New asetek Pump

MadHacker · 06-29-2005, 11:10 AM

this is a pretty cool pump if it does all it can do well
WaterChill 12V pump system with integrated reservoir and USB/Software Control Panel
USB control.. rpm monitoring as well as speed control?
sounds prety slick
was wondering how well it performed

Ls7corvete · 06-29-2005, 11:48 AM

How much $$ though....

MadHacker · 06-29-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ls7corvete

How much $$ though....

If you scroll down to the botttom of the page in the link
You would see between € 59.00 & € 77.50

Jag · 06-29-2005, 12:17 PM

Thing is: how much of a substancial leap forward is it?
So far only the Apple G5 had such monitoring features associated wit the pump, or else you had to buy some extra equipment, and that was/is costly.
In terms of euro values, the price asked for this hardware is a par with the Laing DDC.
On the other hand it's a Hydor pump and no MTBF...

MadHacker · 06-29-2005, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag

Thing is: how much of a substancial leap forward is it?
So far only the Apple G5 had such monitoring features associated wit the pump, or else you had to buy some extra equipment, and that was/is costly.
In terms of euro values, the price asked for this hardware is a par with the Laing DDC.
On the other hand it's a Hydor pump and no MTBF...

I guess they figure that MTBF isn't that importatnt when they have all the monitoring failsafes.

Cathar · 06-29-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MadHacker

I guess they figure that MTBF isn't that importatnt when they have all the monitoring failsafes.

Nor are figures like wattage, pressure head, flow, noise level, a PQ graph, etc, etc.

Far better to just say "this is the best pump you can get, trust us".

MadHacker · 06-29-2005, 06:23 PM

I just guess someone will have to test it...

jaydee · 06-29-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar

Nor are figures like wattage, pressure head, flow, noise level, a PQ graph, etc, etc.

Far better to just say "this is the best pump you can get, trust us".

Who cares about the performance specs, it comes in "6 different colours"!!!

kaotic504 · 06-29-2005, 09:30 PM

pump-wise it looks to be exactly like their SL35 but w/ added electronics. love the monitoring, but quite frankly, i don't think i need it that badly.

maxSaleen · 06-29-2005, 10:17 PM

Personally I think it is an L25, but we are splitting hairs here. The monitoring features would be great, but I'm not sure that they would warrent the price. The c-systems pump supports RPM monitoring, right? If so hooking one of those up to a fan header or T-Balancer would provide the same features. Revolutionary.... hell no. Just another product for the market. If it was introduced two years ago it might have stirred some more leaves.

RVWinkle · 06-29-2005, 10:56 PM

I like the bullet point feature "Street respect." That's certainly something my MCRES-1000 is missing, Swiftech gear won't get you any props in da hood. Now I can finally wash my arm with the rub on "Mom" tatoo...

I like the concept but I don't like the software and pump, perhaps I should just get a colored tupperware container and WC like the old school playaz.

Ls7corvete · 06-29-2005, 11:46 PM

I think it should be mentioned that this is a product designed with their customer base in mind and except for the price I think that they are dead on with this pump.

Lothar5150 · 06-30-2005, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar

Nor are figures like wattage, pressure head, flow, noise level, a PQ graph, etc, etc.

Far better to just say "this is the best pump you can get, trust us".

Now now Cathar play nice with the other manufactures

MadHacker · 06-30-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar

Nor are figures like wattage, pressure head, flow, noise level, a PQ graph, etc, etc.

Far better to just say "this is the best pump you can get, trust us".

well I emailed them for the above specs...
I'll C what they send me if anything...

Cathar · 06-30-2005, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothar5150

Now now Cathar play nice with the other manufactures

Requesting specification figures that should be provided is quite dfferent from bagging a product.

Lothar5150 · 06-30-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar

Requesting specification figures that should be provided is quite dfferent from bagging a product.

Agreed

...BTW that last post was a j/k. A mutual friend told me it may have been misinterpreted.

