My watercooling setup.

[Solarian League]

updated the spec, took out the pelts for now probably add too much problems for a first time watercooling setup but do keep in mind i would like to keep upgradablity in mind so i could just stick a pelt in and be good to go without needing to buy 2000 new stuff u know what i mean.


cpu waterblock
I'm looking for a top notch performer without having to do much setup, preferly an 1/2 inch hose. so far this is what i got.

MCW5000 by swiftech
TC-4 Poly Topped Block (AMD, P-4)

bingo i think i found my waterblock

MAZE4-1

3" x 2.45" x 5/8" + Peltier Height + 3/8" Cold Plate

Use with up to 50mm x 50mm Peltier

so i can stick my pelter in and do a little bit of consderation prevantion and i would be good, no?

Video card waterblock
same requirement as the cpu waterblock

mcw50 by swiftech

onice again i think i found a good one

MAZE4GPU-1

with pelter so i can stick my pelter in do a bit of consderation prevation and i will be good.

pump
i'm not sure about the pump but i think this one looks nice

nice pump i think about 480 some gallon per hour and its CHEAP.

is that one a good pump?

radator

now this is where i'm having trouble with i'm not quite sure which radator would be a good one?

just grab any good ol heatcore from a car and i'm good to go?? but it probably will have to support 2 pelts and maybe 3 waterblock.

northbridge

not sure because have you guys seen the Abit IC7-G board, notice how the fan is holded onto the northbridge chip with that wierd assembly thing so i'm not sure how i would hook up an waterblock to it plus wouldn't it also slow down the flow for not much benefit?

ram sink

TweakMonster RAMsinks - Perfect for the Geforce4 and Radeon Video Cards

stick em on the video card ram with AS3 is that correct? then i can yake em off by leting em warm up then gently twist em off or so?

miscellanous items
1/2 inch worm clamps, and alots of them
some hose, how about these?

Tygon TUBING
1/2" ID 3/4" OD
$2.90/ft

then what else do i need.

some 120mm fan for the radator unit, and probably an

Y joint to spilt the flow between the video card and the cpu or should i run them paraell with each other aka radator to cpu to video card to resvor to pump to radator type of setup?

anything else i'm missing

resveror
i really like the one that Project Double Header 3 used they were great, but i probably can't do that, and i don't like the bay resvor so i'm thinking of constructing my own with regular old tuber ware, then put 3 hole in it, one hole on top of the tuberware lid which is a large hole which i will drill in top of the case and put an sort of cap there, its so i can fill up the system easely or drain it by just turning the whole case upside down.

then on the bottom of the tuberware is going to be two 1/2" fitting for the hose.

glue or gloop or whatever

now this i got no clue and i probably will need quite a few for the tuberware. and i'll also need some way to attach the tuberware to top of the case and keep the whole thing sealed and tight so it won't burst open and drench my cpu and stuff.

sealant or consderation prevation

need some stuff to stop consderation from covering all my good stuff heh.

[#Rotor]

This is how...

[Solarian League]

that is how you cool ur water to slugish, that's cool, but i can't do it here the whole system has to be contained all inside the computer cos i will have next to no room at college heh.

well i guess onice i get an decent apartment and a job i'll give some of the "extremer" ideas an shot


anyway i still need comment on the system setup such as pelts stuff heh

[Solarian League]

i think i got most everything downpat for my watersystem but i still need options and i still need some help on the radator and pelt part and few other part but for most part i think the system is complete, just need to assembly the parts then i'm ready to rumble


so yo i need help on the last few loose ends

[bigben2k]

No, you've got it. Get a DD Maze X-1, and you'll have the pelt. Just make sure you apply the necessary condensation prevention, and don't do it wrong either

As for the heatercore, yes, a car's heatercore is best: get the biggest one you can fit in your case. Mine's Fedco# 2-304, and is about 8" x 6" x 1 5/8". I'll be using a car's blower, to vent air through it (running at 7 volt, for silence). It'll be some work to mount, but it will work exceptionally well.

