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Unread 06-03-2005, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default how is this waterblock!

hi-end 100% pure copper block
3/8 ID
seal up with a welding method!!

Test System
Motherboard: 875P-T
Processor:Intel P4E 570J ES (2MB L2 3.80 GHz 800 MHz) @ 4.3G1.437v
Memory:G.SKILL ddr 2 x 512MB
Video Card: ASUS V9999Ultra
Hard Drive: Seagate 80G*2
Power Supply:400W+300W
R.T.P.:27
water :26
1200 LPH pump
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...chmentid=67717
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when using the ice water!!
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Unread 06-04-2005, 12:27 AM   #2
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lol, nobody interested in it?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 12:38 AM   #3
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OMG, simply beautiful, but where do the barbs go?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 12:54 AM   #4
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OMG, simply beautiful, but where do the barbs go?
here it is
http://www.bingochan.com/bbs/UploadF...2404110330.jpg
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Unread 06-04-2005, 05:08 AM   #5
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Beauty mate!
What was used for machining, a mere thin endbit or a slitting saw?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 06:14 AM   #6
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How about sending one to a good reviewer instead of going to different forums and say stuff like 'it is much better than Swiftech'.
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Unread 06-04-2005, 08:42 AM   #7
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How about sending one to a good reviewer instead of going to different forums and say stuff like 'it is much better than Swiftech'.
i am doing this, i just sent a email to contact the procooling~~
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Unread 06-04-2005, 10:43 AM   #8
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...instead of going to different forums and say stuff like 'it is much better than Swiftech'.
Did you actually write that? (Sorry - can't find the link). What do you mean by "much better"? If it's the ability of the waterblock to transfer heat from the CPU to water, then did you also test a Swiftech block in your rig keeping things as identical otherwise as possible? BTW, which Swiftech block are you taking about?
On the other hand, if you meant something other than the ability of the block to transfer heat from CPU to water, what did you mean?

It certainly is pretty. Of course, the question with round blocks is whether you optimize for heat transfer, putting the inlet directly above the CPU contact area or optimize for ease of mounting, allowing a clamp to push down directly over the CPU contact area (like the Innovatek Rev3 blocks). From your photos, I can't make out which way you went...
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Unread 06-04-2005, 05:23 PM   #9
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He did, at OCAU.
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but from my friend's result, it is much better than Swiftech.
Since he didn't do the tests himself, he doesn't know which Swiftech block that is.
The MCW6000 has the same design, but with some improvements: I highly doubt this block is better than Swiftech's latest blocks.
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Unread 06-04-2005, 07:24 PM   #10
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Nice work. If the base thickness is right it should be a good low flow block. Pins might be excessively high though.
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Unread 06-04-2005, 10:42 PM   #11
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i know it is difficult for u to trust with out a test, so i decide to send one uint to procooling, some of our customer did a test with a Swiftech, but not MCW6002,
they did not record the test, just changed their block.

any way, test will demonstrate eveything , but can some one tell me a better wawy to contact procoolong to do a test?

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Unread 06-04-2005, 10:43 PM   #12
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by the way, does Swiftech invest this site?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 10:52 PM   #13
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by the way, does Swiftech invest this site?
BTW - does making wild unsubstantiated performance claims in an attempt to boost your ability to act as a profitable reseller for these blocks strike you as good business practise?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 11:22 PM   #14
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BTW - does making wild unsubstantiated performance claims in an attempt to boost your ability to act as a profitable reseller for these blocks strike you as good business practise?
yes, the performance has not been verified by a big person, so our tests ar nothing, and from the pics ,u can see its not cheap to build it, my friend has his own job and he spends his own time to do all the things as u make ur storm block, do u do that because a money purpose? of course not. as a reseller, i will by all the blocks, pay the international shipinng, and then sell it, but hardly to get something from it, but how many people will buy it and how many block can we produce? we ar not a factory, we just love pc as u do. it is nothing to do with profit :shrug:
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Unread 06-04-2005, 11:38 PM   #15
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...making wild unsubstantiated performance claims...
I'm still trying to figure out what claims have been made, never mind whether they are wild and unsubstantiated or not.
From imbabawu's comments, it sounds as though some customer replaced an unspecified Swiftech waterblock with this one (presumably with some sort of inlet and outlet and clamping system) and observed lower temps in some way.

