(follow up) Would you be willing to cut into your CPU socket? - Page 5

jaydee · 08-31-2003, 11:09 AM

RoboTech, not sure if this is what your looking for:

http://www.exhaustgas.com/accuracy.htm

http://www.veriteq.com/html/vrtq2700-accuracy.htm

RoboTech · 08-31-2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaydee116
RoboTech, not sure if this is what your looking for:

Well I'm not sure either...

pHaestus stated earlier in this thread that "thermocouples are ok if type T but the K series are not so great". Since this thread is talking about accurately measuring CPU temps in regards to testing various cooling solutions, I would assume that he is implying that type T thermocouples are superior to type K...

So my question is: what are the limitations with type K and the advantages of type T?

So far I have not seen any compelling evidence for type T - yes, they have a much smaller temp range, are more corrosion resistant, and may be more accurate at sub-zero temps, but how is that an advantage for the PC enthusiast/tester?

I use type K thermocouples in most of my testing gear. In most cases the bi-metal junction is sealed against the environment so corrosion has never been a problem. I'm just wondering if I'm missing something and should maybe be looking at type T in the future - but before I do, I want some substantiated evidence to convince me...

So far, I have seen several documents but no compelling evidence to switch???

Thanks jaydee116,

Teus · 09-04-2003, 03:36 PM

a friend will bring a dead socket A board to school tomorrow, I'll mod and swap the removable ZIF socket thingie with the one on my KR7A-R. I'll place a senfu digital thermometer under the CPU.

Should I just tape the diode to the bottom of the CPU, or are there better ways?

bigben2k · 09-04-2003, 03:46 PM

linky!

Joe · 09-04-2003, 04:03 PM

SENFU!!! I havent heard their name mentioned in ages

The first mass marketed shit cooling system

pHaestus · 09-04-2003, 04:39 PM

I always thought their block design made sense with that old kit. Needed more girth in the hose department though (just like those complaining about voiding warranties

)

j3rkoff · 09-05-2003, 03:09 PM

In the second method shown where you 'pop the top' off the socket, I wouldn't mind doing that. The fact that you can do it w/ a ginsu makes it that much easier (and funnier, GINSUMOD HAI!), although I'd probably still use my dremel just for the hell of it. It also seems like there would be no long-term downfalls to it (proc. not level, etc). It seems like the process is kind of like popping the shim off the 9700 pro, in terms of socket removal in that pic.

I've soldered on my board (epox 8rda+, learned how from amdmb.com forums

), vid card too, and it's easy, besides the fact that the same soldering job can take 5 to 30 minutes for me, because of my shoddy technique (I haven't fried anything yet

)

AndrewC · 09-15-2003, 09:28 PM

I'm new here but was wondering if anyone has tried to install the thermal probe wires between the socket and the motherboard like AMD recommends in the data sheet(here )? Specifically figure 15 on page 25.

jaydee · 09-15-2003, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewC
I'm new here but was wondering if anyone has tried to install the thermal probe wires between the socket and the motherboard like AMD recommends in the data sheet(here )? Specifically figure 15 on page 25.

Nice catch. I am looking at one of my dead mobo's and there might actually be enough clearance to do this. I am sure different boards very but this Epox 8K7A looks as if it migh work. I don't have wire small enough to try though.

killernoodle · 01-15-2004, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus

I can't believe there are four pansies out there that wouldn't take tools to a motherboard. You people probably don't even give CPUs 2V+

Bah

When volt mods go wrong...

I fried my NF7 this week when checking the VDD mod I did a while back for consistency. It was running at exactly 2.0v, which is great, but then the multimeter slipped......

I shorted what looked like a mosfet for the southbridge, and the comp restarted and the southbridge got REALLY hot. The comp didnt POST so there was a problem.

Now, every time I turn on the comp the southbrige gets boiling hot within about 20 seconds and nothing happens. It got so hot initially that it caused the heatsink I had thermal taped on there to fall off. Not fun.

