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General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion For discussion about Full Cooling System kits, or general cooling topics. Keep specific cooling items like pumps, radiators, etc... in their specific forums. |
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Cooling Savant
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They'll be at the least the same price as the current HE Series, and at the most, £4 more expensive.
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thats a pound sign... what do they teach you people over there :P
www.xe.com use the currency converter.
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Join Date: May 2003
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http://www.thermochill.com/pa1203.php
There. Can I go get drunk now??! (heh - I already did - spent this weekend at Butlins with a few thousand bikers getting well n truly blotto'd with Slade & Dr and the Medics... oo-er) Will have a full set on the way to Cathar tomorrow for final test results drawing up on the production models rather than be chelping on about prototype results... Begun talks with BillA for some testing last week, will get that underway soon as he gives me the nod...! So... give it a week or two for proper performance figures. Will post some better piccies / detail piccies within next hr or so - batteries ran out in the camera... |
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Wow, looking good...
Initially surprised by the depth though, even deeper than the HE series? Otherwise it is hard to notice any differences from the HEs. Looks to be same number of channels through as well. Looking forward to more shots. |
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Pic 1 - Full Rad (42Kb)
Pic 2 - PA Core (12Kb) Pic 3 - Depth comparison (5Kb) Pic 4 - PA vs HE (45Kb) 120.2 & 120.1 models should be available tomorrow... ![]() |
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Ahh, it all makes sense now. Thanks a bunch Marci, looking forward to see what Cathar and BillA will make of it
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Oh aye... final pricing worked out at £1.50 over the current HE Series... Note they are slightly wider than the HE Series also, which means current Performance Shrouds won't fit them unless you're prepared to bend the shroud slightly before hand. The rad is the exact same width as the shroud... whereas previous HE Series rads were 1mm narrower.
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Will there be shrouds for the PA120 coming soon?
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indeedy...
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wow, substantially less dense isnt it. Now just get some good retailers in Aus
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Seems to be a bit less restrictive than the HE series? (Just guessing, but is it? It seems like it seeing all those fins)
All in all, that looks nice so far. |
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From the link: http://www.thermochill.com/pa1203.php
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Eg: from the link on your site, graph 14 here: http://www.overclockers.com/articles778/index04.asp So, when you say the airflow/silence crowd, I'd assume you mean Papst 4312L @ 7V, which for us would mean C/W values around 0.09. So, 40% better means that C/W drops to around 0.05? That's a pretty serious improvement....
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Yep... basically... Cathar will be able to explain it better than I. PA120.1 & 120.2 were finished today and put up for retail... so will have a set off to Cathar so he can get figures from the final production models.
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Has anyone had any experience with the Aerocool Turbine fan?
http://www.aerocool.us/p-accessory/t...bine%20fan.htm I have a couple of Papst 4412FGL and just wondering if I should make the switch if I can lower the noise down. |
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Has anyone had any experience with the Aerocool Turbine fan? Or even tried it on the PA160?
http://www.aerocool.us/p-accessory/t...bine%20fan.htm It seems like a good canditate because of the extra fins for better pressure through the rad but not sure if it would be necessary for the PA120 because of it's low air restriction. I do already have a couple of Papst 4412 F/2GL, but just wondering if I should make the switch if I can lower the noise down and benefit with more airflow through it. Last edited by slimeballzz; 10-13-2005 at 08:45 PM. |
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No experience and not tried here... it's advantages would be seen more on a HE rad over a fan of similar cfm due to increased pressure, but I'd be inclined to say they'd be of little advantage on the PA series over standard fan same spec less pressure... again, Cathar's been doing the testing and has run several fans over the PA160 so would likely have more to add...
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Been thinking about getting one of these fans, but moreso because of the apparant quietness factor than anything else.
Static pressure of these fans is ~0.9mmH2O, which for a claimed 37.5cfm fan is no more or no less than what we'd expect it to be is relation to fans with less blades. |
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#48 |
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So I'll probably be better off staying with my Papst 4412 F/2GL's?
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When will the shrouds be coming out?
Also is there anywhere I can find these in Canada? I would like to buy a couple with shrouds. ![]() |
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PS120B.x now released - Performance Shroud for PA120 Series Radiators.
See http://www.thermochill.com/acatalog/...cessories.html No Canadian Resellers at the mo... order direct from thermochill.com |
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