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Unread 08-12-2004, 11:49 AM   #26
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That IBM hdd was under 4 months old :/ A 60 gb 7200rpm notebook drive. I am going to snag another notebook hdd from the computer store today I think so I am not without a work PC for an entire week. JOY
Sorry to hear about the loss I'll have to keep an eye on the 7k60 I dropped in my D800, it's about a year old and has been perfect (lulling me into a false sense of security??? :shrug: )
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Unread 08-12-2004, 12:10 PM   #27
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Raid 5 for me, 'nother hard lesson
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Unread 08-12-2004, 12:45 PM   #28
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Laptop RAID5 isnt exactly easy though

I've got external HDDs I do full backups of all data to, although I'm looking for an intelligent incremental backup system (only copies over things that have changed since the last backup)
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Unread 08-12-2004, 05:27 PM   #29
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That IBM hdd was under 4 months old :/ A 60 gb 7200rpm notebook drive. I am going to snag another notebook hdd from the computer store today I think so I am not without a work PC for an entire week. JOY
That bites. I have been lucky with this laptop. Pushing 3 years and not one problem even with heavy use. I would highly consider returning the laptop (warranty?) as it very well could be a hard drive controller. My brother went through 5 RMA'ed hard drives before figuring out the controller was bad and causing the problems. I have been pondering getting an external hard drive for this laptop just to back stuff up easily being it dosn't have CDR. I have it networked to my desktop at home however and burn backups from there.
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Unread 08-12-2004, 05:55 PM   #30
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I just use the original drive 40Gig 5400 in an external 2.5" firewire enclosure, to bo backups with Norton Ghost. I have had it save me on other systems.
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Unread 08-12-2004, 06:16 PM   #31
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nah the hdd's dead as a doornail. Oh well there will be a new one in by Tuesday I guess and I can spend a day installing windows and applications.
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Unread 08-12-2004, 07:13 PM   #32
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Don't feel too bad, pH. Hartmut had all the new Scienta's data on a Fujitsu drive (on the Scienta control computer). You can imagine the pain when he found it had crashed taking all his trophy spectra with it. :shrug: At least you had some backups.
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you have any 'policy' re backups ? and the method ?
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Unread 08-12-2004, 07:33 PM   #34
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Just looked at it, last ghost image is from March better get on it this weekend.
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Here's an unusual tip that worked for a colleague of mine here: seal the drive, then freeze it. Once frozen, re-connect it, and see if you can extract any data. It's very unusual, I know, but it worked for that colleague.

Is it dead/dead, as in no longer spinning?
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bad idea, if you do not dehydrate it what happens to the moisture ?
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Ben I've heard of that before but it's usually a solution for drives that are close to dead and clicking. This one doesnt detect in the bios or when it's put in a USB 2.0 enclosure. It's dead as **** basically.

If there's a silver lining it's that I missed the deadline (today) for some paperwork for a graduate class I was supposed to teach. So the hdd crash actually means LESS work for me in the next 4 months paradoxically
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Unread 08-12-2004, 08:23 PM   #38
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that doecs not sound really good re tenure ??
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bad idea, if you do not dehydrate it what happens to the moisture ?
I have heard of this working also

worst case scenario, it fries the electronics of a dead drive

however if not detected in the BIOS, couldn't you get a controller board from ebay and solder it on?
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I could but then I've bought the drive. Better to just return and RMA and move on.

Bill: Nah no worries there. I am teaching the same course to several of my students in New Zealand in Jan/Feb 2005 anyway (it's a tough life) and all I am required to be is an "acceptable" instructor anyway. Grant money and publications and graduate students are what make academic life go round...
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Hmmm - I think that for general PC use that I prefer RAID-1, unless you have a serious industry-spec RAID-5 card.

Also, for really important data, set up a cheapie box (cheap CPU wise), stick a RAID-1 card and disks on it, and sit it in a different building and backup all important data to it at least every week on a Monday morning "routine" over the network.

Perhaps somewhat surprisingly doing that is probably safer than various company implementations which keep backups in the same building as their RAID-5 box.

For me - rotational storage is now cheap enough per GB to overlook CD's, DVD's and tapes, for anyone who cares.

Getting smarter, and one could setup a pair of Linux boxes. One as the primary server, and one as the back-up machine in a different building. Run a periodical job every day that creates a day-stamped directory on the back-up box, and the main fileserver copies all files (and directories) that have changed in the last day into that directory.

Then it's a simple matter to write a script that can extract any file from any date, or rebuild the filesystem state to a particular date, or simply just rebuild up until the present date.
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