[Solarian League]

My tower is an lian-li 75 and i probably will be frying the 2x 80mm fan in the front and cutting a hole for one 120mm for my radator.

i was looking around and i'm wondering how good this one is

radator by d-tek

i probably would end up buying the second shound and running 2 fan on it,

how good would it cool is it completetable with an regular car heatcore or atleast close?

main reason is i will work with a heatcore but i would like an setup that i can install easely and so on mainly so i will have a easier time geting my parents to approval of the setup.


then on the consderation prevation i would need some neopolyne foam for inside the block and round it? then some sort of gress to put on the dice, and some sort of sillicon to put around the area or something correct? can you direct me to somewhere where i can buy these products. thanks.

now onto the pelts, i probably will use an 226watt potted pelt with its own decaded maxwell power unit, then i probably will use an 80watt pelt mainly so i won't have to buy a second power supply unit, and hook it up to my 550watt antec psu, the orginal system spec was designed to run and probably oc' pretty good on an 430watt psu with shitload of torando and delta so i think the 550 should be able to handle one 80watt pelt for the video card, then i'm geting maxwell psu for the 226watt pelt for the cpu.

that sounds good? and options on the pump?

so its basiclaly down to this

80watt pelt on video card
266watt on cpu
aircooling the northbridge
226watt pelt powersupply
pump
an tuperware resvor
radator/heatcore
some hose
wormscrew clamp

[bigben2k]

You might reconsider, and start with a simple watercooling loop, then upgrade later to pelts: it looks like you need to gather more info.

You can't simply add up the watts, to size a power supply: you also have to consider the voltage at which you'll be running these pelts. Do you really want to run that 226W pelt with a Meanwell PSU?

Neoprene isn't hard to find: closed cell neoprene is what you need, and I thought DD still carried it, no?

Add Conformal coating: I just can't say that enough.

[Solarian League]

Newest spec so far

cpu waterblock

1) MCW5000
2) TC-4 Poly Topped Block (AMD, P-4)
3) maze4
4) maze4-1 <-- correct me if i'm wrong but can't i remove coldplate and store it else where untill i decide to use a pelt setup?

GPU waterblock

1) MCW50
2) maze4GPU
3) maze4GPU-1 <-- correct me if i'm wrong but can't i do the same thing here as with the maze 4-1?

pump

this pump looks nice

nice pump

its an 400 some gallon per hour pump for about $30 is it a good buy or would i be better off geting one of those eheim pump?

resvor
I don't know what i want for a resvor, just how good are these

"5 1/4" Bay Reservoir" now i don't want to stick it in my bay so could i optionaly do this.

i could get several steel strap and bolt the sucker to the top of my case, then drill a little hole where u fill up the resvor from, put a sort of pipe out and then put an sort of cap on that and i would be good to go, as far as bleeding and refilling etc.

radator

is this one any good radator by D-Tek

i probably will buy another shound and attach another 120mm fan to it, anyway there is a 6 harddrive bay on bottom of case with 2x 80mm that i'm going to rip out and cut in a good size hole to stick in an 120mm fan, going to stick the resvor there then the pump probably will be along the side of the case cos its a long one and i only need 1 silot for PCI card which is a tv tuner, and one AGP silot for my video card that's all i need right now anyway.

northbridge cooling
probably will leave it as aircooling because those two decent CFM 120mm fan should bring in enough air to cool off the northbridge

harddrive cooling
plus i don't know i might get harddrive cooler for my harddrive, probably will just stick all 4 in my 5.25 bay and take the 4 little pannel in front drill an 120mm and stick an 120mm fan in for my harddrive cooling or something


hose and other misc items
Tygon TUBING
1/2" ID 3/4" OD
$2.90/ft

1/2 inch worm clamps, and alots of them

three to four 120mm fan, two for radator and two for harddrive and probably blowhole on top?

three to four 120mm fan grid protector

some sort of glue and gloop to seal up my resvor and stuff what is a good brand.

some sort of RAM heatsink for the video card.

am i missing anything?

then for the GPU and CPU keeping in mind furture expansion, will the radator be good enough to handle two pelts?

and also i'm probalby going to go with the maze4, now for the maze4-1 can i just remove the coldplate and i will be able to use it like an regular maze4?

then for the resvor will my idea of bolting the sucker to top of the case work, i'm thinking those strips of steel that you use to secure things or something i can't rember what you call em but just have 2 straps of em on the long side then 2-3 on the short side and bolt that to top of the case tightly so that thing won't be going no where.

