My single macro fin dual channel waterblock design - Page 2

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
or even myself on my own mill!

what the !

why would it cost you money ?

pippin88 · 02-15-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
what the !

why would it cost you money ?

Materials, time, tooling.

jaydee · 02-15-2003, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
what the !

why would it cost you money ?

I do not have any 1/16" end mills or a collet to hold one. Will cost me about $150US for the endmills and the collet to make a block like like. For $20 each milled there I can get 4-5 blocks milled and shipped for the same as buying the equipment to do it myself.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 01:07 AM

well have to see what they quote me for my cathar clone design....

we have to wait till monday Aus time :P

heres what i will tell them over the phone (details wise)

edit forgot to add pic lol

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 01:08 AM

pic:

Opteron · 02-15-2003, 01:15 AM

hey guys, /me is new on pro cooling but some of you might already know me from somewhere else..

i cant wait to find out how much its gonna cost to get it milled coz if theyre cheap then i am sure so buy one from him.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Opteron
hey guys, /me is new on pro cooling but some of you might already know me from somewhere else..

i cant wait to find out how much its gonna cost to get it milled coz if theyre cheap then i am sure so buy one from him.

and you will be the only one who will recive a copy of my block, dony you feel specail

i should get:

"Cathar clone v1.0 #1" printed on my block and
"Cathar clone v1.0 #2" printed on ops

what.... its completely original i swear....

:shrug:

jaydee · 02-15-2003, 10:38 AM

Will belive it when I see it!

Also don't forget the nozzel. One of the most important parts of spreading the incomming water into all those channels.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
Will belive it when I see it! Also don't forget the nozzel. One of the most important parts of spreading the incomming water into all those channels.

nozzel....

um..

uh oh

Cathar · 02-15-2003, 05:53 PM

The Barton core runs along the length of the fins, so it's fine.

Those fins are about 40mm long from the picture. You have 8 channels you need to cut at a depth of 5mm each. For starters 1mm mill bits with a 5mm shank are extremely rare. In C110 copper, you're looking at around 50 minutes of machine time to cut that. Then they'll need to pay for the number of mill bits that they'll snap while trying to get it right.

It could be done with a slitter saw. I'm unsure of the total machine time here though. Of course you have to pay for the blades and the setup costs to get it right.

$20 for a tool shop to machine something for you sounds to me like they're just doing a favor for someone, whether or not you think they aren't isn't the issue. It's simply not cost effective.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Cathar
The Barton core runs along the length of the fins, so it's fine.

Those fins are about 40mm long from the picture. You have 8 channels you need to cut at a depth of 5mm each. For starters 1mm mill bits with a 5mm shank are extremely rare. In C110 copper, you're looking at around 50 minutes of machine time to cut that. Then they'll need to pay for the number of mill bits that they'll snap while trying to get it right.

It could be done with a slitter saw. I'm unsure of the total machine time here though. Of course you have to pay for the blades and the setup costs to get it right.

$20 for a tool shop to machine something for you sounds to me like they're just doing a favor for someone, whether or not you think they aren't isn't the issue. It's simply not cost effective.

i never got a quote for my clone,

but i still dont know how a slit saw operates, if my quote is to much i will want to use a slit saw

how much are slit saws ?
where can you get them ?
how do they work ?
pics ?

ill probibly just have everthing milled out except for the 1mm wide channels and do them with a slit saw.... if the quote is to high

cheers

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 06:47 PM

actually if i change the bottom 5mm distance to 6mm i could do most of the work at school with no charge

then get a slitting saw and do the rest

pippin88 · 02-15-2003, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
i never got a quote for my clone,

but i still dont know how a slit saw operates, if my quote is to much i will want to use a slit saw

how much are slit saws ?
where can you get them ?
how do they work ?
pics ?

ill probibly just have everthing milled out except for the 1mm wide channels and do them with a slit saw.... if the quote is to high

cheers

Mine ranged in price from $13 to $20.
Got them from a machine tools place in Sydney
They are like a mini circular saw.
Pics will be forth coming in a while in my thread.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by pippin88
Mine ranged in price from $13 to $20.
Got them from a machine tools place in Sydney
They are like a mini circular saw.
Pics will be forth coming in a while in my thread.

really only $13-$20 ?

will i need only to pay $13-$20 to cut it ? or are they like just blades or something

pippin88 · 02-15-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
really only $13-$20 ?

will i need only to pay $13-$20 to cut it ? or are they like just blades or something

Just blades, then you need an arbor.

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by pippin88
Just blades, then you need an arbor.

lol, you know that isnt good enough

whats an arbor !

Volenti · 02-15-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
lol, you know that isnt good enough

whats an arbor !

it's the bit that holds the blades

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Volenti
it's the bit that holds the blades

LOL

anyway...

i just popped down to my closest hardware store looking for brass barbs, and was told you would have a very hard time finding them retail

so i need some help trying to find brass barbs in Aus !

cheers

pippin88 · 02-15-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
LOL

anyway...

i just popped down to my closest hardware store looking for brass barbs, and was told you would have a very hard time finding them retail

so i need some help trying to find brass barbs in Aus !

cheers

Most truck places, most hosing etc. specialists like Pirtek, ENZED, as well as plumbing places.

