Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

[re3dyb0y]

I agree

Myself, like a lot of others picked them up (in some cases) for free from company's taking them out of action.

Mine sits on the side, usually not on....

[kcrossley]

Originally Posted by OzDave

Just as an FYI, I did try installing OSv4 and my Snap Server 2000 is now dead.All I can recommend to those who were thinking of upgrading:
DON"T UPGRADE TO SNAP OS v4

This is untrue. I'm using OS v4.0.860 on a hacked Snap Server 2000 with (2) 120 GB drives. It's been running great for 6 months!

Kelly

[re3dyb0y]

Yes, most people have been ok , but as it shows, some people have had problems

The hardware revision and the bios make a difference

OzDave is one of a few of us who are in the know.


Sam

[blue68f100]

Originally Posted by kcrossley

This is untrue. I'm using OS v4.0.860 on a hacked Snap Server 2000 with (2) 120 GB drives. It's been running great for 6 months!

Kelly

Kelly,

There are ways to recover, some what. You will need to backup to 4.0.855, this is a complete OS, not a patch. To see the snap again try doing reset to factory several times. I fould out by changing the hardware config (freshly formated fat32), net inteface would show up with assist after being on for 10 minutes. Then try to reinstall the software, through assist. You may also try installing the image file to the drive.

David

[kcrossley]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

Kelly,

There are ways to recover, some what. You will need to backup to 4.0.855, this is a complete OS, not a patch. To see the snap again try doing reset to factory several times. I fould out by changing the hardware config (freshly formated fat32), net inteface would show up with assist after being on for 10 minutes. Then try to reinstall the software, through assist. You may also try installing the image file to the drive.

David

I'm not sure I'm following you. My Snap Server is work fine, save the occassional file naming issues from using a Snap Server with the Mac OS X operating system.

Kelly

[blue68f100]

Originally Posted by kcrossley

I'm not sure I'm following you. My Snap Server is work fine, save the occassional file naming issues from using a Snap Server with the Mac OS X operating system.

Kelly

Opps,

Wrong post. This was for OzDave

I too use a old Mac with OS 9.1, NO Problems.

David

[Anubis]

i have web space 30gb on unlimted b/w i think it uploads at 512ksec well thats the max ispeed iv pullled off it at so as long as its a private distro i dont mind letting the space be used

[JPB]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

Opps,

Wrong post. This was for OzDave

I too use a old Mac with OS 9.1, NO Problems.

David

Since OS 9.x Apple made some great changes to the filesystems and AFP. OS9 still uses AFP version 2.x, all OS X use AFP v >3.1 - the latest is AFP 3.3 AFAIR. Some advantages are:
- support for filenames up to 255 chars
- support for filesize up to 2TB

SnapOS still uses 2.x or a crappy 3.0, the former developer Excel/Meridian Data, Inc. also uses AFP 3.0 which also lacks support for long filenames just the same as eg. Windows 2k/2003 (both use AFP 3.0). So IMHO neither Snap nor Excel/Meridian Data's NAS-devices can be used in a MacOS X enviroment though you might want to use smb or perhaps NFS (never tested with Snap). I still found no way to copy the files back, so SnapOS 4 is a pos regarding AFP and renders the device unusable in my case. I guess we will not use the 4100 any more. I'm quite sure that SnapOS is using netatalk 1.x and the developers (if there are any more) just refuse to use netatalk 2.x - which supports AFP 3.1 = long filenames etc.

Btw., Adaptec is looking for a new owner for their NAS department. No wonder why..

[re3dyb0y]

$100 dollars for it!

[blue68f100]

Don't over pay for the Snap Division?

Adaptec needs help if they want to keep clients.

Blue68F100

[dog_guy1990]

Hi ALL,
Can anyone help me with snap server 1000. I have a snap server 1000 my old 160GB HDD is dead. I got a new replaced. I removed old HDD and put new HDD in snap server it wont let me use snap asst or http://yourserver. Do i need install OS? if yes how?

[re3dyb0y]

You'll probably need to use an image to recreate the hard drive to make it snap compatible

[blue68f100]

Originally Posted by dog_guy1990

Hi ALL,
Can anyone help me with snap server 1000. I have a snap server 1000 my old 160GB HDD is dead. I got a new replaced. I removed old HDD and put new HDD in snap server it wont let me use snap asst or http://yourserver. Do i need install OS? if yes how?

