Two pumps config - serial or paralell? - Page 7

Puzzdre · 11-09-2002, 04:50 PM

Thx m8!

Yeah, AMD is my way...kinda like it...(cost effective too!!!)

We're kinda outta sync here

with posts...

Think I'll have to try to learn drawing in ACad... who knows, maybe CNC'ing in few yr's...

(hope, hope...)

#Rotor · 11-09-2002, 04:52 PM

http://www.galaxydrill.com/drillsiz.htm

you will need to know the spec on the thread of the bolts.....

I most definitely do not just bolt the two plates together dry, it'l leake like a siv in that fashion..... there can only be GOOP.

but be careful with GOOP... it sticks like shit. you are going to have a real hard time getting the block open, once it's cured. the best way to pop it, is the use the tap, and screw it all the way into one of the fitting-threads, then just gently tighten, until it pops open, once that's done you can get a knive in and work the rest..... but for doing just from the side.... forget it... you are just going to ruine the side of your block....

Puzzdre · 11-09-2002, 04:57 PM

Wow! That was fast info and answer to my both questions!

Thx guys!

g.l.amour · 11-09-2002, 04:58 PM

the goop everyone in us is referring to, what the hell is it? some sort of glue, or silicone?

i'm gonna try finding some small shops. church ornament machiners seem to be the best bet upto now (i was amazed to find out)

btw for finding the barbs, i had to think and search. i was ready to do 150km's just to get 'em. finally it dawned on me that i could also chk the hydraulics and pneumatics store 100m from my work. eureka, barbs a volonté.

Puzzdre · 11-09-2002, 05:04 PM

First thing on monday - repair the flat tire and search for some hydraulics shops!

THX!

About the goop, I was about to ask the same question. It's a trade name, there are different kinds for different materials, but what is it (monocomponent/two component glue, epoxy, silicone, what?)!?

g.l.amour · 11-09-2002, 05:13 PM

i think the bathroom kind of silicone sealant must also work for that purpose.

btw puzzdre, ppl that sell brewery equipment are sure to have barbs, the lines that connect the beer tap in cafe to vat in basement 'can' be the regular hose barb type. one golden tip!!! print a picture from a hose barb, + the npt" and regular " list of what u want. because i don't know the cro word for hosebard, but i surely don't know the dutch word for it. and if u ask a regular hometown shop, they will definetely not know the word hosebarb. that expression went something like this; one picture shows more than a thousand words? lol

Puzzdre · 11-09-2002, 05:28 PM

LOOOOL!!!!!!

I know *exactly*what you mean. There is no widely used cro word for hosebarb, so first it involved lots of other words and wriggly movements of hand trying to explain, so I bought one cheap pvc ordinary pipe fitting and carried it around with me, and asking for something like this, but metal, with threaded end, and ofcourse, bigger ID...Gained much more success judging the faces of the people working in shops, but the answers were all the same - sorry, no...and You won't find it, go to the machine shop, have them make some for you...

Yeah, different countries, same problems

g.l.amour · 11-09-2002, 05:57 PM

btw, its been 2.5 yrs since i was using acad. this is pure fun. THX puzzdre for making me do this old passtime of mine again. in graduate school i used to have 6hrs/week acad for 3 yrs. worked 3 yrs doing acad cnc window arch designs + the cnc prg's to make those windows (wood), before moving to PC world.

#Rotor · 11-09-2002, 06:53 PM

Goop is a lot like silicone, it cures in open air, and it's very very strong once dry, so much so, that if you put goop into the groove ment for the o-ring, squeeze it shut, and let it cure, you will have yourself a nicely shaped, very strong elastic band. that is if you can get it to come out of the groove nicely....

Silicone work very well for sealing the blocks too, but I prefer Goop.

g.l.amour · 11-09-2002, 07:09 PM

don't u get bored from hearing all the thk uz? well here's another one. thx

Puzzdre · 11-10-2002, 05:51 AM

Until I have pic (later), I must say this: Drilling the holes in square pattern was fun. The result looks very nice. Drilling the holes in circular pattern was also fun. The result is somehow nicer and thrilling. Connecting the holes in square pattern was PITA but fun. Result will be pictured later. Connecting the holes in circular pattern is MAJOR PITA /#$$%#$@$#VERY VERY HARSH WORDS SPOKEN IN LOUDEST VOICE ##$%%##$@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!/

Now, do I remember somebody told me something about that?

Yes, I do.

GRRRRRRRRR...

Sorry, just had to take it outta myself, there's no point yelling to a cat...

MadDogMe · 11-10-2002, 07:12 AM

Quote:

yes I cut all my blocks with the Dremel. those metal cutting disks are nice but they are too thick and the diameter on them is too big. Makes it impossible to get close enough o the sides without cutting into the sealing surface around the outside...

They come in very small diametres (12mm~upwards if I remember) with a thickness of 0.5mm upwards. the arbour/holder that normal Dremel wheels use would work with them would it not?...

g.l.amour · 11-10-2002, 10:28 AM

is it that hard to dremel in copper? i mean, i think i've dremeled 20mtrs through steel for my latest case. its not all that much fun, but doable.