Luckily, I just got a raise so I bought myself an AN7. Great! Another board to fry the living crap out of.

W00T Abit

Oh, and for added "stability"

I usually run 2.1v just because I can

killernoodle · 02-07-2004, 09:34 AM

^ why does it keep posting that message? I dont get it.

jaydee · 02-08-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killernoodle

^ why does it keep posting that message? I dont get it.

Someone voted so it bumped it.

Sheep · 06-21-2004, 01:26 AM

lol, wasnt expecting a result like that for this site! Basicaly just over half of a PROcooling forum WONT cut a little bit of plastic. I might have expected a result like that for soldering you mobo or sumpn but cutting your socket! come on guys!!!

Groth · 06-21-2004, 01:42 AM

What the vote translates to is: 59 ProCoolers and 69 Wannabees. :shrug:

pHaestus · 07-02-2004, 12:31 PM

or 59 honest people and 69 overclockers who still try to RMA stuff after beating on it

View Poll Results: Would you chop your CPU socket?
Yes	63	46.32%
No	73	53.68%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

08-31-2003, 11:09 AM	#101
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	RoboTech, not sure if this is what your looking for: http://www.exhaustgas.com/accuracy.htm http://www.veriteq.com/html/vrtq2700-accuracy.htm Last edited by jaydee116; 08-31-2003 at 11:15 AM.

09-04-2003, 03:46 PM	#104
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	linky! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

09-04-2003, 04:03 PM	#105
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	SENFU!!! I havent heard their name mentioned in ages The first mass marketed shit cooling system __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

09-05-2003, 03:09 PM	#107
j3rkoff Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 50	In the second method shown where you 'pop the top' off the socket, I wouldn't mind doing that. The fact that you can do it w/ a ginsu makes it that much easier (and funnier, GINSUMOD HAI!), although I'd probably still use my dremel just for the hell of it. It also seems like there would be no long-term downfalls to it (proc. not level, etc). It seems like the process is kind of like popping the shim off the 9700 pro, in terms of socket removal in that pic. I've soldered on my board (epox 8rda+, learned how from amdmb.com forums ), vid card too, and it's easy, besides the fact that the same soldering job can take 5 to 30 minutes for me, because of my shoddy technique (I haven't fried anything yet ) Last edited by j3rkoff; 09-05-2003 at 04:47 PM.

09-04-2003, 03:36 PM	#103
Teus Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belgium\Ieper Posts: 65	a friend will bring a dead socket A board to school tomorrow, I'll mod and swap the removable ZIF socket thingie with the one on my KR7A-R. I'll place a senfu digital thermometer under the CPU. Should I just tape the diode to the bottom of the CPU, or are there better ways?

09-04-2003, 04:39 PM	#106
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I always thought their block design made sense with that old kit. Needed more girth in the hose department though (just like those complaining about voiding warranties )

09-15-2003, 09:28 PM	#108
AndrewC Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: US Posts: 5	I'm new here but was wondering if anyone has tried to install the thermal probe wires between the socket and the motherboard like AMD recommends in the data sheet(here )? Specifically figure 15 on page 25.

02-07-2004, 09:34 AM	#111
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	^ why does it keep posting that message? I dont get it. __________________ I have a nice computer.

06-21-2004, 01:26 AM	#113
Sheep Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: new zealand Posts: 11	lol, wasnt expecting a result like that for this site! Basicaly just over half of a PROcooling forum WONT cut a little bit of plastic. I might have expected a result like that for soldering you mobo or sumpn but cutting your socket! come on guys!!!

06-21-2004, 01:42 AM	#114
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	What the vote translates to is: 59 ProCoolers and 69 Wannabees. :shrug:

07-02-2004, 12:31 PM	#115
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	or 59 honest people and 69 overclockers who still try to RMA stuff after beating on it __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

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