Design a own waterblock

PlawsWorth · 08-11-2002, 02:22 PM

A friend of mine that has company that design small metal stuff has promised me to make a waterblock to me if I just give him some blueprints of how big it should be, weight, etc. Since im lack in the knowledge of design a own block I need some help. So is there any niceguys here that has some nice blueprints? //CJ

Misantrophia · 08-11-2002, 02:40 PM

P3, P4, Athlon, GF4?

PlawsWorth · 08-11-2002, 02:50 PM

Athlon, Athlon Thunderbird 1,4GHz to be more exact. I use a chieftec black super miditower, can't remember the modell nr...

jaydee · 08-11-2002, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Athlon, Athlon Thunderbird 1,4GHz to be more exact. I use a chieftec black super miditower, can't remember the modell nr...

As for the block design I like to stick with 3" long, 2" wide, and 1/2"+ thick (want that in mm's? to bad

) . That will leave enough room to use the 4 holes on a current AMD mobo. As for the channe(s) on the iside that will have to be you doing. I doubt to many people will give up their plans for someone else to make. Look around at a few other blocks out there and create your own design. Good Luck!

Brad · 08-12-2002, 03:40 AM

75mm x 50mm x 12.5mm :P

maskedgeek · 08-12-2002, 08:33 AM

what does he have for machining equipment? i bet i could wip up quite a crazy awesome design for you

PlawsWorth · 08-12-2002, 12:05 PM

Well without having to type a whole lot of terms and stuff I can tell you that he got about everything machine you need to be able to design small metal/plastic stuff. So there is almost nothing he can't do. So Just wip that design up and I he can make one.

koslov · 08-12-2002, 03:01 PM

Here's just an idea you can modify/copy, but if it turns out good, you have to send me one.

You would have (2) 1/2" inlets on the sides and a 5/8" outlet in the middle. Base would probably have to be pretty thin, like 3mm, since I tried to optimize the design for high flow. I was thinking perhaps 50mm by 80mm, I know it isn't proportioned right in the pic, but I'm sure you can adjust it. Channel 7mm deep with a 4mm Lucite top. Gotta go c-thru.

Your probably going to need to design your WB in CAD, then convert to a CNC prog.

If you can't do that, your best bet would be to license someone's CAD design.

PlawsWorth · 08-12-2002, 03:04 PM

If I design the block in cad I can just give him cd with the cad file and he can use that file to program the machine to make the thing. But since I have never used any cad program that's a bit hard.

maskedgeek · 08-12-2002, 06:06 PM

could you get me a block milled? i need another one milled and i dont have acess to the equip... id let you mill one for yourself also...

jaydee · 08-12-2002, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by koslov
Here's just an idea you can modify/copy, but if it turns out good, you have to send me one.

You would have (2) 1/2" inlets on the sides and a 5/8" outlet in the middle. Base would probably have to be pretty thin, like 3mm, since I tried to optimize the design for high flow. I was thinking perhaps 50mm by 80mm, I know it isn't proportioned right in the pic, but I'm sure you can adjust it. Channel 7mm deep with a 4mm Lucite top. Gotta go c-thru.

Your probably going to need to design your WB in CAD, then convert to a CNC prog.

If you can't do that, your best bet would be to license someone's CAD design.

This is very close to one of my designs I have been holding back. Yop DO NOT want 2 inlets on the side!!! You want the inlet in the middle and 2 smaller outlets on the side!!! One big intel in the middle right over the core of the CPU keeps the freashly cooled water right in the middle to keep the core cooler. Earie how close this is to my design.

koslov · 08-12-2002, 09:08 PM

Yeah, that would probably be the best way to do it. You definitely have to send me some pics when you get that thing milled.

I like this design because it looks like it would hardly slow flow at all. It's also very visually appealing. BTW, I made that in MS Paint at 3AM.

jaydee · 08-12-2002, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by koslov
Yeah, that would probably be the best way to do it. You definitely have to send me some pics when you get that thing milled.

I like this design because it looks like it would hardly slow flow at all. It's also very visually appealing. BTW, I made that in MS Paint at 3AM.

