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Unread 09-22-2004, 11:09 AM   #26
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OK, well I feel like a dummy, too - I'd started out to make the point that davidzo might have wrong data about tubing because he was looking at the wrong manufacturer's web page. Somehow I ended up going on about Speedfits and forgot the original point (duh!).
Anyway, I take it from your comment that they actually are speedfits...?
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Unread 09-22-2004, 11:58 AM   #27
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no intention to flame (calling names ?), but I'm willing to apply some heat

"Swiftech uses hardened PVC Tubes, which are different to those you can get in a simple hardwarestore."

this is INCORRECT, its from a reputable mfgr - but it sure is vinyl

so where does this leave your initial observations ?
if you are familiar with inserts, what is their purpose ?
and ?
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Unread 09-22-2004, 08:23 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by davidzo
legris invented this type of fittingst. But there are thousands of other manufacturers produce fittings similar to this ones
I have no idea who invented this particular type of fitting, but... you think they're all the same? I would guess that even if the basic mechanism is the same there would be differences in material (mostly significant in o-ring and locking teeth), dimensions (how far in a piece of tubing is pushed in, for instance) and in general tolerances.
I am of course willing to defer to your superior information in this area if you know so much about both legris and john guest as to be able to make a "they're exactly the same" statement - but I would expect a bit more to back it up than "I have had more of these in my hands than you have". If you were a plumber, say, and pushed thousands of these on copper pipe, I'm still not sure that would qualify you to make a comparative engineering statement.
Not trying to give you a hard time, but one of the things that makes procooling a great forum is that there are questions raised whenever there's a statement made that either doesn't have enough to back it up - or if it runs contrary to someone's actual real-world experience. (Bill gets the "grumpy" reputation because he has a lot of that experience and sometimes is tired of saying stuff over and over). Anyway, the questioning gives you a better chance of having trustworthy data.
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Unread 09-23-2004, 10:12 AM   #29
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I suspect more second hand BS, else why not substantiate ?
now there is another 'expert' mumbling about the poor rep that JG push-in connectors have "in industry"

well, Swiftech does indeed qualify as "industry"
I did some checking and I was wrong, Swiftech has sold many hundreds of thousands of these connectors
and ?
ONE leak due to a missing o-ring, several due to the failure to use an insert (aka follow instructions)

these are low pressure connectors
5 psi seem like low pressure ?
-> fitness for purpose
BTW, not all gravy, mediocre seal with negative pressure
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