New design idea. - Page 5

Volenti · 04-15-2003, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by hara
I also noticed that you were austailian, the company was also australian. I also noticed the L.E.Ds. It's your signiture. Why did you steal Ben's idea?

Ben's idea? this multiple jet approach is an evolution of my direct die cooling from last year if anything it's #Rotor's drilled blocks that I've used elements of.

Props for Big ben for publishing a similar design principle that I was working on behind closed doors.

bigben2k · 04-15-2003, 09:06 AM

Hey, no harm done!

But it was meant as a DIY design, because it's so simple to make. If you can sell it for ~$80-90 USD, all the best!

I need to get into that myself. Maybe I'll bug the resellers of JFettig's work.

Volenti · 04-15-2003, 09:17 AM

Well I'll have to let the market decide if that is the right price

Your Radius block should be a good seller if it can be made cost effectively.

Gulp35 · 04-15-2003, 09:24 AM

So what do you think I could get when using 2 maxijets in serial?

Also I have a 1"x1"x1/8" peice of silver that I could use but it is too small for mounting bolts through to use a gasket, could i use JB Weld or somehting Similar to bond them together?

bigben2k · 04-15-2003, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Volenti
Well I'll have to let the market decide if that is the right price

Your Radius block should be a good seller if it can be made cost effectively.

I doubt it could be made cost effective, plus it will require a very strong pump. I dunno. Maybe I could sell it as a kit, if I can get a machine shop to make this thing locally.

I want to start a website first, and post a lot of info.

bigben2k · 04-15-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Gulp35
So what do you think I could get when using 2 maxijets in serial?

Also I have a 1"x1"x1/8" peice of silver that I could use but it is too small for mounting bolts through to use a gasket, could i use JB Weld or somehting Similar to bond them together?

Extending the mounts isn't a big problem: use a polycarb top. As for sealing the block... I'd go with a 2 part epoxy that'll bond with the silver, and the polycarb (or acrylic). I'm not sure if JB Weld can do that. Anyone?

hara · 04-15-2003, 04:16 PM

I don't know if this has been discussed below. Idea #1 involves a clunk of copper, lathed and the dimples or holes point inwards. A top piece has to be lathed to fit the base. This design is unecessarily complex but interesting.

Idea #2 involves a block of copper with the dimples drilled at an angle. These can be drilled using a drill press and round feed table or with a 4-axis cns with round feed table or a 5 axis cnc

The top needn't match the angle of the base in idea #2

bigben2k · 04-15-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by hara
I don't know if this has been discussed below. Idea #1 involves a clunk of copper, lathed and the dimples or holes point inwards. A top piece has to be lathed to fit the base. This design is unecessarily complex but interesting.

Idea #2 involves a block of copper with the dimples drilled at an angle. These can be drilled using a drill press and round feed table or with a 4-axis cns with round feed table or a 5 axis cnc

The top needn't match the angle of the base in idea #2

Start your own thread

hara · 04-15-2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Start your own thread

It's just a continuation of your own idea, doesn't deserve a new thread

If you want, I can delete it

bigben2k · 04-15-2003, 04:39 PM

...but this is a DIY design: keep it simple, OK?

hara · 04-15-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
...but this is a DIY design: keep it simple, OK?

Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.

Puzzdre · 04-15-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by hara
Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.

Pffft, my has 5.1 axis, actually .1 means it can travel through time, usually from the time of raw material straight to the time when I already messed it up and it's useless.

Should I disable the feature, or just go back to my drill press (no round feed table here)...

jaydee · 04-15-2003, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by hara
Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.

Mine is only 3 axis...

LiquidRulez · 04-15-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Puzzdre
Pffft, my has 5.1 axis, actually .1 means it can travel through time, usually from the time of raw material straight to the time when I already messed it up and it's useless.

Should I disable the feature, or just go back to my drill press (no round feed table here)...

LMFAO!

A time travelling mill!!

Almost had a heart attack on that one!!

JFettig · 04-16-2003, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Hey, no harm done!

