Suggestion about confronting Water Cooling sites. - Page 2

BillA · 03-23-2003, 11:45 PM

I think this is WAY off base, for several reasons
understand that I have had dealings with quite a number of mfgrs, a number of whom for some years

put on your mfgrs hat and try to view this exercise from their perspective:

exhibit 1 has got to be that grand repository of carefully maintained ignorance, the hard forums
- some kiddie screws up a product, issues a red alert 'shit product warning' to his buddies - and they rant for pages
- or has a genuine problem, issues a red alert 'shit product from shit mfgr warning' - and they rant for pages
- and if the mfgr attempts to respond in any fashion, the kiddies gather and have a circle dump
-- my point being that some don't know enough to ask a good question, or understand an answer when (or if) provided

exhibit 2 has got to be that grand repository of all the world’s present and future WCing knowledge, the procooling forums
- some 'pro' gets a bee-in-his-bonnet and denounces a wb's conceptual design basis
- another says no, but 'it looks like shit'
- and yet another says no, 'the designer's a shit'
-- here the specialty is picking the pepper out of the fly shit

exhibit 3 is the home of the 3 monkeys, hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, speak-no-evil overclockers
- where anything is ok so long as it is not critical

note that I'm referring to the forums, much could be written about these sites,
except this one which does no reviews

more seriously, a good informative post requires a bit of research and some carefully crafted writing
and then come the questions, some from the terminally ignorant and others chasing irrelevant minutiae
- how can a mfgr (whose sales depend also on his 'image') possibly devote enough time to this task to do it well ?

and why blackball a mfgr who does not wish to attempt the impossible ?
answering questions does NOT equate to wb performance
(never tested one yet that could talk)

focus on identifying:
what you need to know
what you would like to know
do the collar and cuffs match

Fixittt · 03-23-2003, 11:52 PM

very nicley put Bill.

jaydee · 03-24-2003, 09:19 AM

No argument here.

winewood · 03-24-2003, 11:05 AM

wow.. thats the one of the clearest, most concise points that I have read. Very well put. I believe you are 100% correct Bill. Thanks.

03-23-2003, 11:52 PM	#27
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	very nicley put Bill. __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-24-2003, 11:05 AM	#29
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	wow.. thats the one of the clearest, most concise points that I have read. Very well put. I believe you are 100% correct Bill. Thanks. __________________ -winewood-

03-23-2003, 11:45 PM	#26
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	I think this is WAY off base, for several reasons understand that I have had dealings with quite a number of mfgrs, a number of whom for some years put on your mfgrs hat and try to view this exercise from their perspective: exhibit 1 has got to be that grand repository of carefully maintained ignorance, the hard forums - some kiddie screws up a product, issues a red alert 'shit product warning' to his buddies - and they rant for pages - or has a genuine problem, issues a red alert 'shit product from shit mfgr warning' - and they rant for pages - and if the mfgr attempts to respond in any fashion, the kiddies gather and have a circle dump -- my point being that some don't know enough to ask a good question, or understand an answer when (or if) provided exhibit 2 has got to be that grand repository of all the world’s present and future WCing knowledge, the procooling forums - some 'pro' gets a bee-in-his-bonnet and denounces a wb's conceptual design basis - another says no, but 'it looks like shit' - and yet another says no, 'the designer's a shit' -- here the specialty is picking the pepper out of the fly shit exhibit 3 is the home of the 3 monkeys, hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, speak-no-evil overclockers - where anything is ok so long as it is not critical note that I'm referring to the forums, much could be written about these sites, except this one which does no reviews more seriously, a good informative post requires a bit of research and some carefully crafted writing and then come the questions, some from the terminally ignorant and others chasing irrelevant minutiae - how can a mfgr (whose sales depend also on his 'image') possibly devote enough time to this task to do it well ? and why blackball a mfgr who does not wish to attempt the impossible ? answering questions does NOT equate to wb performance (never tested one yet that could talk) focus on identifying: what you need to know what you would like to know do the collar and cuffs match

03-24-2003, 09:19 AM	#28
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	No argument here.

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