[H]ard forum sux nutz.

ECUPirate · 05-22-2002, 09:14 PM

well, some parts of it are OK, but I made the mistake of posting in the General Mayhem forum... those guys are dicks.

Brians256 · 05-22-2002, 09:31 PM

They are not all idiots, but there are a large population of them in the General Mayhem section. The low SNR is what moved me away from the HardOCP crowd. Still, there are some smart people there. It's just much harder to find them than here.

Haddy · 05-22-2002, 10:26 PM

alot of ex [h] people here.....(im one of em)......its moronic to have a forum that has people that bash newbs that ask a question....we where all newbs at one time.....

ksw · 05-23-2002, 01:22 AM

acctually. i think this forum, is the ONLY forum tat is REALLY serious on the net.
oh well maybe some small forums like SWOC (uh.... SWedish elite OverClocker....) but there forum is NEVEr online.

ECUPirate · 05-23-2002, 09:47 AM

yeah.. in sections like "Strictly Intel", and some other specific forums, there's some excellent info. Some of those guys are really sharp.
But in the GM forum, there were guys w/ 1000's of posts who were bashing newbs, including me. not very professional....

gogo · 05-23-2002, 11:39 AM

I stayed away from the gm, my impression was it was mostly schoolkids. Mostly I got tired of having to wade through pages of off topic bs to get to the info I was looking for.

DigitalChaos · 05-23-2002, 01:23 PM

all are asked pretty much daily:

hey, there is this girl i like. how do i talk to her?

How do i overclock my Athlon XP?

Should i overclock my XP?

Should i lap my heatsink?

How do i make my computer quiet?

Im new to watercooling, what should i get?

90% of posts are repeats cause NOBODY uses the damn search button.

I do post over there often because you can get some good info added to your post, (usually after sorting through a bunch of flames) and they do have a few nonprofessional threads that are somewhat cool. such as the Domo-kun photochop thread LOL
the [H] just needs to go on a diet and become a lowfat forum without the redundancy.

i guess everyone cant be like procooling

Brad · 05-24-2002, 01:36 AM

wow, you just figured that out?

ECUPirate · 05-25-2002, 01:25 AM

I was not a member of [H] until quite a bit after joining up here...

phreenet · 05-26-2002, 06:45 PM

Whats a [H]ard|Forum?? Is that like easy cheese on stale crackers?

FRAGN'STIEN · 05-26-2002, 11:00 PM

I'm a member of the [H] and I have to say it's nice to come here and ask a serious question and get a helpful answer. If you go the [H] now youll notice Kyle posted a thread in all forums stating anyone flamming will be banned.

Joe · 05-26-2002, 11:05 PM

Yeh but there is much more stupidity abound than just flames there

Jason711 · 06-13-2002, 12:07 AM

i like the [H]Forum ... all except for GenMay, which is "ghey" .. its easy to pick and choose the correct information form the smart guys.

Administrator · 06-13-2002, 07:53 AM

I dunno, saying smart "guys" would imply there is more than one of them there... and I think thats a big over estimate.

bigben2k · 06-13-2002, 08:53 AM

I think that the Hard Forums have some good info, but there are too many people there, too many newbs asking questions being answered by other newbs with "I don't know".

Like Brians256 wrote: high SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio).

Heavy_Equipment · 06-13-2002, 02:22 PM

Like ksw said...not a serious forum.

I like it when you see a guy ask what he should use in his watercooling set-up, then six months later, you see the same guy asking what he should use in his water cooling set-up.

I get the school kid impression in most of the topics, not just General Mayhem.

Not that I'm bashing school kids...cough, cough,**Brad** cough...

Brad · 06-14-2002, 06:15 AM

that horrible chapter in my life with random old wankers calling themselves teachers ended in December last year. BTW, they are stupid too. IT IS ****ING POSSIBLE TO RECORD ON A CD YOU OLD HAG. (I almost got suspended for that

)

Brad · 06-14-2002, 06:24 AM

hmmm maybe I'm in a bad mood after seeing that cpufx/och new pump thread.

in case you haven't realised though, I rank teachers at the bottom of the world. Even below och

ipkonfig however is rapidly sinking

Cyco-Dude · 06-15-2002, 09:13 AM

i guess you have crappy teachers lol.

the hardforum is a good database to search thru, but not actually post in lol. you can always find good info if you just use the search feature; it works wonders.

Techguy · 06-15-2002, 09:31 PM

there are 2 goodthigs about the [H], it has a larger member base, so when you ask a real Q in one of the non GM forums, you usually get a desent rosponse fairly quickly. (bout 75-80% of the time I'd say)

The other is I met decodeddesil there and he showed me pro cooling!

(and I then learned tons about watercooling)

Heavy_Equipment · 06-18-2002, 01:36 AM

Ok, now I'm pissed.

