Water block for HDD?

deky · 09-20-2003, 01:45 PM

Hi everyone,

Where do I find water blocks for HDD water cooling?
I'am getting myself a WaterChill, but I don't know where to find water blocks for 2 HDD's, one SCSI and one S-ATA 150.

I'am looking this in Europe so any online Europe stores are fine with me. I'am in Austria.

Thanks for help.

joeyd · 09-20-2003, 03:30 PM

Do you really need to cool this ? I have 2 200gig 8 meg cache wd drivers and they don't heat up and I have a very low volt 80mm fan that I can hear the hardrives spin up over the fan. So its very quiet

deky · 09-21-2003, 02:11 AM

Mine is heating up, I'am graphic designer and I use Photoshop, 3D Studio MAX etc. so HDD is working pretty much on my working day 8-10h.
And HDD water blocks would look cool

but can't find them.

Do you know where can I buy them?

Thanks.

joeyd · 09-21-2003, 03:23 AM

http://www.koolance.com/products/pro...?code=HDC1-A01 dunno if its any good . Mabye someone c an make u one on the forums . Mabye someone like #roter or bladerunner. They are very good at that stuff. Or some others.

What kind of case do u have ? Do you have fans passing the hardrive ? I use 3dstudio max alot too sometimes it hits my hardrive for hours at a time and they never get hot

siavash_s_s · 09-21-2003, 06:25 AM

get one from rotor, he has a all copper block im thinking ( he isnt paying me to say this... seriously (wheres my money rotor?!))

dogbait · 09-21-2003, 07:09 AM

Surprised no one has mentioned these hard disk water blocks from coolercases. They look pretty nifty too...

Teus · 09-21-2003, 08:01 AM

I'll make one myself this week. just some copperplates screwed to the top and side of the HDD, and a copper pipe soldered to it. HDD's produce very little heat after all

that way I can cover my entire HDD with noise-isolating mats

joeyd · 09-21-2003, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teus
I'll make one myself this week. just some copperplates screwed to the top and side of the HDD, and a copper pipe soldered to it. HDD's produce very little heat after all

that way I can cover my entire HDD with noise-isolating mats

That doesn't sound smart at all . I'm sure someone can make them really cheap for u. It doesn't look that hard. U just need 1 channel to maze around the top of the hardrive .

dogbait · 09-21-2003, 09:02 AM

Here's another very sweet, noise insulated, watercooled hard disk block:

Celestial_fury · 09-21-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dogbait
Surprised no one has mentioned these hard disk water blocks from coolercases. They look pretty nifty too...

These must be a REAL flow rate killer with all the 90 degree bends.

Quick Q:

why do some HDD blocks cool the sided ONLY, and others cool the sides and tops?

FurY

Celestial_fury · 09-21-2003, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Celestial_fury
The EVO cooler must be a REAL flow rate killer with all the 90 degree bends.

Quick Q:

why do some HDD blocks cool the sided ONLY, and others cool the sides and tops?

FurY

bigben2k · 09-21-2003, 11:14 AM

Did anyone look into the Innovatech HDD block?

The whole side versus top has been debated here quite often. The bottom line is that the top temp you can expect from an HDD is ~45 deg C, and the only viable solution to cool it is more than likely through the sides, even though it may not be the most efficient. Top cooling usually has to go through an insulating layer, so it just doesn't work. Then there are individual components on the PCB... (results may vary: check your HDD)

(see link in my sig) So I opted to make side blocks, and provide room for air cooling those small components, with heatsinks added. The blocks can run in parallel within my loop, for minimal impact, and still have enough flow to actually do something. A 40 mm fan ought to do the trick, but I've got room for an 80 mm.

Rubber grommets or mounts ought to keep the vibrations from reverberating through the case, if not, I'd just hang/suspend sound baffling plates. For the level of cooling it provides, there's no sense in an extravagant solution, IMO.

deky · 09-21-2003, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joeyd
Do you really need to cool this ?

