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Unread 04-16-2003, 01:59 PM   #1
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Finally, New System w/ Pics, Whitewater also.

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Room 70
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2-256 Twinmos 3200 DDR400 running at 420Mhz, FSB 210
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D-Tek Rad. Unpainted (I painted top and left side Only, for show)

More pics of watercooling system at:
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Video card generating good amount of heat, hot to touch.
Before new BFGTI4200 system was 2 degreee more than room.
Gonna put a fan blowing directly on video card. Pic of my card
http://www.bfgtech.com/ti_product_4200.html

Looking for input on Rad and air flow. I have 2 80mm fans blowing air in Rad and one L1A pulling.
THINKING OF THIS: Cut square in front of case and put Rad right to it. Forget the 2 fans blowing in air just pull cool room air w/ L1A. Might be Better????

One other weird event has taken place with Tygon tubing. My UV green dye is all Gone. What happened to it?? I think the tygon absorbed it. I have some of the mixture left over that I put into my system and it is just fine. My tubing is a little light brown now. I doing some test with the UV dye to see if air is a factor. I will know tomorrow.
What Your Thought on the Dye?

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Unread 04-16-2003, 02:02 PM   #2
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Also that 1048 is very silent.
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Very neat and tidy setup.

Well done.

The 1048's are really nice pumps for small in-case setups like yours.

I've found that the Tygon does seem to "absorb" impurities, and it will lose its clarity over time.
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This is why Im thinking of only keeping Tygon for the hard bends and do the rest with clear flex or some other thick wall vinyl tubing.
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It might evaporate. I notice my water does in a closed loop. Takes along time though for it to be significant. Check maybe once a week.

I've heard dyes do lose there strength over time from other posters responses.
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Those temps above are under Load by the way.

I have some left over mixture of the UV dye I used and put it into a closed Gatorade bottle and one open Gatorade bottle. Both dye's in both bottles still glow and are still present. This is 2 days they have been in bottles. The UV dye did not even last 30 hours in my system. It must be the TYGON!!!!! I would say my Tygon looks a light redish brown. Its still clear but has a tint now. I will to bet that Vinyl tubing would perform better with thick wall.

Im going to setup some more test.
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Could the dye have a problem with the metal in the block and radiator? What is tygon exactly? A form of plastic right? I noticed my Clearflex 1/2 tubing has a pink color from the water wetter.
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Could the dye have a problem with the metal in the block and radiator? What is tygon exactly? A form of plastic right? I noticed my Clearflex 1/2 tubing has a pink color from the water wetter.
Tygon is a form of rubber. It is highly resistant to chemicals. The metals won't do anything to it.

Clearflex has the same properties, but is available for a lower price (hint hint).

Note however that both of these have a fairly low max temp rating, around 74 degC.
[edit: max temp corrected]
The dye is pretty harmless stuff. If it reacts with anything, it would be the additive, where the additive would absorb or neutralize the dye.

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Note however that both of these have a fairly low max temp rating, around 35 degC.
Seriously? I didn't think it was this low... I know tygon melts (pretty good at that), but I melted some very high temps (100c+), I thought the max operating temp was considerably higher, 70c or so.
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Oops, you're right: specs here (2 page PDF).

Max recommended operating temp is 74 deg C (164 F).
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My Temps are in degF not degC under load.
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Unfortunately, I can't view your site (traceroute stops at a Verio router in Houston...)

I thought that Tygon blocked UV, did you ever get a decent 'glow' through the hoses?
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You can see how green it is in the pic. At night it was glowing real good. Then after 30 hours Bammm, it was gone. I have found this out from my test so far that it is NOT the presence of Air.
I left a open jar of the same exact mixture for 3 days and it is still just as bright.

Hopefully this test will tell me what it is.
Im taking two hose, one vinyl hose fitted together with a copper connection, and the other will be tygon fitted w/ plastic connection. Both will contain same mixture of UV dye and distilled water. Im willing to bet its the tygon tubing having some other reaction with the UV dye.

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**Who here USES UV green Dye in there system with Success**
Im sure somebody does. And what type of tubing/block are you using.

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My site is down right now. Great webhost, hey its only $1 per month.
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rest of pics can now be viewed at

www.chadandjodi.com/watercool
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Quote:
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Tygon is a form of rubber. ...
And here I thought it was PVC...
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