PIF a heatercore - Page 2

UnloadeD · 04-07-2003, 06:41 AM

Man, I've got enough parts around here it looks like a computer salvage yard. Making a list of items I'd part with would be a daunting task. If there were a thread or forum where people could post what they are looking for, it would be much easier. I've sent lots of small items to people- lian li fan guard, carbon fiber decal, acrylic tubes, leds.... some as far away as UK. I also traded a Ford Escort heater core for one of those small rads from an iceberg kit. I really perfer these types of transactions. It allows us to help each other out, and can't really get burned on a deal as we're giving the stuff away. If a forum is made for this idea, I'd be willing to help out in it.

peace.
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saton472 · 04-07-2003, 10:19 AM

if there clear acrilic tubes id like some. if you still got them.
Plus if any of you have some pumps you dont want anymore. feel free to send them to me. PM me about it and ill PM you my address.

UnloadeD · 04-08-2003, 12:26 AM

I got a few different sizes of clear acrylic tubes and rods. What sizes are you needing? I've got tons of modding junk, the tubes were mostely used for lights, some are a bit bigger. If you are talking about making a res, they arent big enuff for that. Also you should edit your profile, I don't know how much it costs to ship items to Hell. 8P~

peace.
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bigben2k · 04-08-2003, 08:50 AM

Hey, I need an acrylic tube, 1" O.D.!

Does anyone need any 3/4" OD, 5/8 ID polycarbonate tubing? I've still got ~4 feet of it. I'll cut it to your length.

I've still got a nice "Hi-Performance"

airtrap up for grabs...

pHaestus · 04-08-2003, 10:08 AM

OK boys I have a deal for you. I need to get some sheet metal to make a shroud for a heatercore. Since it comes in a big roll, I will be willing to make someone else a heatercore shroud. You will have to give me the outside dimensions of the core and the #/size fans you want to use. Here are a couple of examples of my handiwork:

Chevette: http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/chevettecore.jpg

Caprice:
http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/shroudfolded.jpg

Since I am in Canada, shipping of packages is an issue. To deal with this, I would suggest just leaving the shroud cut out but in one flat piece of metal. You can then bend it to spec using a ruler and either rivet or superglue the tabs down. Here is what I would send:
http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/shroudcutout.jpg

I will probably only make 1 or 2 at this time, but if there is interest then I can try and do this periodically.

saton472 · 04-08-2003, 12:18 PM

that is what i was planning on using it for. for sheet metal all you need to do is go to home depot or some home improvment store, and by some aluminum Flashing that you use when building a house. its much cheaper to do. i still need a pump though

UnloadeD · 04-08-2003, 01:54 PM

Sorry, tubing I have is less than-> 3/4" OD, 5/8 ID

mfpmax · 04-08-2003, 02:47 PM

Haha, Joe...i'm with you on this one.

Puzzdre · 04-09-2003, 04:07 AM

Hmmm, all I can offer is to make a flow indicator like in my avatar if someone is interested. Dunno how much the shipping from Croatia would cost, but think it won't be much.

If someone is willing to buy and send me some clearflex 1/2 id tubing, I will pay for tubing and for the shipping, just not to have to bother with credit cards or wire transfer (here, it's a PITA).

Sad thing is that I cannot sign up for paypal, so I'm gonna send the cash via airmail to cover all the expense.

Jack_The_Ripper · 04-09-2003, 07:35 PM

Hey who was looking for a heatercore? I have one...Came out of a Datsun mini-pickup. It has some corrosion on the fins and needs a good scrubbing, but other than that its fine (no leaks). PM your info, gimme shipping, and i send it.

saton472 · 04-11-2003, 11:45 AM

is the flow indicator able to be attached to the computer to be connected to the computer and read out on a digital display. plees say yes because if it does i got when awesome plan!! hehehe

Puzzdre · 04-11-2003, 05:03 PM

, Saton, sad, but no. Not yet. I didn't have the time to mess with another revision of it, but I have a few ideas I'll try (hopefully) this month...Need more time...and some thick lexan (still cannot find it here