Did you set the jumper on the drive to match the original, Master or CS.

Are you getting in activity with the disk, net, link lights on the front panel?

The 1000 is suppose to have the OS in flashram. After replacing the drive on restart, the snap should format and install the necessary system files. It takes about 10 minutes before you can access it, if it is seting up the drive. Do you by chance know which version of the OS you were using? Apparently you have a version 2 bios, and v4.0.? OS if you had full capacity.

David

[soundidea]

Thank you all for posting such interesting info.

I have a dead Snap 1000. The hard drive was failing and I replaced it in the network from where it came with a new 250GB 1100. Although I could not log on to the server, I was able to see it and copy the data to the new 1100 to provide the shared data in a 6 workstation peer-to-peer network.

This is the first NAS I have met and I like the genre.

I have not opened up the dead 1000 yet, but my tour through the forum has led me to believe that if I put in a new drive in it, will it boot and copy the OS to the hard drive?

Does the hard drive have to be formatted first or should I re-partition it first and not format it? I will be happy with a 120GB drive in it. Is a 7200 ATA133 drive fine?

Nelson

Originally Posted by blue68f100

Did you set the jumper on the drive to match the original, Master or CS.

Are you getting in activity with the disk, net, link lights on the front panel?

The 1000 is suppose to have the OS in flashram. After replacing the drive on restart, the snap should format and install the necessary system files. It takes about 10 minutes before you can access it, if it is seting up the drive. Do you by chance know which version of the OS you were using? Apparently you have a version 2 bios, and v4.0.? OS if you had full capacity.

David

[blue68f100]

Just install the drive, NO formating required. The snap1000 will take care of the formating and copying the system from flash to the hard drive. The Snap1100 does not have the system in flash. If it fails you will have to copy the boot trackes to another drive. I have seen some 2000 have problems, but come back after they cool off. Check to see if the coolling fan failed.

You said you were able to copy the data, I assume by putting the drive in another snap. Is this correct. If you copied the files from the snap1000, it has not completely given up.

David

[soundidea]

David,

Thanks for the response. The company that was using the 1000 reported inconsistant data access. I came in and could not logon to the 1000, but could access the folders via the workstations on the network. I tried to BU all the data, but the BU failed somewhere in the process. The hard drive on the 1000 was VERY noisy. I was able to copy the folders from the 1000 to the new 1100 and got them going. It took a long time! I hate to throw the 1000 away.

I have seen the posts about going beyond 32GB. I would like to put in a 120GB drive, get it to recognize the 32GB and then config it for the remainder.

Is a standard ATA133 7200 8MB cache Seagate Barracuda drive OK?

Nelson

[blue68f100]

If you have a v2 bios you can go beyound the 137gig barrier with v4 OS.
The snap WILL NOT WORK with ATA133. must be ATA100.

Do you know how to reset the admin password, using the reset button?
If you can log in as admin, look at the log file, see what kind of errors you are getting.

Depending on the age, your fan may be failing causing the unit to overheat. Which will cause errors. I got one so hot it fried the hard drives as well as the systemboard.

Remember the original hard drive is a 5400rpm, you will add more heat with a 7200.

David

[soundidea]

David,

Thanks for the ongoing info.

I reset the server (four clicks). Loaded the orig disk and snap assist found the server once past the workstation firewall.

SnapAssist sees the server and reports the Details:
IP: 192.168.0.2
Software: 2.2.393
Hardware: 3.1.1
DHCP, BOOTP, RARP: No
SN: 108360

but cannot reach the server at that address. My local subnet is at a different address, so I don't think it is an address conflict.

In W2K Pro, the server is not seen. Ditto for XP.

The web browser cannot reach either the snapSN or listed IP address.

Will a new drive make it all good?

I'll get a 5400 ATA100 drive. How big can it be with the hacking resources of the group?

Thanks again,

Nelson

[blue68f100]

To find out which version of bios you have, click in the upper left corner of the banner (SnapAppliance). It will popup a window with the info.

Did you do an initial setup?
DHCP requires NetBeu for it to work. Do a maunal setup and issue a static IP. It need to be stationary anyway.

