Please Help Me with My School Project (making waterblocks)

[pelle76]

This must be the most core for the money


The double heater core from Dangerden. Only 35$

Otherwise the smaller one is very popular. Goes for 30$

[Pears0]

Processor cores will b crap untill they start usin carbon istead of silicon. Carbon much lower electrical resistance so less heat. Can wait till i start microprocessor design n start designing processors usin nano tubes, w00t. The idea is currently been worked on at this very uni, in the same department that i study in. Coolio or wot?

[Cathar]

Originally Posted by killernoodle

My $68 1700+ is running at 3400+-3500+ speeds, plus the increase in FSB frequency speeds up the ram and other stuff as well....

Just thought I'd chime in. My watercooling $80 XP2500+ (they're probably cheaper than that now) is running at XP4000+ speeds (2.82GHz).

[Butcher]

Carbon isn't a semiconductor though...

[killernoodle]

Originally Posted by Cathar

Just thought I'd chime in. My watercooling $80 XP2500+ (they're probably cheaper than that now) is running at XP4000+ speeds (2.82GHz).

I need a 2500+

And a prommy

My comp hits a brick wall at 210fsb 12.5x multi, so I need to do a volt mod for the northbridge and get some mushkin black lvl.2.

Still though, it is not like my processor is standing still or something, and I make a pretty crappy income of $150 a week (and I buy a lot of other stuff), so I dont have the money to invest it all in my comp. (Highschool kid )

[Brians256]

Originally Posted by pelle76

The double heater core from Dangerden. Only 35$

Otherwise the smaller one is very popular. Goes for 30$

I just got a heatercore from Autozone for $25. Add two brass barbed fittings for $1.50 and epoxy for $2 and it works out to be $30. Cheaper and faster delivery.


Not that Dangerden's stuff is bad, mind you. I just prefer the single pass style. See my worklog, where I'm gathering stuff right now.
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=8782

[spartansith]

i can get a Eheim 1048 that has been used for 6 months, for prety cheap, should i get it, if so how much max should i give for it?

[superart]

Originally Posted by Brians256

I just got a heatercore from Autozone for $25. Add two brass barbed fittings for $1.50 and epoxy for $2 and it works out to be $30. Cheaper and faster delivery.

Whats that crazy fan?

Originally Posted by PearsO

Processor cores will b crap untill they start usin carbon istead of silicon. Carbon much lower electrical resistance so less heat. Can wait till i start microprocessor design n start designing processors usin nano tubes, w00t. The idea is currently been worked on at this very uni, in the same department that i study in. Coolio or wot?

What university are u going to?
Can you post some more info about that?
thanx

[BladeRunner]

Those rotron fans are pretty nice, got one a while back for someone in a US order, (You couldn't get them in the UK), nice... if you have to have a fan that is , I prefer something a little bigger



Also to avoid eye strain could you post a larger image next time

[Butcher]

Bladerunner, you can get comair rotron fans in the UK from www.rswww.com, they aren't cheap from there though. I managed to find a used 235 cfm 172mm model for £5 though. Wish I'd bought 3 or 4 of them now.

Cathar, how'd you get the bus high enough for that sort of speeds on a 2500+? Or is it unlocked?

[BladeRunner]

Can't remember how much it cost from the USA now, but when I say a while back I mean 6 Nov 2001 to be precise although radio spares are good for a lot of specialist items, now you mention it I don't think anything they sell strikes me as cheap

[spartansith]

well i can get that eheim 1048 along with a radiator that appears to be copper, they have been used for 6 months though, how much should i pay the guy tops for them?

[Pears0]

U dint need a semi conductor to make a processor, u just need an object that can be set to 1 of 2 states, and nano tubes can do that. Its new technollogy, and cool. First rials have prooved a processor of 80GHz!!!!!!! With no coolin what so ever.

I go to Birmingham University, England. Home to, Electronic engineering, the atom bomb, n so much stuff i aint even gonna bother sayin ne more.

These things aint gonna b on the shelves another 10 years yet. But a lot of work is been done in jepan and tiwan too! U wanna search round there, i cant get ne more access to info on it other than what i have allready said. But it sound damb cool!

[spartansith]

sounds nice, a CPU at 80ghz with no cooling, anything on a fsb it had?

any thoughts on my post above?

thnx, Laney

[bigben2k]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

Those rotron fans are pretty nice, got one a while back for someone in a US order, (You couldn't get them in the UK), nice... if you have to have a fan that is , I prefer something a little bigger



Also to avoid eye strain could you post a larger image next time

That's a Hayden fan. I just picked one up a couple of months back. They go for $60 USD and up (retail).

[Boli]

Hey bladerunner how can you call yourself a "zero fan zone" and then go and pull out that monster?

- now that is just extracting the urine

~ Boli

[superart]

Originally Posted by Boli

Hey bladerunner how can you call yourself a "zero fan zone" and then go and pull out that monster?

- now that is just extracting the urine

~ Boli

Well, the fan is in the shape of a zero, so if push comes to shove, he can always call himself Zero* fan zone
*Shaped

[nth1rty]

Originally Posted by killernoodle

You do realize that it has already been stated that the prescott will pump out 100-130 watts of heat? 90nm doesnt seem to be helping.