)

Sry...

bigben2k · 04-11-2003, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Puzzdre
, Saton, sad, but no. Not yet. I didn't have the time to mess with another revision of it, but I have a few ideas I'll try (hopefully) this month...Need more time...and some thick lexan (still cannot find it here )

Yeah, I really need to spend some time with you on that. I found another circuit that modulates a fan pulse, so it might be possible to add a delay sensor, to turn off the pulse gen, if the wheel stops turning for more than say, 1/10 of a sec.

Puzzdre · 04-11-2003, 05:58 PM

Thx bb2k! I looked occasionally on the web for appropriate schematics, but this is what I'm thinking now:

Rip the 50 mm fan off, take out the magnet from the impeller, and glue a piece of that very strong magnet from HDD (magnet for actuator arm) inside on one place, and balance the impeller (although, in the water, it wouldn't matter a lot, gonna put a small piece of that magnet inside the impeller).

Gonna try to use the hall effect device (embedded in fan electronics) to pick up the change of magnetic field from the impeller through the 2 mm thick plastic or plexy back side of the flow indicator. Fan electronics gonna be outside on the back of the indicator. Also, gonna try to shield the stator coils somehow.

Thinking of just plugging the assembly into the mobo connector, and try to read the rpm with MBM, and enable shutdown in it.

If the hall device is not able to read slow rpm's, is it worth it to glue say 4 little magnets on every 90 deg. inside the impeller, to gain 4 times the impulse?

Dunno, think I'm gonna try that when I find some more free time...

Cheers!

/edit: sorry ppl for OT, I just got carried away

Blackeagle · 04-11-2003, 07:08 PM

Puzzde,

Size of the polycarb (Lexan) needed for your project?
I may be able to help you if 1/2" would be of help. I'm going to be cutting out some block tops for another member here this coming week, can cut yours as well at the same time if 1/2" is of use to you. Only charge is that you post pics and performace data here on these boards.

PIF ? ? WTF ? ? I've sent help to others when I could/can just to help them so long as they are sharing data & pics from their projects with all here. Hell that is what I thought this board was all about, to help each other learn, and progress is sped along by further helping each other. Worth the cost of a bit of polycarb, to me, just to see some of the outcomes of differant peoples ideas.

Never saw this thread before although I see it is a pretty old one.

Edit : If 1/2" polycarb isn't of use, what size do you need?

bigben2k · 04-11-2003, 09:03 PM

Oh man... I wanted some 1/2" polycarb, but I didn't want to pay $17 USD for a 12" by 12" sheet (McMaster), so I ordered 2 of their sample sheets of 1/4" by 6" by 6" ($1.99 ea.), which I plan to glue together, possibly using IPS Weld-on #4.

Maybe I can include a couple of those in my next order Puzzdre, but I don't know when that'll be

Puzzdre · 04-12-2003, 07:08 AM

Thx guys, you're very kind!

I'm having problems here finding polycarb in any thickness. I can find plexy up to 8 mm thick, but nothing more.

Blackeagle, 1/2 would be great for the block tops, and if it's possible, I need two pieces of 50 x 80 mm and two pcs 60 x 70 mm (two cpu block tops, and two chipset block tops). I have no experience working with lexan, so the probability that I'll mess up something is great, though I need two pieces for each block.

I'll pay for everything needed, and a drink aside

, if we can make this happen. And the pieces don't need to be cutted to size, save yourself from extra work.

Pls, if any of this is possible, check the sh+h to Croatia and let me know.

Big thanx!

Bb2k, if you happen to place the order (no matter when), pls let me know, I'm interested.

Big thanx, again, and to both of you

PS, I really hate it, I can see every day on the national TV pieces of scenery made of approx 1'' lexan, so somebody here GOTTA have it, but I just cannot find who.
GRRRR...

Thx guys!
Cheers!