Puzzdre · 11-10-2002, 11:24 AM

Dremeling in copper is disc consuming. Wearing of those discs is great. Also, controlling the cut to be straight is not-so-easy. The diameter of the discs don't allow you to cut the connections between the last row and column (outer 'rim' of holes) without hurting the area without holes (outer full copper space), as #Rotor explained. I tried to make it with 1.2 and 1.5 mm mill bit, but I'm not so satisfied with the result.
Here:

Puzzdre · 11-10-2002, 11:26 AM

Sorry for bad pic, but I cannot scan it better...

In detail:

11-09-2002, 04:50 PM	#91
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Thx m8! Yeah, AMD is my way...kinda like it...(cost effective too!!!) We're kinda outta sync here with posts... Think I'll have to try to learn drawing in ACad... who knows, maybe CNC'ing in few yr's... (hope, hope...) __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-09-2002, 04:52 PM	#92
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	http://www.galaxydrill.com/drillsiz.htm you will need to know the spec on the thread of the bolts..... I most definitely do not just bolt the two plates together dry, it'l leake like a siv in that fashion..... there can only be GOOP. but be careful with GOOP... it sticks like shit. you are going to have a real hard time getting the block open, once it's cured. the best way to pop it, is the use the tap, and screw it all the way into one of the fitting-threads, then just gently tighten, until it pops open, once that's done you can get a knive in and work the rest..... but for doing just from the side.... forget it... you are just going to ruine the side of your block.... __________________ There is no Spoon....

11-09-2002, 04:57 PM	#93
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Wow! That was fast info and answer to my both questions! Thx guys! __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-09-2002, 05:04 PM	#95
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	First thing on monday - repair the flat tire and search for some hydraulics shops! THX! About the goop, I was about to ask the same question. It's a trade name, there are different kinds for different materials, but what is it (monocomponent/two component glue, epoxy, silicone, what?)!? __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-09-2002, 05:28 PM	#97
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	LOOOOL!!!!!! I know exactlywhat you mean. There is no widely used cro word for hosebarb, so first it involved lots of other words and wriggly movements of hand trying to explain, so I bought one cheap pvc ordinary pipe fitting and carried it around with me, and asking for something like this, but metal, with threaded end, and ofcourse, bigger ID...Gained much more success judging the faces of the people working in shops, but the answers were all the same - sorry, no...and You won't find it, go to the machine shop, have them make some for you... Yeah, different countries, same problems __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-09-2002, 04:58 PM	#94
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	the goop everyone in us is referring to, what the hell is it? some sort of glue, or silicone? i'm gonna try finding some small shops. church ornament machiners seem to be the best bet upto now (i was amazed to find out) btw for finding the barbs, i had to think and search. i was ready to do 150km's just to get 'em. finally it dawned on me that i could also chk the hydraulics and pneumatics store 100m from my work. eureka, barbs a volonté.

11-09-2002, 05:13 PM	#96
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	i think the bathroom kind of silicone sealant must also work for that purpose. btw puzzdre, ppl that sell brewery equipment are sure to have barbs, the lines that connect the beer tap in cafe to vat in basement 'can' be the regular hose barb type. one golden tip!!! print a picture from a hose barb, + the npt" and regular " list of what u want. because i don't know the cro word for hosebard, but i surely don't know the dutch word for it. and if u ask a regular hometown shop, they will definetely not know the word hosebarb. that expression went something like this; one picture shows more than a thousand words? lol

11-09-2002, 05:57 PM	#98
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	btw, its been 2.5 yrs since i was using acad. this is pure fun. THX puzzdre for making me do this old passtime of mine again. in graduate school i used to have 6hrs/week acad for 3 yrs. worked 3 yrs doing acad cnc window arch designs + the cnc prg's to make those windows (wood), before moving to PC world.

11-09-2002, 06:53 PM	#99
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	Goop is a lot like silicone, it cures in open air, and it's very very strong once dry, so much so, that if you put goop into the groove ment for the o-ring, squeeze it shut, and let it cure, you will have yourself a nicely shaped, very strong elastic band. that is if you can get it to come out of the groove nicely.... Silicone work very well for sealing the blocks too, but I prefer Goop. __________________ There is no Spoon....

11-09-2002, 07:09 PM	#100
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	don't u get bored from hearing all the thk uz? well here's another one. thx

11-10-2002, 05:51 AM	#101
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Until I have pic (later), I must say this: Drilling the holes in square pattern was fun. The result looks very nice. Drilling the holes in circular pattern was also fun. The result is somehow nicer and thrilling. Connecting the holes in square pattern was PITA but fun. Result will be pictured later. Connecting the holes in circular pattern is MAJOR PITA /#$$%#$@$#VERY VERY HARSH WORDS SPOKEN IN LOUDEST VOICE ##$%%##$@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!/ Now, do I remember somebody told me something about that? Yes, I do. GRRRRRRRRR... Sorry, just had to take it outta myself, there's no point yelling to a cat... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-10-2002, 10:28 AM	#103
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	is it that hard to dremel in copper? i mean, i think i've dremeled 20mtrs through steel for my latest case. its not all that much fun, but doable.

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