AMD specs

bigben2k · 10-22-2002, 02:08 PM

Here's a stupid question:

What's the max NON-OPERATIONAL temp that an Athlon XP can survive? I can't find this specification on the AMD website.

Since I'm starting a new thread, let's add AMD specs, for the processor, and the socket!

AMD publication 25175:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf

(I'll add the contents later!)

morphling1 · 10-22-2002, 03:26 PM

Now why would you need that, are you gonna cook it

myv65 · 10-22-2002, 03:59 PM

For the answer you seek, you need to look at the white papers on the actual CPU. IIRC, they specify a maximum die temperature of 90°C for everything up to ~1100 MHz and 95°C for everything faster. It's been a long time since I looked and I can't say if the 95°C number applies to the TBred line, but would guess that to be the case.

morphling1 · 10-22-2002, 04:39 PM

Yes we know that, but that's max operating temp. he asked for non-operational, that's why I made a joke

myv65 · 10-22-2002, 05:41 PM

I realize he asked for non-operational, but that info isn't in the white papers. If it isn't already there, AMD does not provide the info. If asked directly, my bet says they'll spout the numbers from the white docs and nothing more.

MadDogMe · 10-22-2002, 11:10 PM

It's gonna vary chip to chip right?, even the 90DegC was only a ball park figure right?, the lowest high # it'll go...

ezlid · 10-23-2002, 02:33 PM

And the answer is:
-40C to 100C
Found in bigben2k's link in section 8.8, Table 13 - Absolute Ratings under Tstorage.
Everything electrical that is transported or stored (in other words, everything) has shipping/storage specs. Just gotta look in the right place. A shipping container sitting in the hot sun can get pretty hot.

An interesting side note, in Section 7.1, Table 5 states the Max Die Temp is 85C, but no Min Die Temp. In the case of extreme cooling, i.e. nitrogen, -40C is nothing. I wonder if an operating CPU has no minimum temp?

MadDogMe · 10-24-2002, 03:08 AM

Should'nt of thought they'd be any different, no moving parts or anything...

Well there you go, it's safe to poach or boil

...
Just don't try flambueing it

...

Dix Dogfight · 10-24-2002, 09:08 AM

Quote:

I wonder if an operating CPU has no minimum temp?

At a certain temp the transistors will stop functioning as a switching unit and act/behave as a resistor.
I heard the figure in one of my classes a few years ago but don't remember. Think it was around -120C
cheers

bigben2k · 10-24-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by morphling1
Now why would you need that, are you gonna cook it

Well, a friend of mine asked me about it, because he's got an unusual TIM solution (see ATTA tape thread). It seems that applying it requires a high temp curing process, for about an hour.

I also found (in there) specs for clamping pressure, where a longitudinally applied pressure is prescribed. This makes me wonder about the 4 bolt mounting solution.

Here's a pic of what I interpreted from it:

bigben2k · 10-24-2002, 02:28 PM

Socket A specs can be found here

10-22-2002, 02:08 PM	#1
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	AMD specs Here's a stupid question: What's the max NON-OPERATIONAL temp that an Athlon XP can survive? I can't find this specification on the AMD website. Since I'm starting a new thread, let's add AMD specs, for the processor, and the socket! AMD publication 25175: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf (I'll add the contents later!) __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101 Last edited by bigben2k; 10-22-2002 at 02:18 PM.

10-22-2002, 03:26 PM	#2
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	Now why would you need that, are you gonna cook it __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

10-22-2002, 04:39 PM	#4
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	Yes we know that, but that's max operating temp. he asked for non-operational, that's why I made a joke __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

10-24-2002, 02:28 PM	#11
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Socket A specs can be found here __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

10-22-2002, 03:59 PM	#3
myv65 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: home Posts: 365	For the answer you seek, you need to look at the white papers on the actual CPU. IIRC, they specify a maximum die temperature of 90°C for everything up to ~1100 MHz and 95°C for everything faster. It's been a long time since I looked and I can't say if the 95°C number applies to the TBred line, but would guess that to be the case.

10-22-2002, 05:41 PM	#5
myv65 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: home Posts: 365	I realize he asked for non-operational, but that info isn't in the white papers. If it isn't already there, AMD does not provide the info. If asked directly, my bet says they'll spout the numbers from the white docs and nothing more.

10-22-2002, 11:10 PM	#6
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	It's gonna vary chip to chip right?, even the 90DegC was only a ball park figure right?, the lowest high # it'll go...

10-23-2002, 02:33 PM	#7
ezlid Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 55	And the answer is: -40C to 100C Found in bigben2k's link in section 8.8, Table 13 - Absolute Ratings under Tstorage. Everything electrical that is transported or stored (in other words, everything) has shipping/storage specs. Just gotta look in the right place. A shipping container sitting in the hot sun can get pretty hot. An interesting side note, in Section 7.1, Table 5 states the Max Die Temp is 85C, but no Min Die Temp. In the case of extreme cooling, i.e. nitrogen, -40C is nothing. I wonder if an operating CPU has no minimum temp?

10-24-2002, 03:08 AM	#8
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	Should'nt of thought they'd be any different, no moving parts or anything... Well there you go, it's safe to poach or boil ... Just don't try flambueing it ...

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