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Unread 05-25-2003, 10:26 PM   #501
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Unread 05-25-2003, 11:38 PM   #502
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jaydee, what kind of controller is on the machine that you got? Be as specific as possable as to the make/model of it. I might be able to help you out in getting the thing to run with a more conventional format....that is g-code.
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Unread 05-25-2003, 11:48 PM   #503
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jaydee, what kind of controller is on the machine that you got? Be as specific as possable as to the make/model of it. I might be able to help you out in getting the thing to run with a more conventional format....that is g-code.
It is a tiny desktop mill. It is nothing like anything industrial. The stepper motor controller is run by the computer itself instead of the job loading to the controller and the controller handling the job. Which is kinda cool actually as it shows on the computer screen exactly what it is doing on the mill and you can run it without the mill on.

Here is the G-Code commands it supports and doesn't support.
http://www.acumotion.com/gcode.shtml As you will see it is very limited. The software has a .dxf to G code converter which works well as long as it is a tool path .dxf.
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Unread 05-26-2003, 08:24 AM   #504
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... If not i will buy the 10,000RPM pully from Sherline that is made for the mill.
Let me know the cost: I'll make a contribution to that.

Thanks for your patience!
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Unread 05-26-2003, 07:47 PM   #505
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If you guys can deal with APT, and have a post-processor, I can hook you up quick.

Alternatively, I could take a shot at some G-code for jaydee's machine. I will look into that tomorrow.

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If you guys can deal with APT, and have a post-processor, I can hook you up quick.

Alternatively, I could take a shot at some G-code for jaydee's machine. I will look into that tomorrow.

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Yeah if someone less "ignorant" than I about G-code can take the list I posted above and make some code it would probably be better than the software converter it came with, it does seem to work alright, but it certainly isn't optimal. I would ask though that the code be seperate for each type of tool needed and just set it up for one pass on each section. I will manually set the depth each pass as I have no clue how deep I will be able to go on each pass untill I try it.
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Unread 05-26-2003, 10:56 PM   #507
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I was just looking at it....I could program the thing easily using the G-codes from your link. You might have to manually edit the program, but I can help you out with that also. You are limited on you rpm & stuff....but I can make a huge program...light depth of cuts, slow feed rates, ect. the thing might take 8 hous to run....but then its in your garage...just get the thing going...play a round of golf...come back, check on it..go to bed...it the morning, viola. This ould only be for the detailed center area...obvioulsy for the holes & stuff you would have to be there to set up tools & such.
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I was just looking at it....I could program the thing easily using the G-codes from your link. You might have to manually edit the program, but I can help you out with that also. You are limited on you rpm & stuff....but I can make a huge program...light depth of cuts, slow feed rates, ect. the thing might take 8 hous to run....but then its in your garage...just get the thing going...play a round of golf...come back, check on it..go to bed...it the morning, viola. This ould only be for the detailed center area...obvioulsy for the holes & stuff you would have to be there to set up tools & such.
Yeah the center area is all I really need, the other stuff is easy. I can only run the mill for 30-45 minutes at a time as the motor is a high tourque DC motor with no self cooling. They only recommend continuous use for that amount of time. So if you want to make just a one pass set of code (which it would probably be 45 minutes a pass) it lets me edit it after each pass as it has a G-Code window and shows all the steps as it is happening. I just have to change the depth of the cut and hit go after each pass.
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jaydee...do you have ICQ....mine is 72122748
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Unread 05-26-2003, 11:59 PM   #510
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jaydee...do you have ICQ....mine is 72122748
Yeah I just signed up actually. 209088941 is the number they gave me. I am off for the night though. Should be back online after work tomorrow.
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Yeah if someone less "ignorant" than I about G-code can take the list I posted above and make some code it would probably be better than the software converter it came with, it does seem to work alright, but it certainly isn't optimal. I would ask though that the code be seperate for each type of tool needed and just set it up for one pass on each section. I will manually set the depth each pass as I have no clue how deep I will be able to go on each pass untill I try it.
Is your machine only set up for 2D (2.5D) work? Or are you just wanting to set Z yourself out of safety/paranoia? If so, 1 z-level pass for each tool will be all you need, correct?

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Is your machine only set up for 2D (2.5D) work? Or are you just wanting to set Z yourself out of safety/paranoia? If so, 1 z-level pass for each tool will be all you need, correct?

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Want to set Z myself each pass so yes one z level pass. Makes it easy to shut themill off after a complete pass has been made and let it cool down for a while.
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Why don't you cool the motor with a house fan?
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Unread 05-27-2003, 10:01 AM   #514
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Why don't you cool the motor with a house fan?
Will not work. It is completely housed. A fan doesn't cool fast enough. It gets very hot! I was going to water cool it at one time. Still trying to figure that out though.
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Bump for an update. It's been over a month!
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Unread 07-10-2003, 08:08 AM   #517
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No progress, none whatsoever!

Maybe I should just send the copper to Jaydee: what do you think?

Since I came up with an idea that lead to the Cascade, I'm inclined to go that route, but I'm not giving up on Radius: it's going to be built, no matter what.

I've had a chance to try to size the shroud in my case, and there's no way that the monstrous res that I made is going to fit, so that's going to have to go back to the drawing board. Maybe I can just mod it, to angle out the inlet, at 90 degrees... but I really need my Dremel to get anywhere from here!
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No progress, none whatsoever!

Maybe I should just send the copper to Jaydee: what do you think?

Since I came up with an idea that lead to the Cascade, I'm inclined to go that route, but I'm not giving up on Radius: it's going to be built, no matter what.

I've had a chance to try to size the shroud in my case, and there's no way that the monstrous res that I made is going to fit, so that's going to have to go back to the drawing board. Maybe I can just mod it, to angle out the inlet, at 90 degrees... but I really need my Dremel to get anywhere from here!
Before you send the copper let me play with a small endmill first on my mill. I am not to confident it will handle it because of the access slop in the table. I am going to order a couple small endmills today to play with the "Jet" block tops in a couple weekends. I have another Pin block I want to try with a small endmill in copper and I will see how it turns out....
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Ok, thanks!
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*BUMP*!

It turned ou to be? Im curious about this one!
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*BUMP*!

It turned ou to be? Im curious about this one!
I don't think anything has been accomplished yet. Something is not right with my mill and I think I am going to have to order some replacment parts to fix the problems. Untill then I have more slop in the table than the width of the endmill it is going to take to make this thing. Which is not good. Once I get caught up on a few things at home I can start digging into it again. Winter is near and more time will be available to mess around (maybe).
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*BUMP*!

It turned ou to be? Im curious about this one!
It seems that radius become obsolete before seing the light :shrug:
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It seems that radius become obsolete before seing the light :shrug:
And that raises the question, is such a tough block to make even worth the effort at this point when a easier to make block like a Cascade variant will probably beat it anyway?
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I still want to make it.

Funds is a limit right now, so this is just going to have to wait through a natural progression.

Got a PM from Cathar this morning, and to thank nikhsub1 and me for our contribution, he's sending us a silver edition "Cascade" block.

Thanks Cathar, you're a true gentleman.
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You pay for the material only or he offered it completely? Damn

So you will change your sig now?
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