I got called a dick in a thread, and they closed it while I was writing my reply. lol

Now I'll have to add "Regards, Dick" to the bottom of all my [H] posts.

pHaestus · 06-18-2002, 08:37 AM

There are some people in Cool Cases at Hardforum with a TON of smarts on circuits and electronics. For example, I have gotten correct troubleshooting on an IC at like 3am on a Tuesday there.

I don't think that the Hardforums are any different from all the other large forums out there really: the majority of posters are young kids who think post count is proportional to intelligence. You lots of times see someone post a lot in a non-hardware section of a site, get "uber" status, and then they assume they know a lot. I bet there are some members here who have lots of posts in the Random section too. Just the way things work.

My complaint about basically every busy forum is that the Search button is so neglected. At Hardforum, this is compounded by the fact that older useful posts get killed, and that the search button is sometimes DOA.

And in closing, I don't think it is particularly mature to come over here and complain about Hardforums. Send moderators or H|OCP staff e-mails, or sign them up for gay pr0n or something but don't go to other forums complaining.

jtroutma · 06-18-2002, 12:10 PM

Quote:
"And in closing, I don't think it is particularly mature to come over here and complain about Hardforums. Send moderators or H|OCP staff e-mails, or sign them up for gay pr0n or something but don't go to other forums complaining."

pHaestus does have a point........

Heavy_Equipment · 06-18-2002, 01:09 PM

Yeah, I felt kinda stupid after reading:

Quote:

I don't think it is particularly mature to come over here and complain

I was just venting my frustration, but pHaestus is right.

Anyone else want some of my humble pie?

Daredevil · 06-19-2002, 04:49 PM

I read and post on the Hardforums some and I lurk here quite a bit. I think in any forum you have a certain ratio of a-holes to smart, helpful people. When you have a large forum, like the [H], you need to realize there will be a lot more of the a-holes on there then you would find on a forum of this size. That doesn't mean that there aren't a ton of people on there that don't know what they are talking about. You just need to learn to sort through the crap and ignore to idiots. I really don't see how difficult that is.

I have to agree with pHaestus on saying that it is imature to come to this forum and act in the same manner that you are complaining about.

I also agree that people need to search before posting questions, unfortunately at this moment(and has been this way for a while now) the search function on the [H] is not functional.

Anyway, this post is much longer than I intended, but I had to explain what I thought.

05-22-2002, 09:14 PM	#1
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	[H]ard forum sux nutz. well, some parts of it are OK, but I made the mistake of posting in the General Mayhem forum... those guys are dicks. __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

05-23-2002, 01:22 AM	#4
ksw Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SWEDEN(cold...) Posts: 195	acctually. i think this forum, is the ONLY forum tat is REALLY serious on the net. oh well maybe some small forums like SWOC (uh.... SWedish elite OverClocker....) but there forum is NEVEr online. __________________ www.webraced.com <- addicted as hell /me is!

05-23-2002, 09:47 AM	#5
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	yeah.. in sections like "Strictly Intel", and some other specific forums, there's some excellent info. Some of those guys are really sharp. But in the GM forum, there were guys w/ 1000's of posts who were bashing newbs, including me. not very professional.... __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

05-23-2002, 11:39 AM	#6
gogo Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: AK Posts: 246	I stayed away from the gm, my impression was it was mostly schoolkids. Mostly I got tired of having to wade through pages of off topic bs to get to the info I was looking for. __________________ Now, with Retsyn®

05-24-2002, 01:36 AM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	wow, you just figured that out? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-22-2002, 09:31 PM	#2
Brians256 Pro/Staff Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 1,439	They are not all idiots, but there are a large population of them in the General Mayhem section. The low SNR is what moved me away from the HardOCP crowd. Still, there are some smart people there. It's just much harder to find them than here.

05-22-2002, 10:26 PM	#3
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	alot of ex [h] people here.....(im one of em)......its moronic to have a forum that has people that bash newbs that ask a question....we where all newbs at one time.....

05-23-2002, 01:23 PM	#7
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	all are asked pretty much daily: hey, there is this girl i like. how do i talk to her? How do i overclock my Athlon XP? Should i overclock my XP? Should i lap my heatsink? How do i make my computer quiet? Im new to watercooling, what should i get? 90% of posts are repeats cause NOBODY uses the damn search button. I do post over there often because you can get some good info added to your post, (usually after sorting through a bunch of flames) and they do have a few nonprofessional threads that are somewhat cool. such as the Domo-kun photochop thread LOL the [H] just needs to go on a diet and become a lowfat forum without the redundancy. i guess everyone cant be like procooling

05-25-2002, 01:25 AM	#9
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	I was not a member of [H] until quite a bit after joining up here... __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

05-26-2002, 06:45 PM	#10
phreenet Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Gloucester, Virginia Posts: 356	Whats a [H]ard\|Forum?? Is that like easy cheese on stale crackers? __________________ Dual Pentium!!! 933@1107 Liquid Cooled.

