question for epox 8kha+ owners

resago · 03-14-2002, 10:57 AM

I'm building a graphics workstation for my wife, I'm giong with the epox 8kha+ MB and a 1700+xp chip, my question is with the memory. does this MB support ECC? or should I just get regtistered DDR PC2100 ?

does the MB have to support ECC or is it just RAM logic?

Any help and suggestions on how to make this a really stable system is greatly appreciated.

iceheart · 03-14-2002, 12:47 PM

No VIA Athlon chipsets support ECC or Registered RAM, in fact I believe that they are keyed differntly so they won't even fit.

resago · 03-14-2002, 01:00 PM

can anyone validate this? I was under the assumption that registered dram simply helped with large memory configurations.

iceheart · 03-14-2002, 01:21 PM

Hmm I might be smoking crack but I actually believed that ECC would simply not work in the 8KHA+ but it looks like it will work but simply not use the ECC functionality:

This is the recommended memory list for 8KHA+
http://www.cmtlabs.com/Quicksearch/E...sp?st=EP-8KHA+

Now I will simply shut up and say nothing one way or the other

iceheart · 03-14-2002, 01:21 PM

But this is said on the EPOX spec page: (which also links to that other page)

"3x DDR-SDRAM Slots for PC2100.
1.5GB max. supported.
Non-ECC"

Brad · 03-14-2002, 08:56 PM

if you wanted real good stability, you wouldn't buy a via chipset anyway, I doubt ecc would help anything via

cristoff · 03-15-2002, 09:28 AM

Yeah ECC is mainly used for servers becuase of the massive amounts of data that is being transported and used at the same time. With her... the Validation ram or ECC wouldnt have any effect on her work. In fact it will make the computer a little slower... not that she would notice..
Although the Epox does support the DDR ram it will not support the ECC spec... But its not becuase of the physical aspect of the ram or the slot it goes in.

Your best bet for stability and being fast is a a Soyo, ABit or a Epox. Rated highest on Anandtech.com.

resago · 03-15-2002, 09:48 AM

should I still get the registered ram though? It should help If I max out the board right?

Brad · 03-15-2002, 03:24 PM

no it won't, just buy 256mb or 512mb of normal ram, and forget about the rest

UpAllNight · 05-08-2002, 01:15 PM

crucial ram seems to be the choice of alot of epox 8kha+ users...thats what i have and im very happy with the stability even at 172 FBS

jtroutma · 05-08-2002, 11:43 PM

The only thing ECC memory is good for is in mission CRITICAL servers and dual Mother boards. The ECC is simmilar to the old Parity RAM modules from back when SIMMS were the thing to have

Technical side:

ECC memory is 72Bits wide instead of only 64bits. These extra bits act as testers on the RAM to see if errors are being generated. If a Motherboard with uses ECC memory detects an error, the BIOS is suppost to lock the machine immediately and give an ECC error message.

There is no reason to use ECC memory over Non-ECC memory unless the motherboard requires it for operation.

I could go into a more technical decription of how ECC is suppose to work vs. Non-ECC but I think I would bore all of you

Hope this helps

03-14-2002, 10:57 AM	#1
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	question for epox 8kha+ owners I'm building a graphics workstation for my wife, I'm giong with the epox 8kha+ MB and a 1700+xp chip, my question is with the memory. does this MB support ECC? or should I just get regtistered DDR PC2100 ? does the MB have to support ECC or is it just RAM logic? Any help and suggestions on how to make this a really stable system is greatly appreciated. __________________ 2.4Ghz Compaq Workstation 2.8Ghz Custom 2700+ Custom still running 2000!!!! Help with Coding www.resago.com

03-14-2002, 01:21 PM	#5
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	But this is said on the EPOX spec page: (which also links to that other page) "3x DDR-SDRAM Slots for PC2100. 1.5GB max. supported. Non-ECC" Last edited by iceheart; 03-14-2002 at 01:27 PM.

03-14-2002, 08:56 PM	#6
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	if you wanted real good stability, you wouldn't buy a via chipset anyway, I doubt ecc would help anything via __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-15-2002, 09:28 AM	#7
cristoff Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Posts: 185	Yeah ECC is mainly used for servers becuase of the massive amounts of data that is being transported and used at the same time. With her... the Validation ram or ECC wouldnt have any effect on her work. In fact it will make the computer a little slower... not that she would notice.. Although the Epox does support the DDR ram it will not support the ECC spec... But its not becuase of the physical aspect of the ram or the slot it goes in. Your best bet for stability and being fast is a a Soyo, ABit or a Epox. Rated highest on Anandtech.com. __________________ fr33t3chi3

03-15-2002, 09:48 AM	#8
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	should I still get the registered ram though? It should help If I max out the board right? Last edited by resago; 03-15-2002 at 09:51 AM.

03-14-2002, 12:47 PM	#2
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	No VIA Athlon chipsets support ECC or Registered RAM, in fact I believe that they are keyed differntly so they won't even fit.

03-14-2002, 01:00 PM	#3
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	can anyone validate this? I was under the assumption that registered dram simply helped with large memory configurations.

03-15-2002, 03:24 PM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	no it won't, just buy 256mb or 512mb of normal ram, and forget about the rest __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-08-2002, 01:15 PM	#10
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	crucial ram seems to be the choice of alot of epox 8kha+ users...thats what i have and im very happy with the stability even at 172 FBS __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-08-2002, 11:43 PM	#11
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	The only thing ECC memory is good for is in mission CRITICAL servers and dual Mother boards. The ECC is simmilar to the old Parity RAM modules from back when SIMMS were the thing to have Technical side: ECC memory is 72Bits wide instead of only 64bits. These extra bits act as testers on the RAM to see if errors are being generated. If a Motherboard with uses ECC memory detects an error, the BIOS is suppost to lock the machine immediately and give an ECC error message. There is no reason to use ECC memory over Non-ECC memory unless the motherboard requires it for operation. I could go into a more technical decription of how ECC is suppose to work vs. Non-ECC but I think I would bore all of you Hope this helps __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

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