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Unread 08-23-2001, 08:32 AM   #1
Woodsie
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Hello all,

Just a few questions regarding my intended setup...

Firstly, the stuff that`s bought already

Dangerden 2-1 (Updated) with 1.2" fittings
D-Tek Radiator with 1/2" fittings
Eheim 1250 pump & lots of silicone tubing...


Looking at cooling an overclocked T-Bird 1.4 or whatever comes out in September (That`s when I`ll be buying a Mobo & chip)

1) I`m intending to run most of the setup outside the case. So, is a resivior with the pump in it worth the bother?

2) What resivior would be good to use that I could get from the UK. An idea I have is to have a copper resivior made to perhaps help dissapate heat a bit more?

3) Is it better to take the copper cooling plate from the bottom of the block if I don`t intend to use a peltier at this point?

4) Is it worth using two fans to cool the radiator, or will one 120mm @7v ( to keep the noise down)do the trick?

5) Would it be better to put the radiator at the lowest point to help keep air bubbles out of it?

And finally...

6) Within reason ( cash not so tight, but certainly not loaded! ), what else would be worth purchasing to add to the setup to improve things? ie Water wetter, neoprene sheet, silicone sealant.

Thankyou in advance,
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Unread 08-23-2001, 09:21 AM   #2
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1) If you want to purge or refill your system *very* easily, yes. Else you must cope with the 'dual tee+3 vanes' setup.

2) Only if you have all-copper system. DD Maze is all copper but i dont know about your rad. Also sealing a PVC reservoir is quite easy.

3) Of course

4) One fan will make less noise than 2 fans whatever you do. If a 120mm fits on your rad go for it.

5) Absolutely

6) Water wetter=worthy to prevent corrosion
Neoprene sheet=only if you put pelts
Silicone=only if you don't use Micheal Huck's excellent push-in fittings. Usual fittings will always produce micro-leaks, that's why you need silicone.
To this you can add: towels (lots of em), and hose connectors (tee or elbows) - lots of em as well
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Unread 08-23-2001, 08:13 PM   #3
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1) I agree a resevoir or some sort of T-fitting and fill tube should be used to bleed air from the system, however I probably wouldn't recommend mounting the pump in the resevoir. Just get a small resevoir.

2) the D-Tek rad and the Maze 2 are full copper, so use only a plastic/PVC or copper rad. Aluminum will highly raise corrosion.

3) Yes

4) If you can mount and feel you need two fans it's an option, but one will likely be all that's required. Most people find better results with it mounted about an inch from the rad with a shroud of some sort (cardboard and tape if required).

5) It doesn't make any real differance other than during filling. After filled fluid circulates the system with enough speed to move the bubbles out of the rad easily. Do try to mount the resevoir on the highest point of a hose, this way when you shut the pump off the bubbles in that hose will collect in the resevoir. Do however make sure that at least one fitting is on the top side of the rad (ie rad flat, on it's side, or both fittings up) if the fittings are both down it will be very difficult to get air out of the rad regardless of where it's mounted.

If your not going to run a peltier, just Water Wetter, Distilled Water and Hose Clamps. If pelting start researching condensation prevention!!!
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Unread 08-24-2001, 11:27 PM   #4
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If you want an idea for a resevoir.....
use a 8 oz Evenflo baby bottle like I am

Very cheap, easy to drill, used epoxy to seal all the fittings with the bottle and it can be easily opened.

Works great for me and it is mounted at the highest point in my system (outside the case so i can see how much coolent is in the system and how well it is flowing). Transparent works the best.

Note: make sure that the fittings remain submerged at all times. Cracked my first bottle becase my coolent (95% water + 5% WaterWetter) was "dropping" into the resevoir and created enough bubbles to crack the bottle from the inside Moved the fitting under the water level and no problems since.

Definately use WaterWetter or equivelent in your system unless you choose to use Antifreeze.

That's about all I can say
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