Either way, it is easier to understand the overclocking potential of the processors out today. When the new stuff comes out, it will be at least as expensive as the a64s are now, and the prices of the new stuff will go down. If you are a poor high school student (like me)...I wouldn't spring for the prescotts. You can find better deals if you know where to look. I got my intel mobo and proc (see sig) for $200 w/ winXP. There are many opinionated people on the boards who will cite specs for you, and explain why Northwood > Prescott, but that's just my 'sparknotes' 0.02.

Also, check out #rotors waterblock design. I've done some research, and it seems that it is the easiest way to make a quality waterblock. You can even do it with just a dremel. Just make sure that you get the mounting holes right for your new processor. Do a search for posts by rotor, you'll find it.

EDIT: DAMMIT! Again this post was supposed to go at the end of the last page. ><

[spartansith]

i think i will stick with the design i have some up with, nothing against #rotor blocks but i want something i have come up with. the presotts will use the P4 socket so my mounting holes should be fine, but later they are introducing the socket 775 which will mostlikely have different mounting, but my w/b is for the P4 socket.

thnx, Laney

[Brians256]

superart, the fan was correctly identified as a Comair Rotron. Just tried it out tonight at 24V (surprisingly quiet for the vast amounts of air being moved), 12V (not bad but it whines a bit) and 6V (twitches but does not move).

Bladerunner, sorry about the pic size. I'll try to shrink things, but I've been in a bit of a hurry so you get the raw pic from the camera (no post processing). Been trying to watch three kids, work enough to keep my job and then do something to keep my sanity (watercool). Yeah, yeah, excuses stink, but you get what you pay for.

As for YOUR fan, Bladerunner, where in the world did you get a DC fan of that size? I have several AC fans of that size (with fewer blades), but nothing that I'd be able to slow down to a tolerable noise. Are you using that on an outside radiator!?

Now, as for the carbon circuits... that 80GHz was not a full CPU. It was a set of test circuits. As far as I've read, researchers cannot yet make a design with that process that can support 100 million transistors yet. The next set of materials being really looked at for any near-future mass-production is Silicon-Germanium. Anything with carbon is at least 15 years out, not 10. It's not just knowing how to make something. It's also knowing how to make ten million of them at a profit, and that takes a significant infrastructure that includes a rather vast supply chain of material vendors, tool vendors, etc... Fun research, though.

[Pears0]

Originally Posted by Brians256

Now, as for the carbon circuits... that 80GHz was not a full CPU. It was a set of test circuits. As far as I've read, researchers cannot yet make a design with that process that can support 100 million transistors yet. The next set of materials being really looked at for any near-future mass-production is Silicon-Germanium. Anything with carbon is at least 15 years out, not 10. It's not just knowing how to make something. It's also knowing how to make ten million of them at a profit, and that takes a significant infrastructure that includes a rather vast supply chain of material vendors, tool vendors, etc... Fun research, though.

Even more fun if I can get on the reaserch team for my finnal in 4 years. About time. It could really depend, quite often this early on, its hard to tell. Who knows wot kinda huge breake throughs (or not) they could have. It can so easily vary between nethin from 10 to 30 years b4 the procs come out on he market for us. But I might get lucky n b given 1 2 test at home if I get on the team. A free processor at 80GHz. I think that will beat nethin on here for value for money, lol.

[spartansith]

well i have compleated my design and ordered my copper 110 chunck. the only thing is that i dont know how thick the base should be at its smallest point, also how deep should my holes be that i use for the jet inpendjement, and how tall should my fins be that are 1mm wide? i think thats all and ill get a pic up on what it looks like when its finished, which will be a while, ill probably start a new thead for it though since it is compleated.

thnx for all yalls help and time,
Laney

[iakovl]

Holly Shit BladeRunner
what fan is it? and where can i find this beast , how much CFM?

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by iakovl

Holly Shit BladeRunner
what fan is it? and where can i find this beast , how much CFM?

I lost this topic somehow....


Quote from topics in this forum a while back:-

"Well I thought if I must be forced to use a proper rad & fan, lets be really silly about it

I'm using a large JCB tractor rad, (about 20" X 20" X 2.5" with a 16" Kenlow fan @ 3v and it keeps my coolant at 2C to 3C above room temp, (at 15v it will keep near as damn it to room ambient, but everything ends up on the other side of the room, and my ears start to bleed ). If I turn the fan off the coolant will get to around 8C above ambient eventually before stabilising.

The Kenlowe fan will be used on a car at some point, (as that's what it's designed for, additional cooling if towing, or for custom cars... big V8's in smaller bays etc).

If you want a fan like that, a cheaper option is your local car dismantlers. Just about every front wheel drive car has 1 or two fans like that on the Rad, (but they may not look quite as sexy as the kenlowe)

It's supposed to be 12v but I've been running it at 3v, 5v & 7v for a month and it has no start up problems at any of those voltages, nor has it appeared to affect it. It uses 2.4 amps @ 3v, 3.2 amps @ 4v and 4amps @ 5v. While it couldn't ever be classed as near silent, Its pretty quiet @ 3v under the desk... just a soft woosh... quite soothing actually.....wouldn't want it right next to my ear though I'm going to put it and the rad in the loft soon, (was 6C up there last night) "

Here's the rad and fan (I included a few small items, CD Rom / HDD... for size indication ):-






The rad & pump are up in the loft now and I have silence again, with cpu @ 15°C .... It's just a temporary measure as I know the loft space will be hot in the summer, hopefully by then I'll have another ground cooling system in place

[iakovl]

WOW
what hardware, thinking "small".
lol