David

[soundidea]

Hi David,

Although the Snap Assist can scan and see the server, it cannot connect for configuration. Ditto for web access. So I cannot get in to see the BIOS version. Nor configure!

Hopefully, a new drive will fix this. I am suspecting that the section of the drive that holds config info and OS for the Snap is bad.

Nelson

[blue68f100]

It's sound like the browser is reading cashed data. Reseting the server, sets the IP back to 0.0.0.0 . The older unit need NetBiue to set DHCP. The assist program will allow you to manually set it.

The net configuration settings are stored in flash. The HTML configuration screens can be accessed without any harddrives installed.

I sent you more detail in a private message.

David

[soundidea]

David,

Thanks for the help. I was able to reset the 1000 and assist v.4 was able to configure it. I have access to it now.

Snap 1000 specs:

Server # 108360
Software Version: 2.2.393
Hardware Version: 3.1.1
Bios Version: 2.1.363

I have a Seagate ATA100 200GB 7200 8MB cache drive on the way. 3.5" 5400 drives are not common and not as good a value when you can find them. The new 7200 drives are quieter and run cooler as the technology improves....hopefully it will not run hot! I will keep an eye on it and look at the fan/cooling state as I progress.

I have the upgrade info you sent and will tackle that after I get the drive installed and am limited to 32MB. Any tips are appreciated. It is nice to see it on the network again.

I will look for a used, more advanced Snap for my network as well. Any model suggestions?

Thanks again,

Nelson

[blue68f100]

If the cooling fan hasn't been replaced, it may be time. I think the 1000 use the same fan as the 2000 which is a Sunon KD1205PHB3, 52x52x15mm, 4300 rpm, 8.5 cfm, 0.7w, 22.5dba. The 52mm fans are harder to locate, just stay under 30 dba if you want it quite. I was able to fit in a 50mm with out any problems, since it only uses 2 mounting holes. The upgraded fan delivered 13cfm, with slighly more noise 28dba.

You will need to update the snapos, you are setting on version 2. Your bios >2 will allow for harddrives >137 gig. Your current os will limit you to 130 gig, remember there is some overhead for the os. V4 opens the door for larger drives. If you are not seeing full capacity of you current drive, you will need to issue "config devices format 10000 /reinit" from debug. The snap will restart then reformat the harddrive, you will have full capacity when it is completed.

As for updates, I would upgrade to v3.4.803 first. You can jump to v4 with out going through v3 if you like. Then up to v4.0.830. DO NOT UPGRADE TO V4.0.860. There are numerous reports that v4.0.860 turns the Snap1000 & 2000 into door stops, the 4.0.855 seams not to have the problem. Don't take the chance. If you replace the drive before doing the upgrade, you may have to issue the format /reinit cmd to gain full capacity.

As for replacement snaps. I prefer the raid versions 2200, 4100 etc .... The 2200 can run raid 0 & 1, where the 4100 have 0,1 & 5. The performance of the 2200 blows away the older 2000's. I run in redundacy (data protection) mode Raid 1. There is a fundamental difference between the early models and the later ones. All of the newer models store the OS on the hard drive, NO FLASHRAM, standard boot bios. If you have a harddisk failure (not in raid 1 or 5) you will have to copy the boot tracks to your new harddrive before installing it.

The 4X00 are rack mountable. MisterBill or poogles_uk can give you more detail on the 4X00. I only have the 2000 and 2200 model (600gig), with the 2000 dead right now.

David

[Raceit]

Hello all,
I have a Snap 1000 with a dead 40gb hard drive. The OS is on the hard drive and simply installing another drive does not work. I am in search of an image that I can put on a new bare hard drive.

I know in the previous posts there was talk about the ftp site going down, but I don't see where another one has been posted. Any help on getting an image for a Snap 1000 would be greatly appreciated. (Preferably with a newer OS so I can put a hard drive in larger then 137gb).

Thanks.

[blue68f100]

The OS is stored in flashram on the 1000 model. Make sure the drive you installed is set as master, and ATA100, the WD drives with ATA133 will have to be configured for ATA100, prior to installation. The snap will not talk to ATA133. Watch you activity lights on startup, It take about 10 minutes for the snap to copy the system files from flashram to the harddrive. You will not be able to access it while it is doing this. Then use assist or your browser to connect to the snap setup html. If you performed a reset to factory you will have to use Assist.

David