But it was meant as a DIY design, because it's so simple to make. If you can sell it for ~$80-90 USD, all the best!

I need to get into that myself. Maybe I'll bug the resellers of JFettig's work.

I didnt exactly catch that...? now Im confused....

Jon

bigben2k · 04-16-2003, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by JFettig
I didnt exactly catch that...? now Im confused....

Aren't a couple of your designs up for sale over the web? I could have sworn I've seen them recently.

JFettig · 04-19-2003, 01:46 PM

oh yeah, one is kinda

casemod hasnt really sold any though

they got 6 made for them and 6 for me, I sold 4 of mine

thats about it. they arent super blocks, but are pretty good...

Im working on some good blocks. I have to order some copper so I can get to work on a copper proto(aluminum blocks dont outperform copper blocks by much

Jon

Gulp35 · 04-24-2003, 07:00 PM

It uses 10 nozzels 1/16" in diameter, the bottom dimples are 3/16" in diameter, The red area under the nozzle diagram is the CPU core and the Dark red is 2mm away from the edge of the CPU core.

I'm gonna buy this once I get some copper (1/8" thick) and buy my pumps (2 maxijet1200s)

EDIT: To get the pic to work, right click it, and choose properties. then copy and paste the URL into your nav bar. Sorry about the inconvieniece :EDIT

http://www.helmetofshame.com/vanderc.../honeycomb.jpg

bigben2k · 04-25-2003, 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Gulp35
I'm gonna buy this once I get some copper (1/8" thick) and buy my pumps (2 maxijet1200s)

The pic didn't work for me, but otherwise, that's the way to go!

Gulp35 · 05-09-2003, 01:12 PM

updated my pics they now work when you click on the link

bigben2k · 05-09-2003, 01:25 PM

Nice! I'd still like to see an outlet scheme that's not going to obstruct or interfere with the jets though.

Cathar · 05-09-2003, 05:46 PM

Here's my first draft of what I was talking about in the 3rd post in this thread.

BigBen2K, you wanted a design that doesn't interfere with the jets - then just wait 1 week and I'll show you a working design. Already got it mapped out and on its way to the machinists.

This current block performs within about 1.0C of the White Water and I know how to make it go a lot better.

Rayman2k2 · 05-09-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Cathar
Here's my first draft of what I was talking about in the 3rd post in this thread.

BigBen2K, you wanted a design that doesn't interfere with the jets - then just wait 1 week and I'll show you a working design. Already got it mapped out and on its way to the machinists.

This current block performs within about 1.0C of the White Water and I know how to make it go a lot better.

oooooh man....god dammit....you took my idea of the holes.....dammit.....

.........and i thought i was gonna be original.........man this stinks.

Rayman2k2 · 05-09-2003, 08:33 PM

DAMMIT i didnt even know the WHOLE thread is based on dimples....shucks...

jaydee · 05-09-2003, 08:55 PM

I came up with a similar block long ago. REV 1.0. I always belived the dimples where a good thing. Best of all easy to make.

Then I got side tracked on what ended up to be REV. 4.0.

Mill will be setup soon... Might actually be able to make a block or two in a month or so.

04-15-2003, 09:06 AM	#102
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Hey, no harm done! But it was meant as a DIY design, because it's so simple to make. If you can sell it for ~$80-90 USD, all the best! I need to get into that myself. Maybe I'll bug the resellers of JFettig's work. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-15-2003, 09:17 AM	#103
Volenti Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: in a nice cool spot Posts: 427	Well I'll have to let the market decide if that is the right price Your Radius block should be a good seller if it can be made cost effectively. __________________ feel free to icq/msn me, I'm always willing to toss around ideas.

