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Unread 04-16-2003, 12:52 AM   #26
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don't sweat it

but the pump is the really big question
I guess I could measure it, but why ?
- as in who would have any interest at all in such ?
anyone wanting to use chilled water is simply going to do it by trial and error
Ah the pump. That is a problem.
Does not help, but have added a WW graph to my previous post.
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Unread 04-16-2003, 12:56 AM   #27
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Much respect for Les. He's one of the underappreciated people around here.
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Unread 04-16-2003, 01:06 AM   #28
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Les
interesting, your graphs (if I understand them - always a challenge) suggest that the WW should do better than the 462
- I'm ignoring the values and looking at the slope of the lines

I guess I could test it . . . .
I'll think on it
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Unread 04-16-2003, 04:19 AM   #29
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Much respect for Les. He's one of the underappreciated people around here.
Hmmm, I couldn't think more highly of Les.

Persistent, willing to question oneself, adaptive, humble and resourceful.

His on-line presence is everything I would ever aspire to be, but I'm too much of a hot-head.

Les is greatly appreciated here on this side of the planet.
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Unread 04-16-2003, 07:23 AM   #30
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ahem
intelligence without education ain't squat
bite the bullet, get it done
Right on.

I've been wrongly taught about pressure (among other things), and it confuses the heck out of me, at times. I still have a lot to learn to get anywhere near the likes of Bill or Les:shrug:

Cathar, can you comment on the DTek rumor?
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Unread 04-16-2003, 08:12 AM   #31
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chilled water is the future (for those not already there)
I agree with BillA on this. With the CPU/GPU/NB all getting hotter, standard air cooled system will soon be overloaded or very loud.

Most standard watercooled system can keep up for now. But when you start to add all the items that would have to be cooled to have a quiet system... 150 ~ 200watt heatsource is not out of the question anymore. Throw in the next gen 15K rpm harddrives, GPU's, CPU's , this heat will soon become even too much for watercooled!

Here is my heatload (may not be accurate but)
CPU 2.66 oc'ed to 3.1 @ 1.65V = 85W
GPU Radeon 9700Pro ..............= 35W
SIS 655 NB ..............................= 15W (guess)
2 x ViaAqua 1300 pumps ........= 40W

Total 175W

I have recently built myself a chiller using a dehumidifier. My goal was for 24/7 operations, quiteness, and OC'ablility. Some of my observation.

Water Temp ..... CPU temp ....... Delta
..............................no load
0c ------------------> 5C ------------> 5C
-3C -----------------> 4C ------------> 7C
-7C ---------------- > 3C ------------> 10C
-12C ---------------> 2C ------------> 14C

It would seem that the lower we want the CPU, the delta between the CPU and water temps increase. It would seem that the "cold-loss" as we get colder increases thereby reducing the effectiveness of the chiller??
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Unread 04-16-2003, 08:22 AM   #32
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Probably the diode reader is not calibrated for that range of temperature.
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Unread 04-16-2003, 09:18 AM   #33
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Hmmm, I couldn't think more highly of Les.

Persistent, willing to question oneself, adaptive, humble and resourceful.

His on-line presence is everything I would ever aspire to be, but I'm too much of a hot-head.

Les is greatly appreciated here on this side of the planet.
Same here. All of the above.
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Unread 04-16-2003, 05:46 PM   #34
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Cathar, can you comment on the DTek rumor?
What do you want me to say?

Has already been confirmed by D-Tek themselves.

I'm really looking forwards to the block hitting the scenes. It'll be an exact copy in terms of the important bits.
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Unread 04-29-2003, 04:27 PM   #35
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D-Tek says 3 weeks and will be roughly $70.......
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Unread 04-29-2003, 05:05 PM   #36
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That's not bad.... any plans for a poly or copper top then?
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Unread 04-29-2003, 06:49 PM   #37
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That's not bad.... any plans for a poly or copper top then?
Don't know. Doubt it on the Copper top. Looks like they did a pretty impressive job of anodizing it. They are also using crome barbs which I would think would severly limit any battery effect if the barbs managed to penetrate that killer hard anodizing finish.

Block looks really good.
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Unread 04-30-2003, 03:22 AM   #38
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For all you curious people that didn't see it, here's a couple of pics of what it will look like:











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Unread 04-30-2003, 12:10 PM   #39
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Purrty. A little bit dirty is it not? .
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The 'D' in D~Tek stands for dandruff ...
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Unread 05-16-2003, 11:04 AM   #41
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So what is happening w/ DTEK and WW???

No news for a while, :shrug: anyone know anything (Wanna buy), Anyone know if they can be preordered and is this a good Idea?

Thanks MikeE
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Unread 05-16-2003, 02:06 PM   #42
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I've been told by Danny at D-Tek that ours should start shipping from D-tek in about 2 weeks...(can be more or less can't really say) I'm a bit like you guys....waiting anxiously.

I'm crossing my fingers because just from the emails and phone calls we recieve, lots of people are waiting for it and I'm sure we're going to be sold out in no time.
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