Arivaldo · 07-01-2005, 10:00 AM

Some specs by asetek:

12V DC Standard Pump & Reservoir unit.
Power consumption: 7W
Qmax: 900 l/hm
Hmax: 150 cm

It seems to me like a miracle.
It is a 2 pole stator with aquarium regular impeller.
They claim to get 15 L/min (900 L/h) with 7 W at such motor design...
... i can not believe on that specs...

http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?sh...on=1&menuID=-1

Risky · 07-20-2005, 06:22 AM

And the Xtremed version claims:
Qmax: 1020 l/hm
Hmax: 240 cm

Hopefully someoen will get these out to test. Asetek normally send kits out for review so I guess we'll see some reults sooner or later.

TerraMex · 07-23-2005, 11:26 AM

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1244/
Joe got one... let's see what comes out (besides "nice colors").

iakovl · 07-23-2005, 01:51 PM

looks good
i found it in frozencpu for 130$ , yep . very expensive

but still very cool

TerraMex · 07-30-2005, 11:21 AM

http://www.hardwarexl.com/index.php?...tart=0&lang=en
first one i've seen.

gazorp · 07-30-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerraMex

http://www.hardwarexl.com/index.php?...tart=0&lang=en
first one i've seen.

Aside from the pretty pictures, that was a hard review to digest. No real performance numbers, and he even used two different rads when tessting them!

I can't wait till procooling gets one for review!

jaydee · 07-30-2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazorp

Aside from the pretty pictures, that was a hard review to digest. No real performance numbers, and he even used two different rads when tessting them!

I can't wait till procooling gets one for review!

It was more of a 7 page ad. Went in thinking $130 is way to much for it and came out thining $130 is way to much for it. You can get a Gen-X Mak4 1190GPH 55watt pump for that price. http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...uct_Code=GEN-X

ricecrispi · 07-30-2005, 07:25 PM

First, why would you want to add speedcontrol to L20/L25 that are underpowered pumps and already quiet. If the pump was l30/l35 this would make sense to me but 225 GPH and 4 ft of head is too weak.

I think Astek bought a bunch of L20/L25 and they don't know how to move them.
The res, gizmo's, and a new shell are probably to hide whats under the hood, L25/L20 pump and to fool people into buying those pumps.
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...roduct=HD12202
Impeller is same design as l20/l25 and specs are about the same.

$130 is too much money for a underperforming pump with a few monitoring add-ons. VFD is about $40-50 anyways and that is where most of the cost are going to. http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-36.html $60 VFD astek unit.

I rather save my $130, buy a storm block and add another decent pump with that money.

EDIT:

Ow i forgot it has two fan speed controllers aswell. Something H20 users probably have to many off.

jaydee · 07-30-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricecrispi

First, why would you want to add speedcontrol to L20/L25 that are underpowered pumps and already quiet. If the pump was l30/l35 this would make sense to me but 225 GPH and 4 ft of head is too weak.

I think Astek bought a bunch of L20/L25 and they don't know how to move them.
The res, gizmo's, and a new shell are probably to hide whats under the hood, L25/L20 pump and to fool people into buying those pumps.
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...roduct=HD12202
Impeller is same design as l20/l25 and specs are about the same.

$130 is too much money for a underperforming pump with a few monitoring add-ons. VFD is about $40-50 anyways and that is where most of the cost are going to. http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-36.html $60 VFD astek unit.

I rather save my $130, buy a storm block and add another decent pump with that money.

EDIT:

Ow i forgot it has two fan speed controllers aswell. Something H20 users probably have to many off.

The main difference between this pump and a stock L25 is it is 12VDC and not AC.