05-26-2002, 11:00 PM	#11
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	I'm a member of the [H] and I have to say it's nice to come here and ask a serious question and get a helpful answer. If you go the [H] now youll notice Kyle posted a thread in all forums stating anyone flamming will be banned. __________________ This space for rent

05-26-2002, 11:05 PM	#12
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Yeh but there is much more stupidity abound than just flames there __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

06-13-2002, 12:07 AM	#13
Jason711 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 59	i like the [H]Forum ... all except for GenMay, which is "ghey" .. its easy to pick and choose the correct information form the smart guys.

06-13-2002, 07:53 AM	#14
Administrator The Man Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 65,544	I dunno, saying smart "guys" would imply there is more than one of them there... and I think thats a big over estimate.

06-13-2002, 08:53 AM	#15
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I think that the Hard Forums have some good info, but there are too many people there, too many newbs asking questions being answered by other newbs with "I don't know". Like Brians256 wrote: high SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio). __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-13-2002, 02:22 PM	#16
Heavy_Equipment Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Posts: 282	Like ksw said...not a serious forum. I like it when you see a guy ask what he should use in his watercooling set-up, then six months later, you see the same guy asking what he should use in his water cooling set-up. I get the school kid impression in most of the topics, not just General Mayhem. Not that I'm bashing school kids...cough, cough,Brad cough...

06-14-2002, 06:15 AM	#17
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	that horrible chapter in my life with random old wankers calling themselves teachers ended in December last year. BTW, they are stupid too. IT IS ****ING POSSIBLE TO RECORD ON A CD YOU OLD HAG. (I almost got suspended for that ) __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

06-14-2002, 06:24 AM	#18
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	hmmm maybe I'm in a bad mood after seeing that cpufx/och new pump thread. in case you haven't realised though, I rank teachers at the bottom of the world. Even below och ipkonfig however is rapidly sinking __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

06-15-2002, 09:13 AM	#19
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	i guess you have crappy teachers lol. the hardforum is a good database to search thru, but not actually post in lol. you can always find good info if you just use the search feature; it works wonders.

06-15-2002, 09:31 PM	#20
Techguy Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 130	there are 2 goodthigs about the [H], it has a larger member base, so when you ask a real Q in one of the non GM forums, you usually get a desent rosponse fairly quickly. (bout 75-80% of the time I'd say) The other is I met decodeddesil there and he showed me pro cooling! (and I then learned tons about watercooling) __________________ My only PC is a PII 333 with 256MB RAM a GeForce2 MX 200, and 30GB's of 7,200rpm ATA/66 goodness. And yes, I know it sucks.

06-18-2002, 01:36 AM	#21
Heavy_Equipment Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Posts: 282	Ok, now I'm pissed. I got called a dick in a thread, and they closed it while I was writing my reply. lol Now I'll have to add "Regards, Dick" to the bottom of all my [H] posts.

06-18-2002, 08:37 AM	#22
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	electronics knowledge... There are some people in Cool Cases at Hardforum with a TON of smarts on circuits and electronics. For example, I have gotten correct troubleshooting on an IC at like 3am on a Tuesday there. I don't think that the Hardforums are any different from all the other large forums out there really: the majority of posters are young kids who think post count is proportional to intelligence. You lots of times see someone post a lot in a non-hardware section of a site, get "uber" status, and then they assume they know a lot. I bet there are some members here who have lots of posts in the Random section too. Just the way things work. My complaint about basically every busy forum is that the Search button is so neglected. At Hardforum, this is compounded by the fact that older useful posts get killed, and that the search button is sometimes DOA. And in closing, I don't think it is particularly mature to come over here and complain about Hardforums. Send moderators or H\|OCP staff e-mails, or sign them up for gay pr0n or something but don't go to other forums complaining.

06-18-2002, 12:10 PM	#23
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Quote: "And in closing, I don't think it is particularly mature to come over here and complain about Hardforums. Send moderators or H\|OCP staff e-mails, or sign them up for gay pr0n or something but don't go to other forums complaining." pHaestus does have a point........ __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-19-2002, 04:49 PM	#25
Daredevil Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3	I read and post on the Hardforums some and I lurk here quite a bit. I think in any forum you have a certain ratio of a-holes to smart, helpful people. When you have a large forum, like the [H], you need to realize there will be a lot more of the a-holes on there then you would find on a forum of this size. That doesn't mean that there aren't a ton of people on there that don't know what they are talking about. You just need to learn to sort through the crap and ignore to idiots. I really don't see how difficult that is. I have to agree with pHaestus on saying that it is imature to come to this forum and act in the same manner that you are complaining about. I also agree that people need to search before posting questions, unfortunately at this moment(and has been this way for a while now) the search function on the [H] is not functional. Anyway, this post is much longer than I intended, but I had to explain what I thought.

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