Cut it Out??!!??

[HAL-9000]

Snapped a picture of this hottie from Comic-Con. She was a model for the upcoming Species III movie and was for some reason in this glass case in their booth. According to attendees who had been at the convention all day, she was quite active and feisty earlier in the morning. By the time I saw her, as you can see here she is somewhat subdued and probably not thrilled about being oogled by MMORPG geeks by the thousand. Now she's on the internet! Just figured that since there is a vote about turning Procooling into a pr0n site, what the hell. Perhaps the "propr0n" domain is available!

[BillA]

hope her dad did not overspend on education

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

I don't see any reason to sugar coat it; if someone is a ****ing idiot then that is what they are. But perhaps we are a bit quick to throw out allegations of stupidity or idiocy. Maybe simply pointing out what is incorrect in a review is more acceptable?

Well I am poor at sugar coating stuff anyway as most of you know. When I used to post these BS reviews I intentionally left out some specifics of what was wrong. Takes all the fun out of everyone jumping in and pointing out new stuff wrong.

I tell you what, I seen some reviews so blatantly wrong I just couldn't see the point of pointing out what is wrong because the whole damn thing was. It is really pathetic that people setup one water cooling system and all the sudden think they can write technical articles on water cooling. It took me a couple years and a lot of WC setups before I really started learning anything and I am still not the sharpest knife in the drawer on the subject.

[RoboTech]

Kudos pH for bringing the subject up… In a perfect world most of us could be more tolerant and helpful in an effort to promote the art of water-cooling. In reality we are human… Awareness and an occasional reminder to focus on the positive strengths of ProCooling might be a good start!

I’ve certainly found myself on both sides of this fence… I also feel like I have learned a thing or two from the more knowledgeable around here over the years – even if sometimes it was presented harshly.

In the big picture, I find most folks in the forums here helpful. Yeah, sometimes we get off track and egos and tempers flare, but when you are truly interested it’s bound to get emotional. What I do find irritating at times are the few that like to sit on the bank casting criticism but rarely if ever get off their butts to offer constructive advice, or attempt any real testing or experimenting themselves. Oh well, that’s life…

Keep up the good work guys…

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by unregistered

hope her dad did not overspend on education

Also possible she's taken the job to help pay for her education that her father failed to provide. Plenty of young attractive University students that "work" to pay for their education.

There you go Phaestus. You can claim intellectuality along the way by hiring desperate University students.

[BillA]

lets hope she's thinking (but if she was, why in the box ? - yea, money)

hmm, perhaps Swiftech neds an 'intern' or two ?
screw that, I just need even an ugly MALE tech

[BalefireX]

If I looked like that and was at a con, I'd want to be protected by 1/2" of Lexan... the ones I pity are the booth babes out in the open.

[joemac]

Originally Posted by HAL-9000

Snapped a picture of this hottie from Comic-Con. She was a model for the upcoming Species III movie and was for some reason in this glass case in their booth. According to attendees who had been at the convention all day, she was quite active and feisty earlier in the morning. By the time I saw her, as you can see here she is somewhat subdued and probably not thrilled about being oogled by MMORPG geeks by the thousand. Now she's on the internet! Just figured that since there is a vote about turning Procooling into a pr0n site, what the hell. Perhaps the "propr0n" domain is available!

I'll have one of those - to go please.

[SlaterSpeed]

Pr0n it is then!

Why dont we have a review section with a "Beware - Big Players Bashing " warning?

[cougem]

Originally Posted by unregistered

hope her dad did not overspend on education

Maybe she's investigating Schrodinger's cat?

[msv]

Lets see, what *can* be changed?
Idiocy is, unfortunately, cronical.
We can´t prevent people from posting idiotic reviews, if the tester is an idiot.
If someone really wants to flame a review we likely can´t prevent that someone from flaming.
Lack of education, on the other hand, *can* be remedied.
As some allready has suggested, set up a small how-to over testing, listing the most obvious mistakes, physical laws etc. that one should be aware of during testing.
If a bad review is posted somewhere, present the better way to the uneducated tester (in a more or less harsh way). If that someone doesn´t want his/her medicin then feel free to light up the flamethrowers.
But give the tester a fair chance to prove him/herself uneducated instead of assuming idiocy by default.
At least that can remove some of the worst reviews from the net. OK, hopefully, I should know better than just assume something like that.
(why is experience so often of a bitter kind?)

In my beautiful little world noone regards him/herself as an idiot (even if many are wrong on that topic), but calling someone an idiot is a very effective way to make that someone *behave* like an idiot, and defending his/her right to behave in that way, which, of course convinces You even more that this person is an idiot. And the flames get hotter.

Yes, dealing with suspected idiots *is* very demanding and tiering, even dealing with educatable, uneducated is a heavy burden (empiric studies), but my opinion is still that we should give people a second chance before flaming them.

And, no, pr0n is not a better alternative than watercooling, if the teasers allready posted is what will be served.

regards
Mikael S.

[jaydee]

Hummm, if you call someone and idiot and then he behaves like an idiot in response there is a good chance he is in fact an idiot. Anyone not an idiot would have been able to put you in your place with empirical evidence as to why he is not an idiot. If you decide to ignore his evidence as to why he is not an idiot then you are the idiot. So I see an idiot people exposed either way. Now is that a bad thing? Hummm....

