Two pumps config - serial or paralell? - Page 9

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 09:01 AM

Burned 8 discs, broke prematurely 2. Did 3 halves of the blocks. Bought package of 6 discs for 2.5 Euro. And 3 arbors for 3.5 Euro.

I'm not gonna tap them myself cos' I would have to buy the tappers and as long as I don't find barbs I can purchase, it's better to have all that made by machinists here. I'll buy the taps and practice a little on other materials and leftovers (maybe next month) but now I can't wait to see finished blocks. Also, need to buy some good big dia drill bits for the holes.

g.l.amour · 11-11-2002, 09:16 AM

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well, i'd like more to do it from a to z myself, but if it ain't possible for you, so be it.

what i also found at diy store , was a 45-90° saw on a standard. looked to be for aluminum profiles. but with a little patience i thk it could also be used to cut up the bars. anyway, that should eliminate the drifting u spoke about when trying to dimension the blox with a hand metalsaw.

shit puzzdre, in a couple of days, u will have new blox to show off. its been real nice of you to take pix all the way to the end. i learned alot. i know the original idea is rotor's; but his site provides essential info on the design, but this thread is basically a howto.

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 09:59 AM

Quote:

well, i'd like more to do it from a to z myself, but if it ain't possible for you, so be it.

Sadly but true for now. I still have three copper chunks cutted and sized, so I'm gonna make one from a to z pretty soon, and this ones will be used for some time, and then it's the Christmas time, and my brother is already drooling onto the pic's. It's gonna be a great gift.

That saw on standard looked pretty good last time I wandered in tools store, but I'm not sure for the price. I found them priced from approx 35 Euro to almost 100 Euro. What I'm not sure about is should I rush and buy the cheapest one, or wait a little and buy myself better one. However, that will be the next tool in my cave...

I really like doing this and making stuff, so I consider other people would enjoy it too, and I like to take step by step pic's to show the progress. I'd like to apologise to the people having to upload all the pics (I'm on the dial-up too:shrug: ) but that's the way I like it. It could be called a how-to, and that would be the purpose of such a number of pic's. I hope it helped.

Thx.

and now for something completely different - the pic's:

first detailed grid of square pattern made with dremel:

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 10:01 AM

Second, the two halves of the square pattern block, upper made by 'humanized CNC machine'LOL,
and lower one cutted with dremel. Dimensions of the halves are 80 mm x 50 mm x 10 mm. They will be
sanded more, and holes for retention and holding the halves together will be drilled (tomorrow).

PS: while dremelling always wear protective goggles or similar. I had a face shield on all the
time while drilling, cutting etc. Be careful with your eyes, you don't have spare!

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 10:02 AM

ooops, here's the pic:

g.l.amour · 11-11-2002, 10:20 AM

jeez, the dremeled part does look sharper than the other. don't thk it will effect performance much, though.

those dimensions, arent they way too big for a chipset block?

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 10:24 AM

Ooops, I need to explain, I'm making two cpu blocks and one chipset block. Two cpu blocks are 80 x 50 x 10 mm, one circular and one square pattern. The chipset block is 40 x 40 x 10 mm and it waits for its turn to be finished...

g.l.amour · 11-11-2002, 10:26 AM

oki, understand now. will be nice to see if there is a benifit of one over another

Puzzdre · 11-11-2002, 11:02 AM

Yup, that's what I thought when started making them, but dunno about the comparision cos' one block being central inlet/ two outlets, and one side inlet/outlet config.
Also, how long does it take for AS3 to fully settle? The site said couple of days...I have no experience with AS3 so any info is welcome..

g.l.amour · 11-11-2002, 11:19 AM

i wouldn't worry too much on the AS3 part. just put a drop on cpu, smear it open, and put the block on. its not like you're gonna burn up your cpu if you AS3 hasn't cured for long enough. i don't c any temp decrease after using it over a couple of days. in fact i felt kinda ripped because if u use the white 13 in a dozen thermal paste (generic) it looks to be as good as the AS3, and doesn't give u danger of shorting processor pins. anyway, i understand that u want everything to be as good as it gets, if u spent that much time on everything.

the thermal adhesive is very good stuff though.

g.l.amour · 11-12-2002, 04:38 AM

I FOUND COPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

damn, didn't think it would've been that hard finding it, had to phone about 30 nrs to just find some in lesser length than 6mtrs.

alia iacta est
dunno if i've written it correctly, but it should mean that the dice have been thrown.

Puzzdre · 11-12-2002, 04:46 AM

Goooooodaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

LOL, I think that aleia was jacta a long time ago, since you was modding that biggie case...

Can u tell us the price?

/damn, I got blood on my keyboard, was sanding the blocks and eventually sanded some skin off my finger... forgot how distracting is typing with less figers and staring to the keys.../

I'll post pics od dremelled circular block little later (I think I'll call it The Massacre, by the look of it:shrug: )

g.l.amour · 11-12-2002, 05:18 AM

llooool, the massacre, sounds really, really cool

price paid for 100x5x1cm is 44€ (new)

some pics would indeed be nice, what is total amount of times spent on 2 halves (fragnstein seems to have pulled it off in 5 hours, thats really sharp)

Puzzdre · 11-12-2002, 05:38 AM

Wow, who ever considered copper to be cheap!? Also our hobbies...

