Radeons w/out shims

Arcturius · 12-31-2003, 12:06 AM

Hello all,

I just got myself a new Radeon 9600 (Sapphire) and noticed that it does not have a shim on the core. Does anyone know if this is a new development, or have Radeons been shipping without the shim for some time now?

I'm certainly not complaining, it saves me a step when I replace the HS.

TerraMex · 01-05-2004, 02:18 PM

Is it new? Or refurbished or resold after being fixed at the factory ?

Arcturius · 01-05-2004, 06:08 PM

Brand new, from newegg about 2wks ago.

TerraMex · 01-05-2004, 09:23 PM

Then I dunno. All the ATI's I've seen have shims.

SlaterSpeed · 01-11-2004, 08:45 AM

9600 np/pro/xt do not have shims

But im quite sure all 9800/9700/9500series still have them

Wildfrogman · 02-01-2004, 12:10 AM

Chances are its to cut costs. Maybe ati made the 9600 core a bit stronger somehow or figured core crushing wasnt that big of problem?

Arcturius · 02-05-2004, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildfrogman

Chances are its to cut costs. Maybe ati made the 9600 core a bit stronger somehow or figured core crushing wasnt that big of problem?

I'm sure it's to cut costs.

Apparently chipped corners on the die are not as big of a concern--mine has a rather large HS that's only mounted with two plastic pins. Maybe they figure it can't "rock" far enough without running into the RAM, to cause any damage?

I attached two images of the card to show what the HS looks like. The springs on the plastic pins are VERY weak, and easily let the HS tip if even the smallest amount of pressure is applied.

SlaterSpeed · 02-16-2004, 12:57 PM

Theres just not enough pressure involved to crush it.

On a cpu theres alot of pressure but on a gfx card only those little springs that you mention. Ati probably relised that the shim caused more problems than it solved.

Arcturius · 02-16-2004, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaterSpeed

Theres just not enough pressure involved to crush it.

On a cpu theres alot of pressure but on a gfx card only those little springs that you mention. Ati probably relised that the shim caused more problems than it solved.

Possibly--I was actually referring to the pressure applied to an edge or corner, should the HS get 'tipped.' I'm sure many of you remember the whining that went on when the socketed Athlons/Durons got released...

12-31-2003, 12:06 AM	#1
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	Radeons w/out shims Hello all, I just got myself a new Radeon 9600 (Sapphire) and noticed that it does not have a shim on the core. Does anyone know if this is a new development, or have Radeons been shipping without the shim for some time now? I'm certainly not complaining, it saves me a step when I replace the HS.

01-05-2004, 02:18 PM	#2
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	Is it new? Or refurbished or resold after being fixed at the factory ? __________________ "we need more cowbell."

01-05-2004, 09:23 PM	#4
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	Then I dunno. All the ATI's I've seen have shims. __________________ "we need more cowbell."

01-05-2004, 06:08 PM	#3
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	Brand new, from newegg about 2wks ago.

01-11-2004, 08:45 AM	#5
SlaterSpeed Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 234	9600 np/pro/xt do not have shims But im quite sure all 9800/9700/9500series still have them

02-01-2004, 12:10 AM	#6
Wildfrogman Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA Posts: 31	Chances are its to cut costs. Maybe ati made the 9600 core a bit stronger somehow or figured core crushing wasnt that big of problem?

02-16-2004, 12:57 PM	#8
SlaterSpeed Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 234	Theres just not enough pressure involved to crush it. On a cpu theres alot of pressure but on a gfx card only those little springs that you mention. Ati probably relised that the shim caused more problems than it solved.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)