoft Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 286	thats why I only buy my chips retail, cant stand all these lying aholes. that screw with people. __________________ Moderator: www.procooling.com take a pill then Aki in Leather: http://www.tenarrus.com/kcdms/akiinleder001.jpg

04-11-2001, 04:25 PM	#5
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	I think PCNut is a GREAT source though... seriously. Don't rule them out as they are cheaper than microsoft... __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-11-2001, 04:31 PM	#6
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	hehehe Yeh OCZ is just about as crooked as they come. PCNut is good, and I trust them, and for NON pre tested chips Mwave is great. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

04-11-2001, 10:11 AM	#3
Cablepro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Daytona Beach, FL USA Posts: 93	Well, I figured it would happen, and it did...the guys at forumoc.com (used to be the forum of athlonoc.com), removed the thread from the forum after only 6 hours...150+views, 20+replies....now it's gone... guess some people still have their nose up Matt's ass...(they are probably still waiting in hopes for a replacement chip, heh) then I get a personal message from Matt, threatening me that it's not a good idea on my part to try to ruin his life

04-14-2001, 05:26 PM	#7
ealiston Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: North Lima, Ohio, U.S.A. Posts: 4	Guess CablePro FORGOT to add the Update And here I thought you were in awe that Ryan over at OCZ was giving you a replacement chip at OCZ's cost even though the Deal was a personal Deal with MATT, NOT OCZ

04-14-2001, 07:06 PM	#8
p[ara]d0x Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: MI Posts: 66	Sucks that it happened to ya man, but that's why I only buy retail at local stores (at least when it comes to CPUs.) __________________ -=== :[ara]d0x:: ===- -= http://pd0x.ath.cx/ =-

04-19-2001, 05:14 PM	#9
Liqwid Cooling Addict Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 5	I don`t buy w/ ppl via ICQ. I always buy on an online store. Even then I always print out the page confirming my order. __________________ Hmmm... I wonder how my H2O system woould benefit if I put dry ice in the reservoir....

04-19-2001, 11:22 PM	#10
Cablepro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Daytona Beach, FL USA Posts: 93	sorry, ealston...have been studying for my final exams...and shopping for R/C airplane stuff(which has occupied MOST of my time, hehe) but why are you such a pain in the ass?? you have to make shitty remarks on every one of my threads...Matt told me to paypal him the money and he would ship the chip out personally, so that I wouldn't have to wait the usual 2 week wait for OCZ...he took my order while he was AT ocz...he shipped it out while AT ocz...he shipped it out with an ocz shipping label...so I assumed this was on the up and up... and when I posted on the ForumOC that he was lying, you jumped down my throat, saying how could I know he killed the chip... I wasn't talking about him lying about killing the chip...I was talking about him lying to me about everything...he chipped a 750 of mine, and admitted it to me on the phone(before it even arrived at my house, he called me to tell me about it)...then he denied it...then he told me .... you know what, ealston? you're a waste of time...I wont bother anybody else here with this crap... but as a note, Ryan, owner of OCZ called me up and said he would send me out a replacement chip...and I posted on ForumOC about it, but forgot to post here about it...that was a bit more than a week ago...I am waiting to hear from Ryan regarding when this is supposed to take place... so if this actually goes through, I would say that OCZ actually reacted honorably... I DO believe that Ryan will make good on his word...but the man is more difficult to reach than President Bush...I am stuck with only being able to leave messages at OCZ (with Matt) for Ryan to call me...so I'm not even certain that Ryan is even getting my messages...

04-24-2001, 09:48 PM	#12
Cebu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1	I just registered on this forum so I could post in this thread. I have had the misfortune of of getting in bed with those dogs and I definitely got out of bed with fleas on me. I bought a gladiator heatsink from them and it was the most unprofessional online business I have ever seen. I post anywhere and everywhere trying to warn people about those crooks. They are nothing but a bunch of thugs who will steal your money and then argue and lie to you about the faulty product they sent you. Take a look at their rating on http://www.resellerratings.com/comvi...rclockersstore and post your comments to warn others who are seduced into purchasing from them. The only thing I can say about those who don't listen to Cablepro and myself. If you do business with them and get screwed, don't say you weren't warned.

05-31-2001, 01:55 AM	#13
JaNus Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2001 Location: Behind you... Posts: 1	Since your gtting to keep the old chip, If I pay shipping can I have it? __________________ ABIT KT7 Duron600@1000 GeForce2mx 96mb PC100 RAM 50x CD-rom 12x8x32 CD-RW

06-01-2001, 03:18 PM	#14
00silverGT Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2001 Location: CA Posts: 10	Thanks guys, I was considering buying a HSF from these guys...What do you guys think of CrazyPC?

06-12-2001, 02:25 AM	#15
Finx Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Glenview , Illinois Posts: 35	AYEEYE , Crazy PC is really good , I ordered with them and he kept me in full contact with any questions and always answers right away and tries to help you out.

06-16-2001, 01:03 AM	#16
matrickage Foo's Been Banned Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 12	Cablepro YOU ARE A CHIP KILLA!! you know it I know it... you even killed a 750 back in August with an RMA number... no offense just wanted you guys to know DO NOT SELL CHIPS TO THIS DUDE!! BTW Scott, Ryan was the one who said not to replace your chip.. it was a managerial decsion and one that really made me look like the badguy!!

06-16-2001, 04:49 AM	#17
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	If you don't want to look like the bad guy, take it up the butt now and then, and replace the customer's CPU's. You'll make more money in the long run because of the good reputation you'll get. Granted, it's WAAAAAYYYYY beyond that point for your company, but in the next lifetime.. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

06-16-2001, 08:13 AM	#18
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	sorry, we dont let un-ethical vendors who rip people off come in here to knock users after you screwed them. matt's been banned from here also. No one needs that OCZ crap around here. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

07-03-2001, 02:56 PM	#19
Highvoltagepc Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA Posts: 50	man sorry to hear that you got ripped off,report them to the bbb,i cant believe they have been able to operate this long,glad to hear about the banning of matt the _____! ,thanks joe __________________ DFI LANPARTY~Socket A....GEFORCE 6800 GT OC at Ultra speeds,Upgrade time again....

07-03-2001, 06:40 PM	#20
72 510 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 17	hey Cebu get a ****ing life, its OCZ fault that Airborne Express lost your package, Joe looks like your sponsor has a shitty reseller rating, better drop them to, you guys crack me up __________________ Got Chillers?

07-09-2001, 12:06 PM	#21
Sled_Dog Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Snowyland(not Alaska) Posts: 238	OCZ sux. Had shit with there shipping in all. I think we have all been raped by OCZ one way or another. The way you were raped sux major ass though. __________________ pro/chat has a website now? wow

07-09-2001, 12:13 PM	#22
Sled_Dog Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Snowyland(not Alaska) Posts: 238	One thing why when you had shit with Matt and OCZ before would you again deal with him? __________________ pro/chat has a website now? wow

07-09-2001, 12:25 PM	#23
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	Sled, Can't think why you've been banned from other forums!

07-09-2001, 08:57 PM	#24
72 510 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 17	Guilty until proven innocent, whatever __________________ Got Chillers?

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