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Unread 01-29-2005, 05:45 PM   #26
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Coolingworks res, Coolingworks sleeves, do I sense a trend ?
....Pump, rad, push fits, tubing. My point was less about my company's particular products and more about OEM in general but thanks for the ToH. Corsair has a kit that is remarkably like Swiftys kit but the reality is that they can buy most of the major components directly from Original Equipment Manufacturers.
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Unread 01-29-2005, 06:42 PM   #27
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Swifty is an OEM now...

Not many companies make and market their waterblocks themselves nowadays, Dangerden, Swiftech, Alphacool, just about everyone distributes their blocks to other companies for resale. I can almost guarentee most of swiftech's sales are to resellers and very little of their production actually gets shipped out to end users from their website.

No longer is this a mom-and-pop business, it is called the watercooling industry for a reason.
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Unread 01-29-2005, 07:01 PM   #28
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Swifty is an OEM now...


No longer is this a mom-and-pop business, it is called the watercooling industry for a reason.
Killernoodle, are you lecturing the guy who’s company makes the OEM bay reservoir that everyone uses right now.

Swifty is an OEM of water blocks, however, to be fair one would have to categorize the sale of kits as a strictly wholesale activity since some parts come from other OEMs.

This is not a slight to Swiftech. I have always been a big fan of their kits.

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Unread 01-29-2005, 07:15 PM   #29
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I wonder what that makes the car mfgrs ?
not OEM because their cars have parts made by others ?
your definition needs more subtlety

what of the comparative testing upon which the conponents' selection was based ?
what about modification of the purchased parts ?
in this specific instance I think your definition is way off
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Unread 01-29-2005, 10:14 PM   #30
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http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=226002

Ive found it, one of the best examples of bling! completely, utterly pointless.
(and of course, Tt's magical lack of sound - "Noise:21dBA")

(yes, this is OT)

"Swifty is an OEM of water blocks, however, to be fair one would have to categorize the sale of kits as a strictly wholesale activity since some parts come from other OEMs."

Thats broad - most waterblock makers probably dont make their own barbs etc, under your definition they're wholesalers...

"the serious consideration of bling is being forced upon me by the success of products having such as their principal characteristic, and even more compelling is the preference for bling at the specific expense of performance"

I guess it depends on the product - i for one, would lose a (very) small amount of performance for ease of use + function (but not bling) - people that want more will either go from scratch and make their own, or modify something to suit (see mcp350 recent mods?)

Of course, I'll take style with extra performance, but not over it.
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Unread 01-29-2005, 11:16 PM   #31
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I wonder what that makes the car mfgrs ?
not OEM because their cars have parts made by others ?
your definition needs more subtlety
More often than not the vast majority of parts used in the construction of an automobile are proprietary to a maker...you know this Bill. While an automaker may contract for blow molding, for let’s say a heater duct, the part was still designed by the auto maker and remains proprietary to that automaker. Thus the automaker is still the OEM and any parts licensed to third parties are aftermarket parts

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what of the comparative testing upon which the conponents' selection was based ?
what about modification of the purchased parts ?
Don't you think that is more a description of what AMG did when they were a separate company from Daimler? Certainly AMG didn't make Mercedes but they did make them a better car and it would be a great leap to say AMG at that time was an OEM.

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in this specific instance I think your definition is way off
I don’t think so, take the DDC for instance. No liquid cooling kit supplier had a hand in the DDC deployment or production and Laing is the OEM for the DDC regardless of who puts it in their kit. And you and I know this is painfully true, as was demonstrated.

Bill I like having beers with ya lets not get into a pissing contest over this. NONE of us should be crying about Corsairs kit. Let's hope this puts more water in the pond
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Unread 01-30-2005, 05:43 AM   #32
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lol.. i just saw a link to the corsair kit on anandtech and was like wtf that is swift and was about to make a thread... but here one is.. lol..

bill, i guess corsair gave up and decided that swiftech had already won... hey if u cant beat em, distribute them...
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Unread 01-30-2005, 10:15 AM   #33
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no, not at all
I am not a spokesman for Corsair but some things should be apparent

Corsair is in the WCing business, first with the Hydrocool and now with this kit
and I would not be surprised to see more from them, this is perceived as a growth market and they, and others, wish to participate

Corsair's kit is not the Swiftech slam-dunk that some are describing, it underwent considerable refinement along the way

L5, my post about Coolingworks was in jest, my second a humorous jibe at you - sorry it was taken so seriously
- but do note the co-inventor's name on one of those pieces of paper

dancing fans ?
do those things actually sell ?
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Unread 01-30-2005, 11:52 AM   #34
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L5, my post about Coolingworks was in jest, my second a humorous jibe at you - sorry it was taken so seriously
- but do note the co-inventor's name on one of those pieces of paper
Dry humor written does not translate well

-agreed and some with less integrity would have discounted the contributions of others. However, let’s keep the amount of development work done in this office in perspective.
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Unread 01-30-2005, 03:56 PM   #35
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dancing fans ?
do those things actually sell ?
I bloody hope not, but for them to make them someone must buy them...
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Unread 02-02-2005, 11:27 AM   #36
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and if a searsh is done for "stev" many facinating things appear an interesting fellow, their WCing guru
and appareatly the designated Delphi 'forums' rep
Who ... ?

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Unread 02-02-2005, 11:32 AM   #37
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welcome stev
I've found your posts informative, feel free
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Unread 02-02-2005, 12:07 PM   #38
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Where to by a Corsair COOL ?

For $175 not $200

Try here ...

http://www.markonecomputers.com/product.as...ir_Cool_001#des





A $25 USD savings with more features over the similar kits.

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Unread 02-04-2005, 06:51 AM   #39
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Hmm, can't say I like the fact that the tubing is "factory-clamped" to the block. Are the clamps user-removable?
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Unread 02-04-2005, 10:15 AM   #40
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with side cutters and some muscle
then use hose clamps
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Unread 02-04-2005, 12:53 PM   #41
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so what fan exactly is included with the kit?

the picture above looks like a panaflo, other pictures on the website look like another brand

why did they choose not to use swiftech's fan? a factor of noise or performance?
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Unread 02-04-2005, 12:57 PM   #42
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you'll probably have to ask Corsair directly
our newest contributor, stev, is on the Delphi side of things
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Unread 02-04-2005, 04:29 PM   #43
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Les mentioned it already, but why only 240 pins on the new Corsair waterblock?
To lower the pressure drop?
It doesn't seem to be a typo (not after so many days gone by).
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Anyone actually bought this and tested it themselves?

Looks pretty good to me for a full kit
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Unread 06-07-2005, 09:50 AM   #45
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Anyone actually bought this and tested it themselves?
Yes... Corsair COOL Water Cooling Kit review
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Unread 08-18-2005, 03:04 PM   #46
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RoboTech,

Good to see you here too!

And a nice review as well.

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