06-29-2005, 11:10 AM	#1
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	New asetek Pump this is a pretty cool pump if it does all it can do well WaterChill 12V pump system with integrated reservoir and USB/Software Control Panel USB control.. rpm monitoring as well as speed control? sounds prety slick was wondering how well it performed __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

06-29-2005, 06:23 PM	#7
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	I just guess someone will have to test it... __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

07-23-2005, 11:26 AM	#19
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	http://www.overclockers.com/articles1244/ Joe got one... let's see what comes out (besides "nice colors"). __________________ "we need more cowbell."

07-30-2005, 11:21 AM	#21
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	http://www.hardwarexl.com/index.php?...tart=0&lang=en first one i've seen. __________________ "we need more cowbell."

06-29-2005, 11:48 AM	#2
Ls7corvete Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: FL Posts: 164	How much $$ though....

06-29-2005, 12:17 PM	#4
Jag Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 179	Thing is: how much of a substancial leap forward is it? So far only the Apple G5 had such monitoring features associated wit the pump, or else you had to buy some extra equipment, and that was/is costly. In terms of euro values, the price asked for this hardware is a par with the Laing DDC. On the other hand it's a Hydor pump and no MTBF...

06-29-2005, 09:30 PM	#9
kaotic504 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 86	pump-wise it looks to be exactly like their SL35 but w/ added electronics. love the monitoring, but quite frankly, i don't think i need it that badly.

06-29-2005, 10:17 PM	#10
maxSaleen Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 383	Personally I think it is an L25, but we are splitting hairs here. The monitoring features would be great, but I'm not sure that they would warrent the price. The c-systems pump supports RPM monitoring, right? If so hooking one of those up to a fan header or T-Balancer would provide the same features. Revolutionary.... hell no. Just another product for the market. If it was introduced two years ago it might have stirred some more leaves.

06-29-2005, 10:56 PM	#11
RVWinkle Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Richmond Posts: 13	I like the bullet point feature "Street respect." That's certainly something my MCRES-1000 is missing, Swiftech gear won't get you any props in da hood. Now I can finally wash my arm with the rub on "Mom" tatoo... I like the concept but I don't like the software and pump, perhaps I should just get a colored tupperware container and WC like the old school playaz.

06-29-2005, 11:46 PM	#12
Ls7corvete Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: FL Posts: 164	I think it should be mentioned that this is a product designed with their customer base in mind and except for the price I think that they are dead on with this pump.

07-01-2005, 10:00 AM	#17
Arivaldo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 45	Some specs by asetek: 12V DC Standard Pump & Reservoir unit. Power consumption: 7W Qmax: 900 l/hm Hmax: 150 cm It seems to me like a miracle. It is a 2 pole stator with aquarium regular impeller. They claim to get 15 L/min (900 L/h) with 7 W at such motor design... ... i can not believe on that specs... http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?sh...on=1&menuID=-1

07-20-2005, 06:22 AM	#18
Risky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Posts: 96	And the Xtremed version claims: Qmax: 1020 l/hm Hmax: 240 cm Hopefully someoen will get these out to test. Asetek normally send kits out for review so I guess we'll see some reults sooner or later.

07-23-2005, 01:51 PM	#20
iakovl Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: israel Posts: 57	looks good i found it in frozencpu for 130$ , yep . very expensive but still very cool

07-30-2005, 07:25 PM	#24
ricecrispi Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: california Posts: 429	First, why would you want to add speedcontrol to L20/L25 that are underpowered pumps and already quiet. If the pump was l30/l35 this would make sense to me but 225 GPH and 4 ft of head is too weak. I think Astek bought a bunch of L20/L25 and they don't know how to move them. The res, gizmo's, and a new shell are probably to hide whats under the hood, L25/L20 pump and to fool people into buying those pumps. http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...roduct=HD12202 Impeller is same design as l20/l25 and specs are about the same. $130 is too much money for a underperforming pump with a few monitoring add-ons. VFD is about $40-50 anyways and that is where most of the cost are going to. http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-pmp-36.html $60 VFD astek unit. I rather save my $130, buy a storm block and add another decent pump with that money. EDIT: Ow i forgot it has two fan speed controllers aswell. Something H20 users probably have to many off.

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