Go Back   Pro/Forums > ProCooling Technical Discussions > General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat

General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion For discussion about Full Cooling System kits, or general cooling topics. Keep specific cooling items like pumps, radiators, etc... in their specific forums.

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 06-18-2004, 09:49 AM   #1
Moony
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 48
Default Iwaki MD-30RZ-N07 Question

I just ordered this pump from ebay. I was wondering what the n07 specification meant, and what size barbs are on the pump. Here's a link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...822554135&rd=1
Moony is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-18-2004, 05:20 PM   #2
murray13
Cooling Savant
 
murray13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Omaha, NE USA
Posts: 216
Default

Don't know for sure but it looks like a custom housing. With 5/8" hose barb connections. That might be what the 'N07' means. Either way looks like a nice pump.
murray13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-18-2004, 09:59 PM   #3
pauldenton
Cooling Savant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london, england
Posts: 416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by murray13
Don't know for sure but it looks like a custom housing. With 5/8" hose barb connections. That might be what the 'N07' means. Either way looks like a nice pump.
looks like a standard housing to me (same as my wmd-30RZs have)
specs here (page 6 of 8) - has 18MM OD fittings (can't really call them barbs as they're not barbed - inlet is smooth, outlet has a two ridges)
http://www.iwakipumps.jp/products_e/...f/md_w2003.pdf
pauldenton is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-18-2004, 11:35 PM   #4
murray13
Cooling Savant
 
murray13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Omaha, NE USA
Posts: 216
Default

Well 18mm metric corresponds to a 5/8" 'barb' connection. Only having a 3/4" NPT MD30RZ myself I wasn't sure.
murray13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 01:32 AM   #5
Moony
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 48
Default

Okay, so I can just fit my 1/2'' ID tubing over the ends...but is there any performance difference between this pump and a normal MD30-RZT?
Moony is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 02:31 AM   #6
gkiing
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Canada!
Posts: 21
Default

I doubt it, although you may get slightly more flow if you use a larger inlet barb.
gkiing is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 08:21 AM   #7
Moony
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 48
Default

So I can just slide the tubes on and I wont get any performance degradation? Or do I still have to build a res attached to the inlet?
Moony is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 04:04 PM   #8
gkiing
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Canada!
Posts: 21
Default

You can just slide the tubes on, 1/2" id tubes will probably fit, as 1/2 id = 4/8, and it's 5/8 fittings. You don't need to build a res attached to the inlet. What I said was that using a larger inlet such as a 3/4" will yield slightly better performance.
gkiing is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 07:23 PM   #9
pauldenton
Cooling Savant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london, england
Posts: 416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by murray13
Well 18mm metric corresponds to a 5/8" 'barb' connection. Only having a 3/4" NPT MD30RZ myself I wasn't sure.
not quite - 5/8" would be 15.875mm - 3/4" 19.05mm so it's quite a bit bigger than 5/8"... i imagine getting 1/2" ID over it wouldn't be too difficult given use of boiling water if neccessary....
pauldenton is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-19-2004, 10:35 PM   #10
murray13
Cooling Savant
 
murray13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Omaha, NE USA
Posts: 216
Default

Actually a 5/8" hose barb isn't actually 5/8" dia. Think about it, if the barb was exactly the same size as the hose inside dia they would just slide on and off very easily. I just looked up one manuf. hose barb sizes and for a 5/8" barb the largest part of the barb is .712" or 18.08mm.

So yes 18mm is the same as a 5/8" 'barb' connection.
murray13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-20-2004, 06:28 PM   #11
pauldenton
Cooling Savant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london, england
Posts: 416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by murray13
Actually a 5/8" hose barb isn't actually 5/8" dia. Think about it, if the barb was exactly the same size as the hose inside dia they would just slide on and off very easily. I just looked up one manuf. hose barb sizes and for a 5/8" barb the largest part of the barb is .712" or 18.08mm.