I have VapoChill and WaterChill, and want to have this too, to look cool :-)

deky · 09-21-2003, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dogbait
Here's another very sweet, noise insulated, watercooled hard disk block:

Where did you find this, where can I see more about it?

deky · 09-21-2003, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
Did anyone look into the Innovatech HDD block?

Can you give me Innovatech URL, I can't seem to find them online to see their products.

I would rather take that plain block for HDD, for bottom/top. I'am not sure that this SIDE only will cool down my HDD.
I think top/bottom would do much better job.

dogbait · 09-21-2003, 03:12 PM

Found the HD waterblock at a german site who make some quality products.

http://www.heatkiller.de/

deky · 09-22-2003, 01:47 AM

Thanks! I'll check the site.

BrianW · 09-22-2003, 01:54 AM

Rotor has a pretty nice copper hd block. Check his site out: HD_Block_CuCu

BrianW

deky · 09-22-2003, 02:16 AM

Hi Brian,

what is better:
HD_Block_alal
or
HD_Block_CuCu

BrianW · 09-22-2003, 02:18 AM

Depends on your system. If you have all copper/brass in your loop, go with the cu, if you are all al, then go al.

BrianW

deky · 09-22-2003, 03:21 AM

What I don't understand if you check this link below, is that last picture of waterblocko for HDD.
So as we can see there is only one tube in that whole block?
What for is then whole block if water will go only through that tube only?

http://www.low-noise.de/shop/shop.ph..._str=1;-1;711;

msv · 09-22-2003, 03:54 AM

It´s for the side of the HDD. You buy them in pair and connect them with some tubing.

edit: Think I misunderstood You. I guess the rest of the block is just for having somewhere to place the screwholes, and it was cheaper to leave all the copper than mill it off.
regards
Mikael S.

BrianW · 09-22-2003, 10:22 AM

It is for two hard drives as well.

BrianW

MMZ_TimeLord · 09-22-2003, 11:44 AM

If components on your HD controller boards are your big concern... flip the drives over and let the heat rise off of them.

My two 120Gig 7200RPM Maxtor drives only get hot when I don't have a fan on them (quiet, squirril cage design). I am thinking of a water block to put between them... but, after looking at the various designs here, I think I will just make a block that can sit on the base of the motor of each one and have the drive flipped upside down so that the motor and controller board is on top.

/me runs off to do some design work...

MMZ_TimeLord · 09-23-2003, 02:30 PM

How about this...

09-20-2003, 01:45 PM	#1
deky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 8	Water block for HDD? Hi everyone, Where do I find water blocks for HDD water cooling? I'am getting myself a WaterChill, but I don't know where to find water blocks for 2 HDD's, one SCSI and one S-ATA 150. I'am looking this in Europe so any online Europe stores are fine with me. I'am in Austria. Thanks for help.

09-20-2003, 03:30 PM	#2
joeyd Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 142	Do you really need to cool this ? I have 2 200gig 8 meg cache wd drivers and they don't heat up and I have a very low volt 80mm fan that I can hear the hardrives spin up over the fan. So its very quiet __________________ soyo dragon kt333. axp 2000 1gig of ddr333 ati radeon 9700 pro My Heatware

09-21-2003, 03:23 AM	#4
joeyd Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 142	http://www.koolance.com/products/pro...?code=HDC1-A01 dunno if its any good . Mabye someone c an make u one on the forums . Mabye someone like #roter or bladerunner. They are very good at that stuff. Or some others. What kind of case do u have ? Do you have fans passing the hardrive ? I use 3dstudio max alot too sometimes it hits my hardrive for hours at a time and they never get hot __________________ soyo dragon kt333. axp 2000 1gig of ddr333 ati radeon 9700 pro My Heatware

09-21-2003, 06:25 AM	#5
siavash_s_s Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: here n there Posts: 194	get one from rotor, he has a all copper block im thinking ( he isnt paying me to say this... seriously (wheres my money rotor?!)) __________________ buy me a mill

