Epoxy instead of solder??? - Page 3

jaydee · 01-08-2002, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidCool
"Also note I am trying this on Aluminum and not Copper. I think Copper will be easier."

Um. You cant solder aluminum. You have to use a special braze for aluminum...

I have some Aluminum rods, and some Alumite solder, but it still dosn't work the way I would like it to, not even close to epoxy. I did successfully solder the aluminum block on top(I had to mill it off) but I could not get the cover to bond. I thought some car radiators where aluminum and they where soldered together?

Oh well, dosn't matter now anyway. I am going to try the O ring setup. Being my job has screwed up my plans I have more time to experiment.

LiquidCool · 01-08-2002, 08:11 PM

Two words...

Arc Welder

jaydee · 01-08-2002, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidCool
Two words...

Arc Welder

As I have all the equipment in the world at work to aluminum weld it dosn't do me much good here. And I don't have a place to store or use a welder here.

I don't really want to weld them on anymore anyway. I like the removable top idea. Just going to set me back a few weeks. And then I will probably working again anyway so it really doesn't matter.

I am going to try and get as many do it yourself projects done before then. I think I will make my site a guide site on how to build your own stuff. I will show people how to make fan controllers, water cooling systems, ect.... Being I am not really in this for the money anyway.

Got lots of work to do before I have to go back to work.

Brad · 01-08-2002, 08:25 PM

hehe, how many people have a welder?

Butcher · 01-08-2002, 10:56 PM

Sure you can, it's just harder. You can't solder Al to Cu though.

LiquidCool · 01-09-2002, 12:14 AM

I have a welder

cant do aluminum to well but I can do 1/4" steel.

I used to do fabrication on vehicles/bodywork/customizing. I could make anything lay flat on the ground for a 10 pack of tacos!

Butcher · 01-09-2002, 12:40 AM

Yeah, TIG weld the tops of your Al blocks on, that's be secure... hell you'd have to melt the block to get it off practically

Brad · 01-09-2002, 04:43 PM

LC, weld http://www.apple.com/imac to the ground, make the ****er perfectly flat

jaydee · 01-09-2002, 04:53 PM

Well the Epoxy idea is out the window!!! I was just up at webmedic's place and was tightening down the barbs on my test unit I was giving him and I didn't get the holes quite lined up and the barb pushed against the main block and pulled the top off!!!

Oh well, I got a few other things I am going to try anyway. The epoxy on the main block held it just didn't stick to the top peice. I should have applied it to both sides before putting it together. But this is just one example of how Epoxy can go wrong. There are a dozen other things that can easily make the top pop off.

Anyway I am going with the removable top idea anyway. I want to be able to clean the thing after a few months if need be!!!

To many ideas right now. I need to get to the fan controller project first so I have some content on my new site.

webmedic · 01-09-2002, 05:01 PM

I modified the design again after you left. I'll try to post a picture of it somewere if you would like to see it.

jaydee · 01-09-2002, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by webmedic
I modified the design again after you left. I'll try to post a picture of it somewere if you would like to see it.

Sure.

Brad · 01-09-2002, 05:51 PM

you might need screws or something then to hold it down instead of epoxy then. If I had the top come off on my block, I would not be happy

webmedic · 01-09-2002, 07:52 PM

Heres the picture.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...5177ZfLiTrIwpO

jaydee · 01-09-2002, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
you might need screws or something then to hold it down instead of epoxy then. If I had the top come off on my block, I would not be happy

I am going to add screws and use a O ring system instead.

Brad · 01-09-2002, 08:45 PM

yeah, screws don't come undone too easily. I'd still use the epoxy though..

01-08-2002, 10:56 PM	#55
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	Sure you can, it's just harder. You can't solder Al to Cu though. __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

01-09-2002, 12:40 AM	#57
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	Yeah, TIG weld the tops of your Al blocks on, that's be secure... hell you'd have to melt the block to get it off practically __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

01-08-2002, 08:11 PM	#52
LiquidCool Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 231	Two words... Arc Welder

01-08-2002, 08:25 PM	#54
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	hehe, how many people have a welder?

01-09-2002, 12:14 AM	#56
LiquidCool Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 231	I have a welder cant do aluminum to well but I can do 1/4" steel. I used to do fabrication on vehicles/bodywork/customizing. I could make anything lay flat on the ground for a 10 pack of tacos!

01-09-2002, 04:43 PM	#58
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	LC, weld http://www.apple.com/imac to the ground, make the ****er perfectly flat

01-09-2002, 04:53 PM	#59
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Well the Epoxy idea is out the window!!! I was just up at webmedic's place and was tightening down the barbs on my test unit I was giving him and I didn't get the holes quite lined up and the barb pushed against the main block and pulled the top off!!! Oh well, I got a few other things I am going to try anyway. The epoxy on the main block held it just didn't stick to the top peice. I should have applied it to both sides before putting it together. But this is just one example of how Epoxy can go wrong. There are a dozen other things that can easily make the top pop off. Anyway I am going with the removable top idea anyway. I want to be able to clean the thing after a few months if need be!!! To many ideas right now. I need to get to the fan controller project first so I have some content on my new site.

01-09-2002, 05:01 PM	#60
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	I modified the design again after you left. I'll try to post a picture of it somewere if you would like to see it.

01-09-2002, 05:51 PM	#62
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	you might need screws or something then to hold it down instead of epoxy then. If I had the top come off on my block, I would not be happy

01-09-2002, 07:52 PM	#63
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Heres the picture. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...5177ZfLiTrIwpO

01-09-2002, 08:45 PM	#65
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yeah, screws don't come undone too easily. I'd still use the epoxy though..

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