04-07-2003, 10:19 AM	#27
saton472 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 57	if there clear acrilic tubes id like some. if you still got them. Plus if any of you have some pumps you dont want anymore. feel free to send them to me. PM me about it and ill PM you my address. __________________ Live and learn. Then get a Dremel. Last edited by saton472; 04-07-2003 at 11:08 AM.

04-08-2003, 08:50 AM	#29
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Hey, I need an acrylic tube, 1" O.D.! Does anyone need any 3/4" OD, 5/8 ID polycarbonate tubing? I've still got ~4 feet of it. I'll cut it to your length. I've still got a nice "Hi-Performance" airtrap up for grabs... __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101 Last edited by bigben2k; 04-08-2003 at 09:59 AM.

04-08-2003, 12:18 PM	#31
saton472 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 57	that is what i was planning on using it for. for sheet metal all you need to do is go to home depot or some home improvment store, and by some aluminum Flashing that you use when building a house. its much cheaper to do. i still need a pump though __________________ Live and learn. Then get a Dremel.

04-08-2003, 02:47 PM	#33
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	Haha, Joe...i'm with you on this one. __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

04-09-2003, 04:07 AM	#34
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Hmmm, all I can offer is to make a flow indicator like in my avatar if someone is interested. Dunno how much the shipping from Croatia would cost, but think it won't be much. If someone is willing to buy and send me some clearflex 1/2 id tubing, I will pay for tubing and for the shipping, just not to have to bother with credit cards or wire transfer (here, it's a PITA). Sad thing is that I cannot sign up for paypal, so I'm gonna send the cash via airmail to cover all the expense. __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

04-07-2003, 06:41 AM	#26
UnloadeD Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MidWest USA Posts: 176	Man, I've got enough parts around here it looks like a computer salvage yard. Making a list of items I'd part with would be a daunting task. If there were a thread or forum where people could post what they are looking for, it would be much easier. I've sent lots of small items to people- lian li fan guard, carbon fiber decal, acrylic tubes, leds.... some as far away as UK. I also traded a Ford Escort heater core for one of those small rads from an iceberg kit. I really perfer these types of transactions. It allows us to help each other out, and can't really get burned on a deal as we're giving the stuff away. If a forum is made for this idea, I'd be willing to help out in it. peace. unloaded

04-08-2003, 12:26 AM	#28
UnloadeD Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MidWest USA Posts: 176	I got a few different sizes of clear acrylic tubes and rods. What sizes are you needing? I've got tons of modding junk, the tubes were mostely used for lights, some are a bit bigger. If you are talking about making a res, they arent big enuff for that. Also you should edit your profile, I don't know how much it costs to ship items to Hell. 8P~ peace. unloaded

04-08-2003, 10:08 AM	#30
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	OK boys I have a deal for you. I need to get some sheet metal to make a shroud for a heatercore. Since it comes in a big roll, I will be willing to make someone else a heatercore shroud. You will have to give me the outside dimensions of the core and the #/size fans you want to use. Here are a couple of examples of my handiwork: Chevette: http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/chevettecore.jpg Caprice: http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/shroudfolded.jpg Since I am in Canada, shipping of packages is an issue. To deal with this, I would suggest just leaving the shroud cut out but in one flat piece of metal. You can then bend it to spec using a ruler and either rivet or superglue the tabs down. Here is what I would send: http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/shroudcutout.jpg I will probably only make 1 or 2 at this time, but if there is interest then I can try and do this periodically.

04-08-2003, 01:54 PM	#32
UnloadeD Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MidWest USA Posts: 176	Sorry, tubing I have is less than-> 3/4" OD, 5/8 ID

04-09-2003, 07:35 PM	#35
Jack_The_Ripper Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 8	Hey who was looking for a heatercore? I have one...Came out of a Datsun mini-pickup. It has some corrosion on the fins and needs a good scrubbing, but other than that its fine (no leaks). PM your info, gimme shipping, and i send it.