So yes 18mm is the same as a 5/8" 'barb' connection.
cheers - i stand corrected (kind of)

good to know my 5/8" ID tygon should do fine!
pauldenton is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-27-2004, 11:58 PM   #12
mannyaguilar
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2
Default Saltwater Aquarium

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldenton
cheers - i stand corrected (kind of)

good to know my 5/8" ID tygon should do fine!
Hi all. I am buying an Iwaki pump for my slatwater aquarium (125 gal.) and I was wondering if you could tell me if this pump (IWAKI MAGNET MD-30RZ-N07) would do the job. They are Japanese motors, right? Any problem for saltwater use? I was planning on a MD40RLXT but it goes for $260. I can get two MD-30RZ-N07 for $75 (each, used). Would you think they would work. I am new using pumps for an aquarium, I am upgrading from a 30 gal. that used powerheads and power filter as well as a skimmer. Thanks in advance for the help. Manny.
mannyaguilar is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-28-2004, 02:03 AM   #13
JoeKamel
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Da NBH
Posts: 68
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mannyaguilar
Hi all. I am buying an Iwaki pump for my slatwater aquarium (125 gal.) and I was wondering if you could tell me if this pump (IWAKI MAGNET MD-30RZ-N07) would do the job. They are Japanese motors, right? Any problem for saltwater use? I was planning on a MD40RLXT but it goes for $260. I can get two MD-30RZ-N07 for $75 (each, used). Would you think they would work. I am new using pumps for an aquarium, I am upgrading from a 30 gal. that used powerheads and power filter as well as a skimmer. Thanks in advance for the help. Manny.
Well, considering that for saltwater tanks they suggest a turnover rate of 6-8 times an hour, unless you have a 1 gallon tank, its no good. You're going to have to figure out what you plan on using for a filtration system, if you're planning on running more than just a skimmer, stay with the RLT, they deal with pressure drop a lot better than the RXLT. Basically, multiply your tank size by 6 (I'd actually go higher, the fish in your tank are probably going to wind up costing more than your pump by a long shot so don't skimp), and then figure out the pressure drop from all your piping and filtration stuff and then find a pump that has the flow you need at that pressure drop.

If you need more info, try a forum that's actually about aquariums, like

http://www.aquariumfish.com/anforum/
JoeKamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-28-2004, 02:32 AM   #14
mannyaguilar
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeKamel
Well, considering that for saltwater tanks they suggest a turnover rate of 6-8 times an hour, unless you have a 1 gallon tank, its no good. You're going to have to figure out what you plan on using for a filtration system, if you're planning on running more than just a skimmer, stay with the RLT, they deal with pressure drop a lot better than the RXLT. Basically, multiply your tank size by 6 (I'd actually go higher, the fish in your tank are probably going to wind up costing more than your pump by a long shot so don't skimp), and then figure out the pressure drop from all your piping and filtration stuff and then find a pump that has the flow you need at that pressure drop.

If you need more info, try a forum that's actually about aquariums, like

http://www.aquariumfish.com/anforum/
Thanks for the information. The reason I asked about this particular pump here is because I did a search on this model and this forum was the only result. I will check the website you recommend. Thanks for the prompt response. Manny.
mannyaguilar is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-28-2004, 10:05 PM   #15
pauldenton
Cooling Savant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london, england
Posts: 416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mannyaguilar
Thanks for the information. The reason I asked about this particular pump here is because I did a search on this model and this forum was the only result. I will check the website you recommend. Thanks for the prompt response. Manny.
there's a WMD-40RLXT (i.e the american motored version of the one you were looking at) on ebay atm for $159....
pauldenton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2005 ProCooling.com
If we in some way offend you, insult you or your people, screw your mom, beat up your dad, or poop on your porch... we're sorry... we were probably really drunk...
Oh and dont steal our content bitches! Don't give us a reason to pee in your open car window this summer...