[msv]

Yeah, I bet You´re right Jaeydee.
If You called me an idiot I would ask You WTF You´re meaning. As gentlemen (pistols, not flamethrowers) we would settle the thing out and be happy afterwards.
Being accused for an idiot doesn´t mean You have to act as one, but many people get pissed off by such an accusation, and pissed off people can behave like idiots without being idiots.
Of course, idiots are even more prone to behave like idiots.

I gave this thread a good thought before going to bed yesterday.
There´s a standard argument from the less enlighted sites with the dubious reviews:
"Our readers are not so technically experienced, so we can´t throw them a lot of scientific stuff."
The review flaming on this site never has questioned the competens of any sites *readers*, only the competens of some sites editors.
Back in first grade, primary school, I simply assumed that even if I wasn´t very good at reading that wouldn´t excuse an analfabet for a teacher. My low competens in a certain topic doesn´t mean it´s OK to teach me rubbish.
What´s worse:
1. A first class, primary school, teacher saying: "Yes, 'dog' is spelled d-o-u-g-h, very good."
or
2. Another person brutally slapping the same teacher in his/her neck and shouting into his/her ear: "No, godammit! 'Dog' is spelled d-o-g, You imbecill moron!"

regards
Mikael S.

[BillA]

ah msv, the jd you know is reformed, was struck by lightning, 'saw the light'
2yrs ago (? jd ?) jd was in the front row of idiocy, and VERY obstinate

[HAL-9000]

Originally Posted by msv

Yeah, I bet You´re right Jaeydee.
If You called me an idiot I would ask You WTF You´re meaning. As gentlemen (pistols, not flamethrowers) we would settle the thing out and be happy afterwards.
Being accused for an idiot doesn´t mean You have to act as one, but many people get pissed off by such an accusation, and pissed off people can behave like idiots without being idiots.
Of course, idiots are even more prone to behave like idiots.

I gave this thread a good thought before going to bed yesterday.
There´s a standard argument from the less enlighted sites with the dubious reviews:
"Our readers are not so technically experienced, so we can´t throw them a lot of scientific stuff."
The review flaming on this site never has questioned the competens of any sites *readers*, only the competens of some sites editors.
Back in first grade, primary school, I simply assumed that even if I wasn´t very good at reading that wouldn´t excuse an analfabet for a teacher. My low competens in a certain topic doesn´t mean it´s OK to teach me rubbish.
What´s worse:
1. A first class, primary school, teacher saying: "Yes, 'dog' is spelled d-o-u-g-h, very good."
or
2. Another person brutally slapping the same teacher in his/her neck and shouting into his/her ear: "No, godammit! 'Dog' is spelled d-o-g, You imbecill moron!"

regards
Mikael S.

I like your school analogy...that is very illustrative of the Procooling dilemna. But it also shows the easy answer: be nice and let hypothetical bad speller learn how to spell dog without screaming in their ear. Their response to that initial good-will is the metric that determines idiocy. If they say "Right on, now I know more than I did." Or even: "No, I think I'm still right, and here is why" says a lot about their seriousness in this business. Either they are glad to learn, or they think they know, and want a intellectual debate based on facts etc.

But then there is my favourite example...Liquid3D. Guy was talking out of every orifice on him barring the mouth about the TDX waterblock. When the review in question was brought up here...this guy showed up and got hostile. Lampooning ensued...dude started flaming phaestus in other forums, and dug a deeper and deeper hole for himself intellectually. Bona fide 100% USDA slice of fool right there. Guy should get into astrology, UFOlogy, cults, or some other pseudoscience, where facts rather than beliefs don't matter.

Idiots should be treated as such, once exposed through their own idiocy. But we shouldn't egg people on one way or the other to figure that out by name-calling/flaming first. Let their actions speak as the evidence without "tampering" with the experiment. That is the scientific method after all, and we all seem to dig and understand that here.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by unregistered

ah msv, the jd you know is reformed, was struck by lightning, 'saw the light'
2yrs ago (? jd ?) jd was in the front row of idiocy, and VERY obstinate

Sounds about right, maybe as soon as a year ago though. The light gets brighter as time passes aswell.

[BalefireX]

I'd just like to point out that the Porn option has moved into first place, and was wondering what actions are being taken to reflect these results?

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by BalefireX

I'd just like to point out that the Porn option has moved into first place, and was wondering what actions are being taken to reflect these results?

^^^^ What he said.

[satanicoo]

If, for any reason, this turns into a pr0n site, i want a free signup.
Hmm... I am signed up...

[pHaestus]

http://phaestus.procooling.com/temp/randi_ingerman.jpg

[BillA]

looks like a nice low maintenance model

[Tempus]

Originally Posted by unregistered

looks like a nice low maintenance model

when have you ever met a low maintenance woman?

[BillA]

the wax museum

[msv]

For the pr0n, check with this Emil guy if You can borrow some of his pics.

http://www.beepworld.de/members64/st...ueber-mich.htm

No, I do *not* know this guy personally!
regards
Mikael S.

[SlaterSpeed]

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