What about internal pics of the storm? - Page 7

Les · 10-02-2004, 03:56 AM

Cathar.
Thanks
Probably not worth the effort to trace

Incoherent
If you are referring to the "heat capacity" limit, the effect is possibly best illustrated in a rehash of Billa/Roscal (link):

The influence can possibly be considered minor above ~1LPM.
Note the "Heat Capacity LimitC/W" calculated : DeltaT =1/2 *{DeltaT(inlet) + DeltaT(outlet)}

Jag · 10-02-2004, 04:54 AM

Les, you can find it here

Les · 10-02-2004, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag

Les, you can find it here

Ta

ASME J. Heat Transfer 121, 43-49

Work of a UK Phd.
Have e-mailed his contact address in the hope of further info.

BillA · 10-02-2004, 11:22 AM

jeez, this is so interesting I may even get back into impingement

good work Cathar

Les · 10-02-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by unregistered

jeez, this is so interesting I may even get back into impingement

good work Cathar

A taunt or a dare?
Including Viscosity Coefficients?

BillA · 10-02-2004, 11:58 AM

an intellectual inquiry w/some modeling perhaps
(still) not viewed as a 'commercial' product

you know me Les, always the empiricist at heart

Les · 10-02-2004, 12:06 PM

Both Cathar and yourself are excellent empiricists who are well versed in theory.
Problem is myself, as theoretician I am a dilettante.

BillA · 10-02-2004, 12:17 PM

I have nothing against helping a European tester,
you should find yourself a 'partner in crime' over there

Les · 10-02-2004, 01:23 PM

Maybe His Royal Highness Prince Charles(have time for the guy) would support such a European venture.
It is possible.

BillA · 10-02-2004, 01:30 PM

hob nobbing now, eh ?
but he is a steeplechase kinda guy . . . .

Les · 10-02-2004, 01:57 PM

His sister(Anne) and his grand-mother very much so.
HRH herself is 50/50
Although I am republican(UK definition) I have time for them.
Still hopeful North Light will win The Arc - style of running should suit - few winners come-off-the-pace
Did you ever visit Puddletown(Dorset), friends there

BillA · 10-02-2004, 02:24 PM

no, just went to a crammer in Chetnole, never got to travel around (was 15-16)

I was alluding to jumping other things (no offense intended)

Incoherent · 10-02-2004, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Les

Incoherent
If you are referring to the "heat capacity" limit...

??

I was not Les.
Actually I am not quite sure what I was referring to. Swedish beer is with some exceptions generally to be avoided in future.

The "heat capacity limit" is not something I had even considered before you mentioned it, except in a temporal sense. The only "max possible" limit I have considered is spreading resistance...
More to absorb. Oh, an unintended pun.

Cathar · 10-02-2004, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

jeez, this is so interesting I may even get back into impingement

good work Cathar

Thanks Bill. That's a pretty big statement of you to say.

BillA · 10-04-2004, 08:49 AM

well you're a pretty good designer eh ?

Cathar · 10-04-2004, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

well you're a pretty good designer eh ?

Just flattered that an empericist hack like myself could provoke a reassessment.

(Independent) proof of the pudding will come in a few weeks though.

BillA · 10-04-2004, 09:26 AM

I'm thinking the tubes can dance

WarlordBB · 10-04-2004, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

I'm thinking the tubes can dance

I apologize if this is an inappropriate place to ask this but I have read many threads at this point that discuss the Storm and I've yet to see this addressed...

How does one go about getting a Storm block? Is this not being discussed because they aren't "officially" available yet? I realize that these are not a "commercial" product BTW.

(Note: I'm in the US)

threeputt · 10-04-2004, 12:05 PM

Cathar's homepage

Zubzero · 10-04-2004, 02:55 PM

Does anyone now if ther's a way to measure the boundry layer?

Cathar · 10-05-2004, 08:55 AM

threeputt · 10-05-2004, 09:08 AM

Errr... is that silver or are my eyes messed up?

I take it that's silver G5 prototype?

edit: Hmm..looked at it some more and it looks like the pins are smaller on this one?

edit:edit: And deeper cups?

BillA · 10-05-2004, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubzero

Does anyone now if ther's a way to measure the boundry layer?

various techniques, suggest google
any text on Fluid Mechanics

nigelyuen · 10-05-2004, 10:01 AM

the base is thinner than cascade, right?

Silicon Effect · 10-05-2004, 10:52 AM

G5

will you make the G5 and 6 in copper aswell? or is the performance gain from the silver?

10-02-2004, 03:56 AM	#151
Les Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Wigan UK Posts: 929	Cathar. Thanks Probably not worth the effort to trace Incoherent If you are referring to the "heat capacity" limit, the effect is possibly best illustrated in a rehash of Billa/Roscal (link): The influence can possibly be considered minor above ~1LPM. Note the "Heat Capacity LimitC/W" calculated : DeltaT =1/2 {DeltaT(inlet) + DeltaT(outlet)} Last edited by Les; 10-02-2004 at 04:57 AM.*

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threeputt Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 78	Cathar's homepage __________________ "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker."

10-05-2004, 08:55 AM	#171
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Some more piccies

10-05-2004, 09:08 AM	#172
threeputt Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 78	Errr... is that silver or are my eyes messed up? I take it that's silver G5 prototype? edit: Hmm..looked at it some more and it looks like the pins are smaller on this one? edit:edit: And deeper cups? __________________ "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker." Last edited by threeputt; 10-05-2004 at 11:18 AM.

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nigelyuen Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: HONG KONG Posts: 56	the base is thinner than cascade, right? __________________ http://ny.no-ip.com/wtbanner.png

10-02-2004, 04:54 AM	#152
Jag Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 179	Les, you can find it here

10-02-2004, 11:22 AM	#154
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	jeez, this is so interesting I may even get back into impingement good work Cathar

10-02-2004, 11:58 AM	#156
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	an intellectual inquiry w/some modeling perhaps (still) not viewed as a 'commercial' product you know me Les, always the empiricist at heart

10-02-2004, 12:06 PM	#157
Les Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Wigan UK Posts: 929	Both Cathar and yourself are excellent empiricists who are well versed in theory. Problem is myself, as theoretician I am a dilettante.

10-02-2004, 12:17 PM	#158
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	I have nothing against helping a European tester, you should find yourself a 'partner in crime' over there

10-02-2004, 01:23 PM	#159
Les Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Wigan UK Posts: 929	Maybe His Royal Highness Prince Charles(have time for the guy) would support such a European venture. It is possible.

10-02-2004, 01:30 PM	#160
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	hob nobbing now, eh ? but he is a steeplechase kinda guy . . . .

10-02-2004, 01:57 PM	#161
Les Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Wigan UK Posts: 929	His sister(Anne) and his grand-mother very much so. HRH herself is 50/50 Although I am republican(UK definition) I have time for them. Still hopeful North Light will win The Arc - style of running should suit - few winners come-off-the-pace Did you ever visit Puddletown(Dorset), friends there

10-02-2004, 02:24 PM	#162
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	no, just went to a crammer in Chetnole, never got to travel around (was 15-16) I was alluding to jumping other things (no offense intended)

10-04-2004, 08:49 AM	#165
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	well you're a pretty good designer eh ?

10-04-2004, 09:26 AM	#167
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	I'm thinking the tubes can dance

10-04-2004, 02:55 PM	#170
Zubzero Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Västerås,Sweden Posts: 1	Does anyone now if ther's a way to measure the boundry layer?

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