Hack a Snap Sever 1000? - Page 19

re3dyb0y · 02-07-2005, 03:04 AM

Ive just made some discoveries. If there is one drive in a 2 drive machine, whichever is plugged into ide1 (not 2) is the primary drive, and you are allowed to install java extensions onto this. If not you can't. - Talk about Arkward.!!!

re3dyb0y · 02-08-2005, 03:03 AM

This is a request to people in the uk.

Has anyone got a dead beyond repair snap server that i could have the ide cables from? As one of mine has died/stopped working and i dont want to use a 45cm cable.

Thanks

Sam

re3dyb0y · 02-08-2005, 03:05 AM

http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/tux...ult.asp?page=1 is an alternative NAS, build it yourself for a matter of fact...

kozel · 02-08-2005, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tromans

It didn't for me, I tried with an 80 gig and the system light flashes once a second, and the disk light flashes twice a second, link light stays solid, and the net flashes every few seconds. Does anyone else have any ideas?

Thanks :shrug:

are you sure your drive is NOT an ata-133? I tried the maxtor (there are others) and got pretty much that same result. I've heard others using Samsung drives but if the drive is ata-133, there is a utility to run that steps the drive down to ata-100. I used the WD which is ata100 out of the box and it was fine.

tromans · 02-08-2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozel

are you sure your drive is NOT an ata-133? I tried the maxtor (there are others) and got pretty much that same result. I've heard others using Samsung drives but if the drive is ata-133, there is a utility to run that steps the drive down to ata-100. I used the WD which is ata100 out of the box and it was fine.

Since I read that everyone was having trouble useing maxtor, all I have tried was WD

re3dyb0y · 02-08-2005, 08:20 AM

I have just reread the posts and realised you weren't talking to me!! However i have a maxtor and that works fine. Dunno if tis is ATA-133

re3dyb0y · 02-09-2005, 06:17 AM

Or does anyone know where i can buy a 2 plugged short ide cable?

kozel · 02-09-2005, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poogles_uk

Or does anyone know where i can buy a 2 plugged short ide cable?

You can always try making a cable. Radio shack may have the parts and a tool to crimp the connectors on. I used to make my own 50 pin SCSI flat cables, it's not that difficult. If R/S doesn't have it, I'm sure google will find a source.

kozel · 02-09-2005, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tromans

Since I read that everyone was having trouble useing maxtor, all I have tried was WD

Are you sure the drive is jumpered as the original was (master or Cable Select)? Mine is set as Master but I've heard others were set CS. And again, I used Dolly to clone the drive.

re3dyb0y · 02-09-2005, 07:05 AM

Cool, ill have to look for a uk supplier then.

jgantes · 02-10-2005, 05:53 PM

I really needed to change the FTP port on my snap server. I know you can change the HTTP port in the DEBUG window, but I don't see anything on FTP.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

re3dyb0y · 02-11-2005, 03:03 PM

Haven't noticed ought, will have a look for you

re3dyb0y · 02-11-2005, 03:36 PM

I have 2 ata 133 maxtor 80gb drives with C/S with no problems. I just put a 2nd drive in, and it works fine

re3dyb0y · 02-11-2005, 03:47 PM

The simplest way to change the port will be to use a 3rd party java ftp client, except it nees porting. Int20H and my self are looking into it. There is someone who has one, but doesn't want to release his work as it took ages. Its up to him whether he releases it.

Some links on the web ive found that confirm that it cant be changed it on the basic one:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/network/119/5/&e=1102
http://www.snapappliance.com/images/...es.html&e=1102
http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cf...%3D1100&e=1102

re3dyb0y · 02-13-2005, 09:02 AM

Just reading the Admin guide, adn it says it uses a variation of the FFS (Fast File System). Which is strange because when i asked Snap Support, i was told it was XFS.

re3dyb0y · 02-13-2005, 09:11 AM

Can i ask people which FTP sites are open for usage?

cringer · 02-17-2005, 07:23 PM

I posted this on another ProForum SNAP thread, but copied it here since there is a larger pool of participants in this thread.

I, too, would like to upgrade my 4100 to something larger than 4x120GB. However, I think it is unlikely unless someone can make a friend at Quantum / Snap Appliance / Adaptec to
1. learn what is causing the limit, and
2. get a workaround.

