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WAJ_UK · 02-17-2004, 03:27 PM

sorry my question wasn't that clear it was the third time I tried to post it and it gradually got shorter and shorter until it din't make any sense.
I was just wondering if it was apples, oranges or mangos (Centigrade, Fahrenheit or Kelvin)

I know Centigrade and Kelvin will be the same in terms of delta T, I assumed it would be one of these scales but the flow rate is in GPM so I thought that the temp might be mearsured using the Farenheit scale. This might be obvious to some people due to values but I really have no idea when it comes to Farenheit

Blackeagle · 02-17-2004, 03:39 PM

As always pH, great job!

WAJ UK,

You say your water temps are 2c worse as compared to the RBX. I take this to mean the water is 2c warmer, which would be a problem at the rad as you say.

Could you post the following regarding you rad set up: Rad's WxHxD, single or dual shrouds, fans diameter & thickness + cfm & pressure? Is the air flowing through the rad outside room temp air, or warmer case air? Many influences in good rad performance, and a large heater core should perform well if set up right.

From what you posted regarding water temps your problem may well be the fan(s) or how the fans are set up, not the heater core.

joemac · 02-17-2004, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAJ_UK

sorry my question wasn't that clear it was the third time I tried to post it and it gradually got shorter and shorter until it din't make any sense.
I was just wondering if it was apples, oranges or mangos (Centigrade, Fahrenheit or Kelvin)

I know Centigrade and Kelvin will be the same in terms of delta T, I assumed it would be one of these scales but the flow rate is in GPM so I thought that the temp might be mearsured using the Farenheit scale. This might be obvious to some people due to values but I really have no idea when it comes to Farenheit

I caught what you are saying:
If you are using Celsius should you not also use LPM rather than GPM. Well I think that is what you are trying to say

pHaestus · 02-17-2004, 06:33 PM

Everything is in degrees celsius. I am aware that I should really graph in terms of LPM, but my flowmeter reports gallons per minute and I am lazy

I hope that Joe will soon have the website addon done that will dynamically graph information as people request it (just tick off the wbs of interest and it will generate comparative performance vs. flow rate curves). I would suspect that it will be easy to add a "metric" or "US" option for that.

WAJ_UK · 02-18-2004, 02:53 AM

sorry Blackeagle another case of the question getting shortened until it made no sense, I seem to be good at that. I won't get into the rad thing here, it's a bit off topic. I think it might be to do with dodgy measurements and not having a suitable test environment where the ambient temp is nice and steady. I think my results might be completely **** anyway. My delta t is about 4-5 degrees lower than PH's

#Rotor · 02-20-2004, 04:40 PM

hey PH ... Mind if I add that graph to my pin-grid Gallary

Here

or are you still busy resting... eerrr I mean Testing

jaydee · 03-12-2004, 01:53 PM

The Lemon Block
The King Pin
The Lumpy Channel Block
The Pin Block

Where all sent about 2 weeks ago. Let me know when you ge them pH.

pHaestus · 03-12-2004, 04:48 PM

Still haven't gotten them JayDee. 2 weeks already? I had a major catastrophe yesterday with my notebook, but I eventually managed to recover all the test data and writing. I have sent 2 wb reviews to Joe to post in the last few weeks but he's been too busy to get them up with travel. I am hoping by the end of the month to transition over to where I can post articles myself and deal with all the day to day Procooling site issues personally. I got sleep last night; maybe I'll finish some testing tonight after all. Currently I have the all-copper whitewater plumbed into the test loop...

jaydee · 03-12-2004, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Still haven't gotten them JayDee. 2 weeks already? I had a major catastrophe yesterday with my notebook, but I eventually managed to recover all the test data and writing. I have sent 2 wb reviews to Joe to post in the last few weeks but he's been too busy to get them up with travel. I am hoping by the end of the month to transition over to where I can post articles myself and deal with all the day to day Procooling site issues personally. I got sleep last night; maybe I'll finish some testing tonight after all. Currently I have the all-copper whitewater plumbed into the test loop...

Well 2 weeks as of tomorrow. Sent them right before my last raod trip. Thought you would have them by now... Oh well, I put return to sender on the package if it doesn't make it. If you don't get them by next weekend I will make up some more. Give me an excuse to drive the 120miles one way to the mill.

Not good about the notebook. I will spend some time tomorrow backing mine up!

deathBOB · 03-16-2004, 06:33 PM

OK question: Mag 3 and Procore Jr with 1/2 ID tubing. Assume not kinks or turnes greater than a few degrees. What kind of flow am I lookin at?