I am not going to show the final version of the block yet as it kicks ass and I am not yet sure if I will be selling it or not, but here is the first version I did: http://www.custom-cooling.com/aluminum4.html

It did so well after I added that nasty looking middle inlet I had to improve upon it.

V12|V12 · 08-13-2002, 01:59 PM

I'm thinking for base-plate thickness, you'd be set with something in the medium thickness range... say 3mm min and no more than 8mm... Depends on the flow rate that you're system allows. A nice thick base will act as a buffer for temp spikes or any sudden changes, which should occur if you have a stabil system etc... I'd post my block design, but I wanna post it as a new post so I can get a (hopefully) but of responses/ideas, so see my new block design post... okay, hell, I'll post it here and post a new one etc...

PS- PICK ME!!! lol

maskedgeek · 08-13-2002, 03:21 PM

dude, i started on a heatercore block, then i realized that i dont have the correct material and that i would have to mirror it onto another peice and have a thin base.. but mine actually looks like a heatercore without the fins... its pretty cool.. ill do it when i get the correct material..

Puzzdre · 08-13-2002, 04:42 PM

Try this:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips793/

I made myself one according to those plans (slightly different)...
It works good enough...

bigben2k · 08-13-2002, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Puzzdre
Try this:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips793/

I made myself one according to those plans (slightly different)...
It works good enough...

Not bad... It looks like his design evolved from a labyrinth type, to a spiral (if you look closely!).

Hey, at least you can build it yourself!

jaydee · 08-13-2002, 07:58 PM

Good stuff. I strarted out with a hand drill and moved up to my little CNC mill. ANything you can do yourself is good IMO no matter how bad it turns out. At least you are trying and learning!

Puzzdre · 08-14-2002, 04:02 AM

If this would be any help...
block size is 50 x 50 x 10 mm, its hard to find thicker copper block here in Croatia (still searching ...)
The thickness of the block allowed me to drill it with 6 - 6.5 mm bit only, so the block is ( I think) flow restrictive and it has too many sharp turns, but it performes good enough for me (all I wanted is quieter PC, and after glacial 2400 hs/fan, almost anything would be quieter...

The rig is AthlonXP 1800+ @ 1666 MHz (11.5 x 145), Task millenium midi tower, Micro jet 1000 pump, heater core from Lancia prisma, Sunon 120 mm @ 7V ... 32 C idle, 37 full load... and quiet enough...
just looking for quieter fan...but can't find anything else but Sunon here...

Big & Jay... thanx

Puzzdre · 08-14-2002, 05:45 AM

oooops, forgot to say, temps are at room temperature at 27 - 28 C... hot summer this year....

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by koslov
Here's just an idea you can modify/copy, but if it turns out good, you have to send me one.

You would have (2) 1/2" inlets on the sides and a 5/8" outlet in the middle. Base would probably have to be pretty thin, like 3mm, since I tried to optimize the design for high flow. I was thinking perhaps 50mm by 80mm, I know it isn't proportioned right in the pic, but I'm sure you can adjust it. Channel 7mm deep with a 4mm Lucite top. Gotta go c-thru.

Your probably going to need to design your WB in CAD, then convert to a CNC prog.

If you can't do that, your best bet would be to license someone's CAD design.

If you give me a little more (specific) info, I can probably create a CAD model for this in a day or two. I can also create cutter path for it given some basic parameters. Anyone interested?

Bob

PlawsWorth · 08-14-2002, 08:17 AM

I got a design of my own that im trying out, would it be possible to mail it to you and have in redone in cad?

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 12:29 PM

Well, I whipped up this design in SolidWorks. It may bear some strange resemblance to a previously posted idea. Purely a coincidence

Bob

V12|V12 · 08-14-2002, 04:31 PM

Well HOT DAMN! That looks great... Where can I get that program that you used to make that model? Anychance you could make me up a pic using the block idea that I posted earlier? There's NOT WAY in hell, MS-Paint is going to lend me that kind of depth and shadowing! LOL Thanks.... GOod luck

utabintarbo · 08-14-2002, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by V12|V12
Well HOT DAMN! That looks great... Where can I get that program that you used to make that model? Anychance you could make me up a pic using the block idea that I posted earlier? There's NOT WAY in hell, MS-Paint is going to lend me that kind of depth and shadowing! LOL Thanks.... GOod luck

I'll see what I can do. Perhaps tomorrow or Friday.