Since the Milpitas division is just around the corner from me, I am more than willing to pony up some greenbacks to liquor up an engineer or take him/her to the Kit Kat Club for entertainment.

re3dyb0y · 02-18-2005, 04:30 AM

Go for IT!!

It would really be helpful.

zcx2005 · 02-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Inspired by earlier posts I just successfully upgraded the hdd on my Snap 1000.

FWIW, here's the details.

Model: 1000 series
Software: 3.4.803
Hardware: 3.1.1
BIOS: 2.1.363

Hard Disk: Quantum Fireball lct15
Capacity: 30GB nominal

New Disk: Hitachi 7K250 120GB UDMA100 7200 rpm 8MB cache

Here's the steps I used.

1. Backed up all the data from the Snap.

2. Connected to http://<snap1000>/config and formatted the disk.

3. Connected Quantum disk as Primary Master and Hitachi disk as Primary Slave. Used an 80 wire IDE cable connected to built in UDMA100 controller on Abit VP6 motherboard.

4. Booted Knoppix 3.7 from DVD-ROM drive.

5. From a terminal window

$ dmesg | grep hd

reports...
hda: QUANTUM etc.
hdb: HDS722512VLAT80 (HITACHI)

$ su
# dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1M

reports
28629+1 records in
28629+1 records out
30,020,272,128 bytes transferred in 2161 seconds (36 minutes)

Why the 1M block size for the dd command?
Earlier posts reported success with this!

Why dd the whole of the disk?
To reproduce all the file system metadata on the new disk.

6. Rejumpered the Hitachi as Master and fitted to Snap.

7. Booted Snap, checked a ping to its IP, and connect to http://<snap1000>/config.

Disk Utilities, View Disk Status showed disk capacity as about 29MB.

8. Connect to http://<snap1000>/config/debug and do

'config devices format 1000 /reinit'

then

'reboot'.

9. On the reboot the new disk formats and is then ready for use.

View Disk Status now shows 115,424 MB free.

10. Kept the old Quantum drive as a backup in case the OS is needed again. I also made a copy of the drive to an old Maxtor 5T040H4 just in case.

Nothing here that hasn't been on this forum before, except that the upgrade works with the Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 120GB drive. The Snap is now a lot faster and quieter, although the speed of data transfers is limited by the network interface. The best I've seen is 2MB/sec.

Thanks to all on this forum who made this upgrade possible.

zcx

webboy · 02-25-2005, 10:23 AM

has anyone sucessfully upgraded a snap4100 with larger than 120gig drives?
I know yvette upgraded a 4000 to 1.2 TB but was/is running os 3.4.805(us).

Will upgrading to OS4 solve the lba48 issue (drives over 137gb). Im at the point where i need to max this box out or start looking for an alternative (buffalo linkstation TB version).
Storing HD video and dvd's takes up massive disc space
TIA!

re3dyb0y · 02-25-2005, 03:49 PM

I could do with being able to image my Snap 2200 drives...

re3dyb0y · 02-26-2005, 06:53 AM

Couple of things:

Replacement of a Fan for a Snap Server 2200. I want to replace the noisy fan, i know what size fan i need, cos i can measure it. But i have a problem as the power connector currently used is a strange one that goes onto the power connectors. Anyone any experience of replacing this.

Dissasembly of the snap os files. I can't renemeber who disassembled them before, but whoever did could they let me know how they did it?

Thanks

Sam

cringer · 02-26-2005, 04:09 PM

Greetings All,
If anyone has a replacement bezel for the SNAP 4100, I would greatly appreciate being able to get / buy it from you.

Likewise, if anyone has a set of the HDD brackets that fit the 4000 / 4100 series, I would like to get / buy those too.

Many thanks.

Peter · 03-07-2005, 07:40 PM

I'm working on solving 137Gb limitation on 4100 snap server.
At this stage I'm collecting informations about hardware.
More specificaly I'm looking for somebody who has knowledge about Intel 82371 PIIX4 PCI Set Chip. We are all aware that this unit is fully capable of utilizing larger drives (over 137GB) I belive that with my knowledge of hardware and a software Guru's knowledge we can simply enable LBA48 support. Look forward to your comments. Please respond to this thread or send me a PM.