keeping in mind for furture expansion with pelts i'm thinking of this setup.

somewhere between the radator and the two waterblock is a Y joint where the cpu water is spit off to the cpu, and the GPU water is spit off to the GPU then on the return line is another Y where they both merge back together would that work? or would i be better off with a serial setup where it goes to cpu then GPU then back to the resvor/pump/radator?


actualy as a matter of fact i might stay with my Pelter cooling idea, i found some VERY good site explaining how to set them up and ive finally found some good document on pelter

[Solarian League]

been doing some researching around and been exploring options.

anyway i think i managed to get my dad to atleast partly support me on my watercooling idea but i don't know if he will support me on the pelter idea, so i'm thinking of building an entire watersystem just for watercooling.

then on bottom of the document is an optional pelter setup.

anyway i need to know what is the best non pelter waterblock for the video card and cpu, i keep on hearing something about an guy named C something but i can't find where his waterblocks are or something, anyway i want the best for an non pelter setup.

for a pelter setup probably will go with a maze4-1 type of thing.





anyway i need few answers.

1) best non pelter block for GPU and CPU?

2) the radator i have picked so far is a good one?

3) i have no clue about the reservoir thing i am leaning toward an homebult one with shitload of epoxy all over the place, anyway whatever i pick i will want to attach it to the top of the case so what's the best way to do it?

4)what sort of fittings does the 5 inch bay resveror comes with if its pastic i will rip em out and put in good ol proper brass fittings

5) also can i take that bay resvior and glue it to top of the case and drill a hole though the top of the case so i can access the little screw thing to fill the sucker up would that work? what would be a good glue?

heh i have lots of questions sorry.

[bigben2k]

Originally posted by Solarian League
...anyway i need few answers.

1) best non pelter block for GPU and CPU?

2) the radator i have picked so far is a good one?

3) i have no clue about the reservoir thing i am leaning toward an homebult one with shitload of epoxy all over the place, anyway whatever i pick i will want to attach it to the top of the case so what's the best way to do it?

4)what sort of fittings does the 5 inch bay resveror comes with if its pastic i will rip em out and put in good ol proper brass fittings

5) also can i take that bay resvior and glue it to top of the case and drill a hole though the top of the case so i can access the little screw thing to fill the sucker up would that work? what would be a good glue?

#1: Cathar's White Water (Cathar's Cascade isn't quite out yet).

#2: That's fine.

#3: Here's one: http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...hlight=airtrap

#4: (skip)

#5: I'd go with Goop, lots of it. You could JB weld a steel strap.

[Solarian League]

Originally posted by bigben2k
#1: Cathar's White Water (Cathar's Cascade isn't quite out yet).

2-5 that's good.

1) i ditto WHERE to get it, i knew that cathar's something was good but i couldn't figure out where to get it from.

anyway options on the pump should i go with that pump i got in the spec or go with a eheam pump?

[bigben2k]

I've got the Johnson pump (as you know ), and it's a tad noisy. The Eheim however is overpriced for the pumping capability, which is no match for the Johnson one. If you've followed the Johnson pump thread, then you know that it's a good 12v pump, and easy to adapt and run.

As for Cathar's block, you'll find ordering info in the "Extreme Cooling" forum of OCAU: that's the origin of it.

[Solarian League]

Originally posted by bigben2k
I've got the Johnson pump (as you know ), and it's a tad noisy. The Eheim however is overpriced for the pumping capability, which is no match for the Johnson one. If you've followed the Johnson pump thread, then you know that it's a good 12v pump, and easy to adapt and run.

As for Cathar's block, you'll find ordering info in the "Extreme Cooling" forum of OCAU: that's the origin of it.

edit, found the OCAU

anyway from the sounds of it i'm pretty much set to go, i'm going to dump the pelter idea because they will probably add too much problems and complexities to my project so... theyre out of here for now

anyway only thing missing is a good GPU block, i'm thinking of the daggerden maze4GPU or the mcw50 block for the GPU card.

i think everything else on the list is mostly hammered down pretty good i'm probably going to construct my own resveoir out of PVC pipes or abandoned tuberware, migh not be as pretty but i don't like the 5.25 bay i just don't like it... i ditto why.