09-21-2003, 11:14 AM	#12
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Did anyone look into the Innovatech HDD block? The whole side versus top has been debated here quite often. The bottom line is that the top temp you can expect from an HDD is ~45 deg C, and the only viable solution to cool it is more than likely through the sides, even though it may not be the most efficient. Top cooling usually has to go through an insulating layer, so it just doesn't work. Then there are individual components on the PCB... (results may vary: check your HDD) (see link in my sig) So I opted to make side blocks, and provide room for air cooling those small components, with heatsinks added. The blocks can run in parallel within my loop, for minimal impact, and still have enough flow to actually do something. A 40 mm fan ought to do the trick, but I've got room for an 80 mm. Rubber grommets or mounts ought to keep the vibrations from reverberating through the case, if not, I'd just hang/suspend sound baffling plates. For the level of cooling it provides, there's no sense in an extravagant solution, IMO. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

09-21-2003, 02:11 AM	#3
deky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 8	Mine is heating up, I'am graphic designer and I use Photoshop, 3D Studio MAX etc. so HDD is working pretty much on my working day 8-10h. And HDD water blocks would look cool but can't find them. Do you know where can I buy them? Thanks.

09-21-2003, 07:09 AM	#6
dogbait Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 70	Surprised no one has mentioned these hard disk water blocks from coolercases. They look pretty nifty too...

09-21-2003, 08:01 AM	#7
Teus Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belgium\Ieper Posts: 65	I'll make one myself this week. just some copperplates screwed to the top and side of the HDD, and a copper pipe soldered to it. HDD's produce very little heat after all that way I can cover my entire HDD with noise-isolating mats

09-21-2003, 09:02 AM	#9
dogbait Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 70	Here's another very sweet, noise insulated, watercooled hard disk block:

09-21-2003, 03:12 PM	#16
dogbait Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 70	Found the HD waterblock at a german site who make some quality products. http://www.heatkiller.de/

09-22-2003, 01:47 AM	#17
deky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 8	Thanks! I'll check the site.

09-22-2003, 01:54 AM	#18
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Rotor has a pretty nice copper hd block. Check his site out: HD_Block_CuCu BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

09-22-2003, 02:16 AM	#19
deky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 8	Hi Brian, what is better: HD_Block_alal or HD_Block_CuCu

09-22-2003, 02:18 AM	#20
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Depends on your system. If you have all copper/brass in your loop, go with the cu, if you are all al, then go al. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

09-22-2003, 03:21 AM	#21
deky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 8	What I don't understand if you check this link below, is that last picture of waterblocko for HDD. So as we can see there is only one tube in that whole block? What for is then whole block if water will go only through that tube only? http://www.low-noise.de/shop/shop.ph..._str=1;-1;711;

09-22-2003, 03:54 AM	#22
msv Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 336	It´s for the side of the HDD. You buy them in pair and connect them with some tubing. edit: Think I misunderstood You. I guess the rest of the block is just for having somewhere to place the screwholes, and it was cheaper to leave all the copper than mill it off. regards Mikael S. __________________ The only constant factor in all Your failures is You. Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnen mihi habis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

09-22-2003, 10:22 AM	#23
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	It is for two hard drives as well. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

09-22-2003, 11:44 AM	#24
MMZ_TimeLord Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Mateo, CA, USA, Earth Posts: 433	If components on your HD controller boards are your big concern... flip the drives over and let the heat rise off of them. My two 120Gig 7200RPM Maxtor drives only get hot when I don't have a fan on them (quiet, squirril cage design). I am thinking of a water block to put between them... but, after looking at the various designs here, I think I will just make a block that can sit on the base of the motor of each one and have the drive flipped upside down so that the motor and controller board is on top. /me runs off to do some design work... __________________ MMZ>TimeLord "Oooooooooh... that's gonna leave a mark!" Last edited by MMZ_TimeLord; 09-23-2003 at 01:45 PM.

09-23-2003, 02:30 PM	#25
MMZ_TimeLord Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Mateo, CA, USA, Earth Posts: 433	How about this... __________________ MMZ>TimeLord "Oooooooooh... that's gonna leave a mark!"

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