Volenti · 02-15-2003, 10:49 PM

go to a plumbing supply store, or a place that sells light irrigation equipment, they will have brass hose barbs.

hell, if a 2 horse town like maryborough has 3 places that I can get brass hosebarbs from (retail), surely brisbane has one!

Spamz0r · 02-15-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Volenti
go to a plumbing supply store, or a place that sells light irrigation equipment, they will have brass hose barbs.

hell, if a 2 horse town like maryborough has 3 places that I can get brass hosebarbs from (retail), surely brisbane has one!

hmm ok

i wanted to get the measurements of the inside of the barbs but it doesnt matter that much atm

ill have one 1/2" barb in and 2 going out, what size should be going out ? 3/8" ?

can i get a Y adapter ? 2 3/8 into one 1/2" as that would be preferable for obious reasons

well ive decided that i will do most of the milling except for the 1mm channels at school

i will either do the chanels with a slit saw thingy or take them to get done at Compucut

JFettig · 02-21-2003, 11:05 PM

I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math

jaydee · 02-22-2003, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math

Hummmm..... Will look into that. That is dirt cheap for 1/16". Especially carbide. Need to get a new collet set to, lost mine in my last move.

Spamz0r · 02-22-2003, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math

can you please post a direct link to thoose bits as i have no real idea of what im looking for

bigben2k · 02-22-2003, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math

Nice one Jon!

Got anyone who sells 1.0 mm endmills, that can go 4 or 5 mm deep? Prefer Cobalt, and coated

02-15-2003, 01:07 AM	#29
Spamz0r Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brisbane Austrailia (or where my computer is) Posts: 86	well have to see what they quote me for my cathar clone design.... we have to wait till monday Aus time :P heres what i will tell them over the phone (details wise) edit forgot to add pic lol __________________ [1700+ (1466MHz 1.5v @ 1983MHz 1.975v) 2400+] - [SLK-800 w/50cfm Sunnon] - [Epox 8RDA+] - [256Mb Kingmax PC2100 & 256Mb Crucail PC2100 @ 2:2:2:5:2] - [ GF4 Leadtek 4200 (250/513 @ 300/600)] - [ 12851 3d2001SE] Hardware :: Modding :: Cooling :: Software :: Games :: Reviews :: Forums :: All at PlanetModz

02-15-2003, 06:47 PM	#37
Spamz0r Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brisbane Austrailia (or where my computer is) Posts: 86	actually if i change the bottom 5mm distance to 6mm i could do most of the work at school with no charge then get a slitting saw and do the rest __________________ [1700+ (1466MHz 1.5v @ 1983MHz 1.975v) 2400+] - [SLK-800 w/50cfm Sunnon] - [Epox 8RDA+] - [256Mb Kingmax PC2100 & 256Mb Crucail PC2100 @ 2:2:2:5:2] - [ GF4 Leadtek 4200 (250/513 @ 300/600)] - [ 12851 3d2001SE] Hardware :: Modding :: Cooling :: Software :: Games :: Reviews :: Forums :: All at PlanetModz

02-15-2003, 10:49 PM	#45
Volenti Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: in a nice cool spot Posts: 427	go to a plumbing supply store, or a place that sells light irrigation equipment, they will have brass hose barbs. hell, if a 2 horse town like maryborough has 3 places that I can get brass hosebarbs from (retail), surely brisbane has one! __________________ feel free to icq/msn me, I'm always willing to toss around ideas.

02-15-2003, 01:15 AM	#31
Opteron Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1	hey guys, /me is new on pro cooling but some of you might already know me from somewhere else.. i cant wait to find out how much its gonna cost to get it milled coz if theyre cheap then i am sure so buy one from him.

02-15-2003, 10:38 AM	#33
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Will belive it when I see it! Also don't forget the nozzel. One of the most important parts of spreading the incomming water into all those channels.

02-15-2003, 05:53 PM	#35
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	The Barton core runs along the length of the fins, so it's fine. Those fins are about 40mm long from the picture. You have 8 channels you need to cut at a depth of 5mm each. For starters 1mm mill bits with a 5mm shank are extremely rare. In C110 copper, you're looking at around 50 minutes of machine time to cut that. Then they'll need to pay for the number of mill bits that they'll snap while trying to get it right. It could be done with a slitter saw. I'm unsure of the total machine time here though. Of course you have to pay for the blades and the setup costs to get it right. $20 for a tool shop to machine something for you sounds to me like they're just doing a favor for someone, whether or not you think they aren't isn't the issue. It's simply not cost effective.

02-21-2003, 11:05 PM	#47
JFettig Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Willmar MN/Fargo ND Posts: 504	I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64. and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE. this is USD, do the math

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