Bob

08-11-2002, 02:22 PM	#1
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	Design a own waterblock A friend of mine that has company that design small metal stuff has promised me to make a waterblock to me if I just give him some blueprints of how big it should be, weight, etc. Since im lack in the knowledge of design a own block I need some help. So is there any niceguys here that has some nice blueprints? //CJ

08-11-2002, 02:50 PM	#3
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	specs. Athlon, Athlon Thunderbird 1,4GHz to be more exact. I use a chieftec black super miditower, can't remember the modell nr...

08-12-2002, 03:40 AM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	75mm x 50mm x 12.5mm :P __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

08-12-2002, 12:05 PM	#7
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	eq. Well without having to type a whole lot of terms and stuff I can tell you that he got about everything machine you need to be able to design small metal/plastic stuff. So there is almost nothing he can't do. So Just wip that design up and I he can make one.

08-12-2002, 03:04 PM	#9
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	cad If I design the block in cad I can just give him cd with the cad file and he can use that file to program the machine to make the thing. But since I have never used any cad program that's a bit hard.

08-11-2002, 02:40 PM	#2
Misantrophia Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6	P3, P4, Athlon, GF4?

08-12-2002, 08:33 AM	#6
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	what does he have for machining equipment? i bet i could wip up quite a crazy awesome design for you

08-12-2002, 03:01 PM	#8
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	Here's just an idea you can modify/copy, but if it turns out good, you have to send me one. You would have (2) 1/2" inlets on the sides and a 5/8" outlet in the middle. Base would probably have to be pretty thin, like 3mm, since I tried to optimize the design for high flow. I was thinking perhaps 50mm by 80mm, I know it isn't proportioned right in the pic, but I'm sure you can adjust it. Channel 7mm deep with a 4mm Lucite top. Gotta go c-thru. Your probably going to need to design your WB in CAD, then convert to a CNC prog. If you can't do that, your best bet would be to license someone's CAD design.

08-12-2002, 06:06 PM	#10
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	could you get me a block milled? i need another one milled and i dont have acess to the equip... id let you mill one for yourself also...

08-12-2002, 09:08 PM	#12
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	Yeah, that would probably be the best way to do it. You definitely have to send me some pics when you get that thing milled. I like this design because it looks like it would hardly slow flow at all. It's also very visually appealing. BTW, I made that in MS Paint at 3AM.

08-13-2002, 03:21 PM	#15
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	dude, i started on a heatercore block, then i realized that i dont have the correct material and that i would have to mirror it onto another peice and have a thin base.. but mine actually looks like a heatercore without the fins... its pretty cool.. ill do it when i get the correct material..

08-13-2002, 04:42 PM	#16
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Try this: http://www.overclockers.com/tips793/ I made myself one according to those plans (slightly different)... It works good enough... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

08-13-2002, 07:58 PM	#18
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Good stuff. I strarted out with a hand drill and moved up to my little CNC mill. ANything you can do yourself is good IMO no matter how bad it turns out. At least you are trying and learning!

08-14-2002, 05:45 AM	#20
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	oooops, forgot to say, temps are at room temperature at 27 - 28 C... hot summer this year.... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

08-14-2002, 08:17 AM	#22
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	yes I got a design of my own that im trying out, would it be possible to mail it to you and have in redone in cad?

08-14-2002, 04:31 PM	#24
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	Well HOT DAMN! That looks great... Where can I get that program that you used to make that model? Anychance you could make me up a pic using the block idea that I posted earlier? There's NOT WAY in hell, MS-Paint is going to lend me that kind of depth and shadowing! LOL Thanks.... GOod luck __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

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