Thanks,

TobyW · 03-09-2005, 10:14 AM

Dear All,

I'm somewhat unclear after reading all the old posts, on whether the 1000 can support disks larger than 120Gb. I realise this won't work out of the box, but the implication seems to be that with SnapOS above version 4 then this is ok. Can anyone confirm that they have done this and maybe which drive they used?

There was also some suggestion that the 1100 would work with 120>, but not the plain old 1000...

That would be great!

Toby.

02-10-2005, 05:53 PM	#461
jgantes Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 12	FTP Port change? I really needed to change the FTP port on my snap server. I know you can change the HTTP port in the DEBUG window, but I don't see anything on FTP. Any ideas? Thanks!

02-11-2005, 03:47 PM	#464
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	The simplest way to change the port will be to use a 3rd party java ftp client, except it nees porting. Int20H and my self are looking into it. There is someone who has one, but doesn't want to release his work as it took ages. Its up to him whether he releases it. Some links on the web ive found that confirm that it cant be changed it on the basic one: http://www.guru3d.com/article/network/119/5/&e=1102 http://www.snapappliance.com/images/...es.html&e=1102 http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cf...%3D1100&e=1102 Last edited by re3dyb0y; 02-11-2005 at 03:50 PM. Reason: Extra info

02-17-2005, 07:23 PM	#467
cringer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 9	We need to break the 4100 137GB barrier! I posted this on another ProForum SNAP thread, but copied it here since there is a larger pool of participants in this thread. I, too, would like to upgrade my 4100 to something larger than 4x120GB. However, I think it is unlikely unless someone can make a friend at Quantum / Snap Appliance / Adaptec to 1. learn what is causing the limit, and 2. get a workaround. Since the Milpitas division is just around the corner from me, I am more than willing to pony up some greenbacks to liquor up an engineer or take him/her to the Kit Kat Club for entertainment.

02-18-2005, 04:30 AM	#468
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Go for IT!! It would really be helpful. Last edited by re3dyb0y; 02-19-2005 at 02:13 PM.

02-24-2005, 11:39 AM	#469
zcx2005 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 1	Inspired by earlier posts I just successfully upgraded the hdd on my Snap 1000. FWIW, here's the details. Model: 1000 series Software: 3.4.803 Hardware: 3.1.1 BIOS: 2.1.363 Hard Disk: Quantum Fireball lct15 Capacity: 30GB nominal New Disk: Hitachi 7K250 120GB UDMA100 7200 rpm 8MB cache Here's the steps I used. 1. Backed up all the data from the Snap. 2. Connected to http://<snap1000>/config and formatted the disk. 3. Connected Quantum disk as Primary Master and Hitachi disk as Primary Slave. Used an 80 wire IDE cable connected to built in UDMA100 controller on Abit VP6 motherboard. 4. Booted Knoppix 3.7 from DVD-ROM drive. 5. From a terminal window $ dmesg \| grep hd reports... hda: QUANTUM etc. hdb: HDS722512VLAT80 (HITACHI) $ su # dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1M reports 28629+1 records in 28629+1 records out 30,020,272,128 bytes transferred in 2161 seconds (36 minutes) Why the 1M block size for the dd command? Earlier posts reported success with this! Why dd the whole of the disk? To reproduce all the file system metadata on the new disk. 6. Rejumpered the Hitachi as Master and fitted to Snap. 7. Booted Snap, checked a ping to its IP, and connect to http://<snap1000>/config. Disk Utilities, View Disk Status showed disk capacity as about 29MB. 8. Connect to http://<snap1000>/config/debug and do 'config devices format 1000 /reinit' then 'reboot'. 9. On the reboot the new disk formats and is then ready for use. View Disk Status now shows 115,424 MB free. 10. Kept the old Quantum drive as a backup in case the OS is needed again. I also made a copy of the drive to an old Maxtor 5T040H4 just in case. Nothing here that hasn't been on this forum before, except that the upgrade works with the Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 120GB drive. The Snap is now a lot faster and quieter, although the speed of data transfers is limited by the network interface. The best I've seen is 2MB/sec. Thanks to all on this forum who made this upgrade possible. zcx Last edited by zcx2005; 02-25-2005 at 09:40 AM. Reason: correct an error

02-07-2005, 03:04 AM	#451
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Ive just made some discoveries. If there is one drive in a 2 drive machine, whichever is plugged into ide1 (not 2) is the primary drive, and you are allowed to install java extensions onto this. If not you can't. - Talk about Arkward.!!!