The square pattern block can be made pretty quickly, considering that you got all the tools and accesories at hand and in right amount (not having to run into the store for more cutting discs etc

), for circular pattern I think it would take one third of time more (more drilling and cutting). Five hours total is pretty quick for punching the start holes, drilling, cutting, tapping and assembling. I think that it took me 5 hrs to get to this state of drilled, cutted and sanded block. Skills, skills...

Now the pic, circular, massacred one:

g.l.amour · 11-12-2002, 07:17 AM

waw, the massacre maze to be more appropriate

11-11-2002, 09:01 AM	#121
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Burned 8 discs, broke prematurely 2. Did 3 halves of the blocks. Bought package of 6 discs for 2.5 Euro. And 3 arbors for 3.5 Euro. I'm not gonna tap them myself cos' I would have to buy the tappers and as long as I don't find barbs I can purchase, it's better to have all that made by machinists here. I'll buy the taps and practice a little on other materials and leftovers (maybe next month) but now I can't wait to see finished blocks. Also, need to buy some good big dia drill bits for the holes. __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-11-2002, 10:01 AM	#124
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Second, the two halves of the square pattern block, upper made by 'humanized CNC machine'LOL, and lower one cutted with dremel. Dimensions of the halves are 80 mm x 50 mm x 10 mm. They will be sanded more, and holes for retention and holding the halves together will be drilled (tomorrow). PS: while dremelling always wear protective goggles or similar. I had a face shield on all the time while drilling, cutting etc. Be careful with your eyes, you don't have spare! __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-11-2002, 10:24 AM	#127
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Ooops, I need to explain, I'm making two cpu blocks and one chipset block. Two cpu blocks are 80 x 50 x 10 mm, one circular and one square pattern. The chipset block is 40 x 40 x 10 mm and it waits for its turn to be finished... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-11-2002, 11:02 AM	#129
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Yup, that's what I thought when started making them, but dunno about the comparision cos' one block being central inlet/ two outlets, and one side inlet/outlet config. Also, how long does it take for AS3 to fully settle? The site said couple of days...I have no experience with AS3 so any info is welcome.. __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-12-2002, 04:46 AM	#132
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Goooooodaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! LOL, I think that aleia was jacta a long time ago, since you was modding that biggie case... Can u tell us the price? /damn, I got blood on my keyboard, was sanding the blocks and eventually sanded some skin off my finger... forgot how distracting is typing with less figers and staring to the keys.../ I'll post pics od dremelled circular block little later (I think I'll call it The Massacre, by the look of it:shrug: ) __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-11-2002, 09:16 AM	#122
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	i c well, i'd like more to do it from a to z myself, but if it ain't possible for you, so be it. what i also found at diy store , was a 45-90° saw on a standard. looked to be for aluminum profiles. but with a little patience i thk it could also be used to cut up the bars. anyway, that should eliminate the drifting u spoke about when trying to dimension the blox with a hand metalsaw. shit puzzdre, in a couple of days, u will have new blox to show off. its been real nice of you to take pix all the way to the end. i learned alot. i know the original idea is rotor's; but his site provides essential info on the design, but this thread is basically a howto.

11-11-2002, 10:20 AM	#126
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	jeez, the dremeled part does look sharper than the other. don't thk it will effect performance much, though. those dimensions, arent they way too big for a chipset block?

11-11-2002, 10:26 AM	#128
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	oki, understand now. will be nice to see if there is a benifit of one over another

11-11-2002, 11:19 AM	#130
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	i wouldn't worry too much on the AS3 part. just put a drop on cpu, smear it open, and put the block on. its not like you're gonna burn up your cpu if you AS3 hasn't cured for long enough. i don't c any temp decrease after using it over a couple of days. in fact i felt kinda ripped because if u use the white 13 in a dozen thermal paste (generic) it looks to be as good as the AS3, and doesn't give u danger of shorting processor pins. anyway, i understand that u want everything to be as good as it gets, if u spent that much time on everything. the thermal adhesive is very good stuff though.

11-12-2002, 04:38 AM	#131
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	I FOUND COPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn, didn't think it would've been that hard finding it, had to phone about 30 nrs to just find some in lesser length than 6mtrs. alia iacta est dunno if i've written it correctly, but it should mean that the dice have been thrown.

11-12-2002, 05:18 AM	#133
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	llooool, the massacre, sounds really, really cool price paid for 100x5x1cm is 44€ (new) some pics would indeed be nice, what is total amount of times spent on 2 halves (fragnstein seems to have pulled it off in 5 hours, thats really sharp)

11-12-2002, 07:17 AM	#135
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	waw, the massacre maze to be more appropriate

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