Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks - Page 2

blue68f100 · 09-23-2006, 05:30 PM

Default for Guardian is 10.10.10.10

EDIT: What was Adaptec solution for your problem?

Hallis · 09-23-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jontz

I don't know much about the Guardian OS units, but I know that when you reset a snap it comes up as 0.0.0.0 and you have to use assist to find it. Is it a similar process with the guardian OS units?

the Snap units revert to DHCP by default i think.

I just bought a 4500, This is going to be a joint project between David and myself. Although he's the one with all the resources.

Shane

Phoenix32 · 09-23-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hallis

the Snap units revert to DHCP by default i think.

I just bought a 4500, This is going to be a joint project between David and myself. Although he's the one with all the resources.

Shane

Well, now I know who outbid me at least...

re3dyb0y · 09-24-2006, 07:20 AM

Hah

jontz · 09-24-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hallis

the Snap units revert to DHCP by default i think.
Shane

Not if you do a full reset. They come up with no IP address and you have to use assist to find it and do the initial setup.

Good luck with the 4500 project! I didn't see the auction...what did you end up paying for it? (no drives, I assume)...

jontz · 09-24-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix32

Well, now I know who outbid me at least...

Maybe you and I need to go in on one now...you supply the brains and the money, I will supply the...uhhhh...I'll think of something....

blue68f100 · 09-24-2006, 08:09 AM

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Not if you do a full reset. They come up with no IP address and you have to use assist to find it and do the initial setup.

That not all true for the Guardian OS units. They default to 10.10.10.10 if it does not see a dhcp server. Not the 0.0.0.0 like the SnapOS.

blue68f100 · 09-24-2006, 08:14 AM

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Maybe you and I need to go in on one now...you supply the brains and the money, I will supply the...uhhhh...I'll think of something....

Now I have to come up with the 4 drives. I have 2 120's I will use to play with. With Fry's selling the 400 gigs for $109 it want be to bad. Still $200 cheaper than Adaptec price for 1 w/sled $629.

jontz · 09-24-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blue68f100

That not all true for the Guardian OS units. They default to 10.10.10.10 if it does not see a dhcp server. Not the 0.0.0.0 like the SnapOS.

I was referring to the snap units, not the guardian OS units.

jontz · 09-24-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blue68f100

Now I have to come up with the 4 drives. I have 2 120's I will use to play with. With Fry's selling the 400 gigs for $109 it want be to bad. Still $200 cheaper than Adaptec price for 1 w/sled $629.

$629? Good LORD that's salty.

Hallis · 09-24-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix32

Well, now I know who outbid me at least...

Na, this auction ended with no bids, And i contacted the seller directly.

Shane

Phoenix32 · 09-24-2006, 08:54 PM

Musta missed that one...

Hallis · 09-25-2006, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jontz

Not if you do a full reset. They come up with no IP address and you have to use assist to find it and do the initial setup.

Good luck with the 4500 project! I didn't see the auction...what did you end up paying for it? (no drives, I assume)...

This will make you sick. $225 shipped. And it has a 10-bay expansion with it. With all cables and software.

longshot · 09-28-2006, 02:39 PM

Hehe I can beat that price mine was free, we are decomming ours at work and they were gonna trash untill I said I wanted it. It currently has 4x250's but I wanna push it up to the highest it can go.

re3dyb0y · 09-28-2006, 02:43 PM

Many people have obtained them like that

From colleges or places of work

longshot · 09-28-2006, 02:52 PM

Yup and its great!

Hallis · 09-28-2006, 02:55 PM

Thats actually how the person i got mine from got theirs. Was gonna get tossed. If i worked for a company that did that id have to have my own 19" rack setup for all my hardware.

jontz · 09-28-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hallis

This will make you sick. $225 shipped. And it has a 10-bay expansion with it. With all cables and software.

BLAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Glad you got a deal on it! I can't complain, I got my 4100 for $112...

blue68f100 · 09-28-2006, 04:22 PM

Longshot,

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It currently has 4x250's but I wanna push it up to the highest it can go.

You will be in unchartered waters. The 4500 can come with 4 x 400gig. These Guardian units have just started coming through here for the last couple of months. Since SnapAppliance new the SnapOS units were being hacked. They may have put limits in the OS, to stop this activity.

So any info you can pass on to us here will be greatly appriciated.