04-15-2003, 09:24 AM	#104
Gulp35 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 135	So what do you think I could get when using 2 maxijets in serial? Also I have a 1"x1"x1/8" peice of silver that I could use but it is too small for mounting bolts through to use a gasket, could i use JB Weld or somehting Similar to bond them together? __________________ Epox 8RDA+ v1.1----------Tyan K8SDPro 1700+ JUIHB 0310XPMW (12.5x200Mhz@1.792v)--------2xOpteron246 (2Ghz 1MB L2) 2x256MB Kingston PC3000 (BH5?) 2-2-2-8 2.7v---2x512MB Corsair Reg.&ECC PC3200 ATi Radeon 9800Pro (stock, too hot)-----ATI RageXL WD800JB+WD2500JB-------WD1600JD Sony DVD/CDRW-------NEC 3520A Black Forton350W--------Antec TruePower2.0 550W EPS12v

04-15-2003, 04:39 PM	#110
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	...but this is a DIY design: keep it simple, OK? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-24-2003, 07:00 PM	#118
Gulp35 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 135	My adaptation to BB2k/Volenti Design It uses 10 nozzels 1/16" in diameter, the bottom dimples are 3/16" in diameter, The red area under the nozzle diagram is the CPU core and the Dark red is 2mm away from the edge of the CPU core. I'm gonna buy this once I get some copper (1/8" thick) and buy my pumps (2 maxijet1200s) EDIT: To get the pic to work, right click it, and choose properties. then copy and paste the URL into your nav bar. Sorry about the inconvieniece :EDIT http://www.helmetofshame.com/vanderc.../honeycomb.jpg __________________ Epox 8RDA+ v1.1----------Tyan K8SDPro 1700+ JUIHB 0310XPMW (12.5x200Mhz@1.792v)--------2xOpteron246 (2Ghz 1MB L2) 2x256MB Kingston PC3000 (BH5?) 2-2-2-8 2.7v---2x512MB Corsair Reg.&ECC PC3200 ATi Radeon 9800Pro (stock, too hot)-----ATI RageXL WD800JB+WD2500JB-------WD1600JD Sony DVD/CDRW-------NEC 3520A Black Forton350W--------Antec TruePower2.0 550W EPS12v Last edited by Gulp35; 04-25-2003 at 06:54 AM.

04-19-2003, 01:46 PM	#117
JFettig Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Willmar MN/Fargo ND Posts: 504	oh yeah, one is kinda casemod hasnt really sold any though they got 6 made for them and 6 for me, I sold 4 of mine thats about it. they arent super blocks, but are pretty good... Im working on some good blocks. I have to order some copper so I can get to work on a copper proto(aluminum blocks dont outperform copper blocks by much Jon

05-09-2003, 01:12 PM	#120
Gulp35 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 135	updated my pics they now work when you click on the link __________________ Epox 8RDA+ v1.1----------Tyan K8SDPro 1700+ JUIHB 0310XPMW (12.5x200Mhz@1.792v)--------2xOpteron246 (2Ghz 1MB L2) 2x256MB Kingston PC3000 (BH5?) 2-2-2-8 2.7v---2x512MB Corsair Reg.&ECC PC3200 ATi Radeon 9800Pro (stock, too hot)-----ATI RageXL WD800JB+WD2500JB-------WD1600JD Sony DVD/CDRW-------NEC 3520A Black Forton350W--------Antec TruePower2.0 550W EPS12v

05-09-2003, 01:25 PM	#121
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Nice! I'd still like to see an outlet scheme that's not going to obstruct or interfere with the jets though. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-09-2003, 05:46 PM	#122
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	First draft Here's my first draft of what I was talking about in the 3rd post in this thread. BigBen2K, you wanted a design that doesn't interfere with the jets - then just wait 1 week and I'll show you a working design. Already got it mapped out and on its way to the machinists. This current block performs within about 1.0C of the White Water and I know how to make it go a lot better.

05-09-2003, 08:33 PM	#124
Rayman2k2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 190	DAMMIT i didnt even know the WHOLE thread is based on dimples....shucks... __________________ -Insert Signature Here-

05-09-2003, 08:55 PM	#125
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	I came up with a similar block long ago. REV 1.0. I always belived the dimples where a good thing. Best of all easy to make. Then I got side tracked on what ended up to be REV. 4.0. Mill will be setup soon... Might actually be able to make a block or two in a month or so.

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