As best as I can tell Swiftech does not invest in this site, although I cannot speak authoratively (I just read and post here).

As far as "it is difficult for u to trust with out a test" - well, yeah. And not just a test, but a whole series of 'em.
Have you actually spent any time looking at procooling?
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Unread 06-04-2005, 11:57 PM   #16
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I'm still trying to figure out what claims have been made, never mind whether they are wild and unsubstantiated or not.
From imbabawu's comments, it sounds as though some customer replaced an unspecified Swiftech waterblock with this one (presumably with some sort of inlet and outlet and clamping system) and observed lower temps in some way.

As best as I can tell Swiftech does not invest in this site, although I cannot speak authoratively (I just read and post here).

As far as "it is difficult for u to trust with out a test" - well, yeah. And not just a test, but a whole series of 'em.
Have you actually spent any time looking at procooling?

we have some tests,u they were old test, so hardly reorganise
and the tests ar here http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...=379305&page=2

and i am a newbie here, i dont how procooling works, but i sent two email to them~~~
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Unread 06-05-2005, 12:56 AM   #17
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Some of Chinese ppl are doing their best to hot sell their own products. I know these blks are made in China, the producer ask the other Chinese(reseller?) living in other countries like Australia, Canada or France to promot it. That is all.

These blks are being sold on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...sPageName=WDVW

Here is some stupid promoting thread in Canada forums: http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/s...ad.php?t=17508

Basicly in china these blks are dirt cheap. Making profit isn't their only interest?
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Unread 06-05-2005, 01:47 AM   #18
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Some of Chinese ppl are doing their best to hot sell their own products. I know these blks are made in China, the producer ask the other Chinese(reseller?) living in other countries like Australia, Canada or France to promot it. That is all.

These blks are being sold on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...sPageName=WDVW

Here is some stupid promoting thread in Canada forums: http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/s...ad.php?t=17508

Basicly in china these blks are dirt cheap. Making profit isn't their only interest?
yes, basicly some blocks are cheap in china, but not is one, u can check from some chinese site,it cost 300chinese yuan, almost AU $60 plus the shipping i just sell it at $65, and some of them are not like a reseller, them just buy 10 or 20 blocks them sell it by themslf, if u think it not worth that price, from the pics how he makes it, and compare some west product,put a rubber loop between a Acrylic Cover and a Copper base and sell them at the same level as this block, if u dont trust chinese stuff, just dont buy it.

and i am not sitting and say this is good, i post here is because i hope procooling can do a test for me
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Unread 06-05-2005, 02:33 AM   #19
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more thing for fun~~
3Dmark 03: 16588

Test System
Motherboard: 875P-T
Processor:Intel P4E 570J ES (2MB L2 3.80 GHz 800 MHz) @ 4.3G1.437v
Memory:G.SKILL ddr 2 x 512MB
Video Card: ASUS V9999Ultra
Hard Drive: Seagate 80G*2
Power Supply:400W+300W

http://img.pconline.com.cn/images/im...5428827470.JPG
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Unread 06-05-2005, 11:19 AM   #20
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more thing for fun~~
3Dmark 03: 16588

Test System
Motherboard: 875P-T
Processor:Intel P4E 570J ES (2MB L2 3.80 GHz 800 MHz) @ 4.3G1.437v
Memory:G.SKILL ddr 2 x 512MB
Video Card: ASUS V9999Ultra
Hard Drive: Seagate 80G*2
Power Supply:400W+300W

http://img.pconline.com.cn/images/im...5428827470.JPG
http://img.pconline.com.cn/images/im...3859961224.JPG
People are doing that with air cooling with similar systems. 3DMark is not a good example of performance for a water block.

Anyway Swiftech has no relations with this site, especially since unregistered (head engineeer for Swiftech) stopped posting here.

Try to e-mail pHaestus for a review request.
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