What kind of noise does the 4500 unit generate, with the P4 and 4 HD. 35+ dba

longshot · 09-28-2006, 04:43 PM

hmmm.... maybee I will buy 4 400GB drives and upgrade my 4500 to 1.6TB then use the 4 250's in the 4500 currently to upgrade my 4000 to 1TB. I am guess that if I delete any RAID config on the 4500 making them all standalone 250GB drives I could swap them out for 400's one at a time untill i get all four in it.

I cant gauge the noise because it is still in my Data Center running as I have een too lazy to derack it yet.

Jason

cianwill · 09-28-2006, 08:17 PM

longshot,

You can deffinately put 400's in it. I tried that out with my 4200 and it was no problem.

Phoenix32 · 09-28-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jontz

BLAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Glad you got a deal on it! I can't complain, I got my 4100 for $112...

Not me, I was furious with envy...

j/k

I watched two 4100's with 240GB in them and looked to be in great shape and from a seller with 100% rating for less than $100 each today... I was tempted, but my meger $ are dedicated to another venture. Right Shane?

Hallis · 09-29-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix32

Not me, I was furious with envy...

j/k

I watched two 4100's with 240GB in them and looked to be in great shape and from a seller with 100% rating for less than $100 each today... I was tempted, but my meger $ are dedicated to another venture. Right Shane?

Indeed, As might some of mine depending on how the wheels of fate turn. I hope i end up with one of them

Shane

longshot · 10-16-2006, 01:13 PM

Well I have done some research and the maximum Guardian OS limit is "Maximum file system/file size is: 10M/TB, 9M/TB respectively" so i think I am gonna try a 4x750GB build and see how it goes.

I currently have 2 750GB drives now I need one more to try a Raid 5 out.

blue68f100 · 10-16-2006, 04:05 PM

At least some one has deep pockets.

That will be a interesting test on size drives that can be installed. But actual space with 3 750 is less than 4 at 400 gig. It's the 4th one that will be interesting.

Remember : RAID 5 capacity is sum -1 drive. So you will need a 4th drive.

09-23-2006, 05:30 PM	#26
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Default for Guardian is 10.10.10.10 EDIT: What was Adaptec solution for your problem? __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820 Last edited by blue68f100; 09-23-2006 at 05:58 PM.

09-24-2006, 07:20 AM	#29
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Hah __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

09-24-2006, 08:54 PM	#37
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Musta missed that one...

09-28-2006, 02:39 PM	#39
longshot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 26	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Hehe I can beat that price mine was free, we are decomming ours at work and they were gonna trash untill I said I wanted it. It currently has 4x250's but I wanna push it up to the highest it can go. Last edited by longshot; 09-28-2006 at 02:52 PM.

09-28-2006, 02:43 PM	#40
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Many people have obtained them like that From colleges or places of work __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

09-28-2006, 02:52 PM	#41
longshot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 26	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Yup and its great!

09-28-2006, 02:55 PM	#42
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Thats actually how the person i got mine from got theirs. Was gonna get tossed. If i worked for a company that did that id have to have my own 19" rack setup for all my hardware. __________________ Snap Servers: 1100 - 1x300gb Seagate Baracuda (SnapOS Version 3.4.807) 2200 - 2x80gb Maxtor (one dead) (SnapOS 4.0.860)

09-28-2006, 04:43 PM	#45
longshot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 26	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks hmmm.... maybee I will buy 4 400GB drives and upgrade my 4500 to 1.6TB then use the 4 250's in the 4500 currently to upgrade my 4000 to 1TB. I am guess that if I delete any RAID config on the 4500 making them all standalone 250GB drives I could swap them out for 400's one at a time untill i get all four in it. I cant gauge the noise because it is still in my Data Center running as I have een too lazy to derack it yet. Jason

09-28-2006, 08:17 PM	#46
cianwill Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 49	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks longshot, You can deffinately put 400's in it. I tried that out with my 4200 and it was no problem. __________________ 4200 x4 80 GB RAID 5 M4100 x4 160 GB RAID 5 4000 x4 320 GB RAID 5 1100 x1 80 GB 1100 x 1 40 GB

10-16-2006, 01:13 PM	#49
longshot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 26	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks Well I have done some research and the maximum Guardian OS limit is "Maximum file system/file size is: 10M/TB, 9M/TB respectively" so i think I am gonna try a 4x750GB build and see how it goes. I currently have 2 750GB drives now I need one more to try a Raid 5 out.

10-16-2006, 04:05 PM	#50
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks At least some one has deep pockets. That will be a interesting test on size drives that can be installed. But actual space with 3 750 is less than 4 at 400 gig. It's the 4th one that will be interesting. Remember : RAID 5 capacity is sum -1 drive. So you will need a 4th drive. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

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