04-11-2003, 11:45 AM	#36
saton472 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 57	is the flow indicator able to be attached to the computer to be connected to the computer and read out on a digital display. plees say yes because if it does i got when awesome plan!! hehehe __________________ Live and learn. Then get a Dremel.

04-11-2003, 05:03 PM	#37
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	, Saton, sad, but no. Not yet. I didn't have the time to mess with another revision of it, but I have a few ideas I'll try (hopefully) this month...Need more time...and some thick lexan (still cannot find it here ) Sry... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

04-11-2003, 05:58 PM	#39
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Thx bb2k! I looked occasionally on the web for appropriate schematics, but this is what I'm thinking now: Rip the 50 mm fan off, take out the magnet from the impeller, and glue a piece of that very strong magnet from HDD (magnet for actuator arm) inside on one place, and balance the impeller (although, in the water, it wouldn't matter a lot, gonna put a small piece of that magnet inside the impeller). Gonna try to use the hall effect device (embedded in fan electronics) to pick up the change of magnetic field from the impeller through the 2 mm thick plastic or plexy back side of the flow indicator. Fan electronics gonna be outside on the back of the indicator. Also, gonna try to shield the stator coils somehow. Thinking of just plugging the assembly into the mobo connector, and try to read the rpm with MBM, and enable shutdown in it. If the hall device is not able to read slow rpm's, is it worth it to glue say 4 little magnets on every 90 deg. inside the impeller, to gain 4 times the impulse? Dunno, think I'm gonna try that when I find some more free time... Cheers! /edit: sorry ppl for OT, I just got carried away __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)' Last edited by Puzzdre; 04-11-2003 at 06:09 PM.

04-11-2003, 07:08 PM	#40
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	PIF ? ? WTF ? Puzzde, Size of the polycarb (Lexan) needed for your project? I may be able to help you if 1/2" would be of help. I'm going to be cutting out some block tops for another member here this coming week, can cut yours as well at the same time if 1/2" is of use to you. Only charge is that you post pics and performace data here on these boards. PIF ? ? WTF ? ? I've sent help to others when I could/can just to help them so long as they are sharing data & pics from their projects with all here. Hell that is what I thought this board was all about, to help each other learn, and progress is sped along by further helping each other. Worth the cost of a bit of polycarb, to me, just to see some of the outcomes of differant peoples ideas. Never saw this thread before although I see it is a pretty old one. Edit : If 1/2" polycarb isn't of use, what size do you need?

04-11-2003, 09:03 PM	#41
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Oh man... I wanted some 1/2" polycarb, but I didn't want to pay $17 USD for a 12" by 12" sheet (McMaster), so I ordered 2 of their sample sheets of 1/4" by 6" by 6" ($1.99 ea.), which I plan to glue together, possibly using IPS Weld-on #4. Maybe I can include a couple of those in my next order Puzzdre, but I don't know when that'll be __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-12-2003, 07:08 AM	#42
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Thx guys, you're very kind! I'm having problems here finding polycarb in any thickness. I can find plexy up to 8 mm thick, but nothing more. Blackeagle, 1/2 would be great for the block tops, and if it's possible, I need two pieces of 50 x 80 mm and two pcs 60 x 70 mm (two cpu block tops, and two chipset block tops). I have no experience working with lexan, so the probability that I'll mess up something is great, though I need two pieces for each block. I'll pay for everything needed, and a drink aside , if we can make this happen. And the pieces don't need to be cutted to size, save yourself from extra work. Pls, if any of this is possible, check the sh+h to Croatia and let me know. Big thanx! Bb2k, if you happen to place the order (no matter when), pls let me know, I'm interested. Big thanx, again, and to both of you PS, I really hate it, I can see every day on the national TV pieces of scenery made of approx 1'' lexan, so somebody here GOTTA have it, but I just cannot find who. GRRRR... Thx guys! Cheers! __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)' Last edited by Puzzdre; 04-13-2003 at 03:41 AM.

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