Swiftech Rad issue.

[HammerSandwich]

Originally Posted by PieEyedPiper

hah, yeah 3-4 volts wont be cooling much of anything.
I'm suprised the fan would start or run reliabley at that voltage.

It starts at 4.3V, though the same knob setting supplies 4.75 once the fan is up to speed. I run the machine 24/7, so startup isn't a factor.

[JWFokker]

I learned the thin rad lesson the hard way after buying heatercore and getting less than stelllar results. I'm buying a tranny cooler next week that will fit 4 120mm fans on it to replace my 2-342.

[PieEyedPiper]

cool.
and yeah if a BI Pro II would somehow safely mount to the radbox..I might go that route too, kinda future proofs it and allows me to add my gpu into the loop while keeping my JIUHB cool.

though it all comes down to money.

[BillA]

no, not money - which can be had
it is the space that is limiting

[PieEyedPiper]

yeah you're kinda right, i have the cash i just dont want to spend it on something a little homoerotic like my computer. One day I'll realize my life consists of more than the internet.


so is it not possible to put a BI Pro II on a radbox?

edit: SPCR seems lto like the 120mm evercools quite a bit. But I can always turn down a fan. Quietness being the thing here, is the mcp 650 really that loud compared to the aquaXtreme (mcp 600) ? I like that one cause its quieter and has push fittings, rather than large ugly reducers. But I think I could live with the ugliness, just not the noise.

[BillA]

the radbox mounts using the 4 fan holes
if you're comfortable hanging twice that much, do it

I/Swiftech would opt for something a bit more substantial - but I've not tried one either
the BI holes are not that stout (thin brass)

[PieEyedPiper]

I see, well maybe I'd best save myself the grief and stick to the plain single BI pro.
any words on the mcp650 noise? (and i just saw that its possible to slip my 3/8 tubing over the barbs, so there goes my fittings problem.
Also, the new swiffy res is neat cause of the option to use large tubing to go to the res...but will there be any swiftech kits that reflect this new addition?
I like the kit cause its cheaper than buying the parts. This could be $250 for all my swiffy gear or 350 for all my dream equip. (see: the aquaXtreme pump, BI PRO II)

[AngryAlpaca]

I've seen someone hang a double heater core from it. It seems to be possible.

[BillA]

the radbox frame is stout, its the attachment details

[PieEyedPiper]

Forgive me for acting like I'm foreign or something, but what do you actually mean by that.
I think you mean the bayres is small, yet sturdy and functional (stout) and that the details concerning the attachment of a double rad to the radbox should not go overlooked.
am I close?
I just can't figure out why on earth youd just up and say "the bayres frame is stout". just like all out of context and stuff.
sorry for the confusion.

[BillA]

too late for me, my error, sorry

radbox

[PieEyedPiper]

no worries. thanks for the clarification.

[bobkoure]

Originally Posted by unregistered

the BI holes are not that stout (thin brass)

IMHO the brass sheet is strong enough to hold the radiator - the weak point is the self-tap threads through the brass. There is room enough under the flange to put a nut. There isn't enough room for your finger, but you can get an ignition wrench in there. Use scotch tape (or something like that) to hold the nut in the wrench or you're in for some frustration.
Of course, the only way for a nut under the flange to be useful is if you use short pieces of threaded rod and use nuts at the other end to actually fasten the BI to something.

The only time I've done this was to fix a BI Pro for a friend who really didn't understand how soft brass is (or as we used to say in the m/c shop I worked in long ago "Torque it down 'till it strips - then back off a quarter turn" ). Anyway, with a nut and fender washer under each flange it was very solid (an issue because this was a lan party box - the reason my friend decided to torque those screws down).

So... the only failure I've seen was user induced (I'm sure BillA has seen a lot more BI rads than me - maybe more than the rest of us combined). At the time I was thinking that the right answer (other than capture nuts) might have been for the mfgr to pre-thread the sheet and supply nylon screws. Better to have a 5 cent part fail.

[pauldenton]

Originally Posted by unregistered

the radbox mounts using the 4 fan holes
if you're comfortable hanging twice that much, do it

I/Swiftech would opt for something a bit more substantial - but I've not tried one either
the BI holes are not that stout (thin brass)

are the thermochill rads' holes any stouter?

[BillA]

the original are plated steel, I could hang jd off them
no idea on the present ones, I think that was what was changed ?