EDIT: It would be very cool to make a cost vs. performance graph... I bet a lot of would be watercoolers (like myself) would be interested in that... Maybe assuming a moderate rate of flow...

nikhsub1 · 03-16-2004, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathBOB

OK question: Mag 3 and Procore Jr with 1/2 ID tubing. Assume not kinks or turnes greater than a few degrees. What kind of flow am I lookin at?

With what block? With a WW, I would estimate about 7.5 - 8lpm or so.

deathBOB · 03-17-2004, 11:59 AM

I am trying to determine whether flow would be good enough to use a Maze 4 effectivly... What about the TC-4??

nikhsub1 · 03-31-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Currently I have the all-copper whitewater plumbed into the test loop...

Waiting...

02-17-2004, 06:33 PM	#29
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Everything is in degrees celsius. I am aware that I should really graph in terms of LPM, but my flowmeter reports gallons per minute and I am lazy I hope that Joe will soon have the website addon done that will dynamically graph information as people request it (just tick off the wbs of interest and it will generate comparative performance vs. flow rate curves). I would suspect that it will be easy to add a "metric" or "US" option for that. __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

02-18-2004, 02:53 AM	#30
WAJ_UK Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sussex Posts: 109	sorry Blackeagle another case of the question getting shortened until it made no sense, I seem to be good at that. I won't get into the rad thing here, it's a bit off topic. I think it might be to do with dodgy measurements and not having a suitable test environment where the ambient temp is nice and steady. I think my results might be completely **** anyway. My delta t is about 4-5 degrees lower than PH's Last edited by WAJ_UK; 02-18-2004 at 09:47 AM.

02-20-2004, 04:40 PM	#31
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	hey PH ... Mind if I add that graph to my pin-grid Gallary Here or are you still busy resting... eerrr I mean Testing __________________ There is no Spoon....

03-12-2004, 01:53 PM	#32
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	The Lemon Block The King Pin The Lumpy Channel Block The Pin Block Where all sent about 2 weeks ago. Let me know when you ge them pH. Last edited by jaydee116; 03-29-2004 at 08:44 AM.

03-12-2004, 04:48 PM	#33
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Still haven't gotten them JayDee. 2 weeks already? I had a major catastrophe yesterday with my notebook, but I eventually managed to recover all the test data and writing. I have sent 2 wb reviews to Joe to post in the last few weeks but he's been too busy to get them up with travel. I am hoping by the end of the month to transition over to where I can post articles myself and deal with all the day to day Procooling site issues personally. I got sleep last night; maybe I'll finish some testing tonight after all. Currently I have the all-copper whitewater plumbed into the test loop... __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

02-17-2004, 03:27 PM	#26
WAJ_UK Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sussex Posts: 109	sorry my question wasn't that clear it was the third time I tried to post it and it gradually got shorter and shorter until it din't make any sense. I was just wondering if it was apples, oranges or mangos (Centigrade, Fahrenheit or Kelvin) I know Centigrade and Kelvin will be the same in terms of delta T, I assumed it would be one of these scales but the flow rate is in GPM so I thought that the temp might be mearsured using the Farenheit scale. This might be obvious to some people due to values but I really have no idea when it comes to Farenheit

02-17-2004, 03:39 PM	#27
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	As always pH, great job! WAJ UK, You say your water temps are 2c worse as compared to the RBX. I take this to mean the water is 2c warmer, which would be a problem at the rad as you say. Could you post the following regarding you rad set up: Rad's WxHxD, single or dual shrouds, fans diameter & thickness + cfm & pressure? Is the air flowing through the rad outside room temp air, or warmer case air? Many influences in good rad performance, and a large heater core should perform well if set up right. From what you posted regarding water temps your problem may well be the fan(s) or how the fans are set up, not the heater core.

03-16-2004, 06:33 PM	#35
deathBOB Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 60	OK question: Mag 3 and Procore Jr with 1/2 ID tubing. Assume not kinks or turnes greater than a few degrees. What kind of flow am I lookin at? EDIT: It would be very cool to make a cost vs. performance graph... I bet a lot of would be watercoolers (like myself) would be interested in that... Maybe assuming a moderate rate of flow...

03-17-2004, 11:59 AM	#37
deathBOB Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 60	I am trying to determine whether flow would be good enough to use a Maze 4 effectivly... What about the TC-4??

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