Go Back   Pro/Forums > ProCooling Technical Discussions > Snap Server / NAS / Storage Technical Goodies
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat

Snap Server / NAS / Storage Technical Goodies The Home for Snap Server Hacking, Storage and NAS info. And NAS / Snap Classifides

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 11-09-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
razc
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 2
Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

I have a snap server 4500 which I am trying to update the OS from 4.2 to 4.4. Everytime I attempt the upgrade through the GUI I get a 500 server error. I went the Adaptec knowledge base and it said you need at least 200MB of available space to upgrade the OS. To find out how much space you you are suppose to type df -h / from the http://yoursnapserver/admin/debug.cgi screen. Below is the result I got.

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md100root 529M 412M 117M 78% /

Could this be why I can't upgrade the OS. If so how do I fix it?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
razc is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-09-2007, 03:34 PM   #2
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Looking at those numbers you only have 117meg free. Looks like you need to do some house cleaning. Time to back stuff off.....

As a rule of thumb It's not a good idea to fill a storage system up over 90%. Time to see about installing some larger HD's, and retiring your 160's.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-10-2007, 10:48 AM   #3
Phoenix32
Thermophile
 
Phoenix32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Reboot the unit (a clean power off reboot) and then try. Also, turn off (disable) any of the extras you might have running (like the CA AV). Once you have done that, try again.

If that don't work, try adding some memory (PC2100 ECC Reg DDR).

If that don't work, force it into recovery mode and try there.

If that don't work, then come grab me in e-mail and we will see what we can do (no, I am not free of charge for this type work).
__________________
~
6 x Snap 4400 (SATA Converted)
2 x Snap 4500 (SATA Converted)

1 x Snap 110
5 x Snap 410
3 x Snap 520

2 x Sanbloc S50

Drives from 250GB to 2TB (PATA, SATA, and SAS)

GOS v5.2.067

All subject to change, day by day......
Phoenix32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-10-2007, 02:31 PM   #4
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Andy,

He has too much data on the HD, needs to clean house..... to free up space.

He may beable to gain space depending on how he use using SnapShots... Def is 20% of the HD. Cutting it back to 5% would release some back.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-10-2007, 05:19 PM   #5
Phoenix32
Thermophile
 
Phoenix32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Damn, I hate it when this happens.

Sorry David, I have to correct you on this one. It is not about available HD space. It's about memory space. Here is a screen shot example from a 4400 with 220.97 GB free hard disk space (out of 1TB) running that command. Compare it to his original post...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg df command.jpg (21.4 KB, 17 views)
__________________
~
6 x Snap 4400 (SATA Converted)
2 x Snap 4500 (SATA Converted)

1 x Snap 110
5 x Snap 410
3 x Snap 520

2 x Sanbloc S50

Drives from 250GB to 2TB (PATA, SATA, and SAS)

GOS v5.2.067

All subject to change, day by day......
Phoenix32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-11-2007, 09:51 AM   #6
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

I will disagree with you on this one. It needs 200meg of HD space to unpack the gsu. Now I don't know if it's with its Guardian OS Partitions or user data.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #7
Phoenix32
Thermophile
 
Phoenix32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

From what I have been able to determine, it is from the OS partition. But their own database says to use that command, which shows memory, not HD space.

My guess is, if he follows what I told him to do, it will work. Either that, or there is something wrong with the unit. But cleaning up a little user space never hurts either.

Funny, we have not heard back from him yet as to how much user space was available etc...
__________________
~
6 x Snap 4400 (SATA Converted)
2 x Snap 4500 (SATA Converted)

1 x Snap 110
5 x Snap 410
3 x Snap 520

2 x Sanbloc S50

Drives from 250GB to 2TB (PATA, SATA, and SAS)

GOS v5.2.067

All subject to change, day by day......
Phoenix32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-11-2007, 11:38 AM   #8
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

If it's from his partition, his log file may need to be cleared out. I do not remember if there is a limit on the db size. But this should not grow very fast unless some type of problem, and or a lot of retarts. It could even be caused by hackers trying to breakin, this generates a lot of logs, I know this from experience. If he's using the 4500 as DHCP server, this may also generate logs.

The guardian os is designed very well. It is very hard to believe that Snap/Adaptec would shipped a unit without enough ram to do a upgrade. The lower 4200 were shipped with less ram and have no problems.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-12-2007, 06:41 AM   #9
razc
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 2
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Thanks for your suggestions. I will try them and let you know what happens. FYI. There is nothing currently stored on this snap server. It has been configured as a RAID 5 array. There are no volumes or shares configured on it.

Thank you
razc is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-12-2007, 09:58 AM   #10
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

If it fails again, log in as root/admin not a user with admin rights and see if that helps.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-12-2007, 10:26 AM   #11
Phoenix32
Thermophile
 
Phoenix32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Snap Server 4500 OS Upgrade Issue

Oh goodie! Someone will be sending me their Snap 4200 soon.


(couldn't help myself)
__________________
~
6 x Snap 4400 (SATA Converted)
2 x Snap 4500 (SATA Converted)

1 x Snap 110
5 x Snap 410
3 x Snap 520

2 x Sanbloc S50

Drives from 250GB to 2TB (PATA, SATA, and SAS)

GOS v5.2.067

All subject to change, day by day......

Last edited by Phoenix32; 11-12-2007 at 05:15 PM.
Phoenix32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2005 ProCooling.com
If we in some way offend you, insult you or your people, screw your mom, beat up your dad, or poop on your porch... we're sorry... we were probably really drunk...
Oh and dont steal our content bitches! Don't give us a reason to pee in your open car window this summer...