02-08-2005, 03:03 AM	#452
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	This is a request to people in the uk. Has anyone got a dead beyond repair snap server that i could have the ide cables from? As one of mine has died/stopped working and i dont want to use a 45cm cable. Thanks Sam

02-08-2005, 03:05 AM	#453
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/tux...ult.asp?page=1 is an alternative NAS, build it yourself for a matter of fact...

02-08-2005, 08:20 AM	#456
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	I have just reread the posts and realised you weren't talking to me!! However i have a maxtor and that works fine. Dunno if tis is ATA-133

02-09-2005, 06:17 AM	#457
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Or does anyone know where i can buy a 2 plugged short ide cable?

02-09-2005, 07:05 AM	#460
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Cool, ill have to look for a uk supplier then.

02-11-2005, 03:03 PM	#462
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Haven't noticed ought, will have a look for you

02-11-2005, 03:36 PM	#463
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	I have 2 ata 133 maxtor 80gb drives with C/S with no problems. I just put a 2nd drive in, and it works fine

02-13-2005, 09:02 AM	#465
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Just reading the Admin guide, adn it says it uses a variation of the FFS (Fast File System). Which is strange because when i asked Snap Support, i was told it was XFS.

02-13-2005, 09:11 AM	#466
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Can i ask people which FTP sites are open for usage?

02-25-2005, 10:23 AM	#470
webboy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 56	has anyone sucessfully upgraded a snap4100 with larger than 120gig drives? I know yvette upgraded a 4000 to 1.2 TB but was/is running os 3.4.805(us). Will upgrading to OS4 solve the lba48 issue (drives over 137gb). Im at the point where i need to max this box out or start looking for an alternative (buffalo linkstation TB version). Storing HD video and dvd's takes up massive disc space TIA!

02-25-2005, 03:49 PM	#471
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	I could do with being able to image my Snap 2200 drives...

02-26-2005, 06:53 AM	#472
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Couple of things: Replacement of a Fan for a Snap Server 2200. I want to replace the noisy fan, i know what size fan i need, cos i can measure it. But i have a problem as the power connector currently used is a strange one that goes onto the power connectors. Anyone any experience of replacing this. Dissasembly of the snap os files. I can't renemeber who disassembled them before, but whoever did could they let me know how they did it? Thanks Sam

02-26-2005, 04:09 PM	#473
cringer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 9	SNAP 4100 Parts needed (will pay for them) Greetings All, If anyone has a replacement bezel for the SNAP 4100, I would greatly appreciate being able to get / buy it from you. Likewise, if anyone has a set of the HDD brackets that fit the 4000 / 4100 series, I would like to get / buy those too. Many thanks.

03-07-2005, 07:40 PM	#474
Peter Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: usa Posts: 8	Snap Server 4100 LBA48 Intel chipset Question I'm working on solving 137Gb limitation on 4100 snap server. At this stage I'm collecting informations about hardware. More specificaly I'm looking for somebody who has knowledge about Intel 82371 PIIX4 PCI Set Chip. We are all aware that this unit is fully capable of utilizing larger drives (over 137GB) I belive that with my knowledge of hardware and a software Guru's knowledge we can simply enable LBA48 support. Look forward to your comments. Please respond to this thread or send me a PM. Thanks,

03-09-2005, 10:14 AM	#475
TobyW Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2	Clarification on >120 on 1000 Dear All, I'm somewhat unclear after reading all the old posts, on whether the 1000 can support disks larger than 120Gb. I realise this won't work out of the box, but the implication seems to be that with SnapOS above version 4 then this is ok. Can anyone confirm that they have done this and maybe which drive they used? There was also some suggestion that the 1100 would work with 120>, but not the plain old 1000... That would be great! Toby. Last edited by TobyW; 03-09-2005 at 02:16 PM.

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