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tim-may 06-07-2002 06:03 PM

sorry all, but im gonna have to go with IBM. they royally f-ed over a lot of people with their 75GXP series drives.

o and w00t for class-action law suits (get my damn 220 bucks back)

iceheart 06-07-2002 08:20 PM

My 75GXP is still chugging along nicely after almost 24/7 work for a year now.

tim-may 06-07-2002 08:51 PM

a year now huh? i think mine died......within 6 months of when i bought it. it got sent to maylasia, and i got it back a week later, plugged it, and it died AGAIN! 2 weeks later. ibm says theyll replace it with a 60GXP drive but.....those are failing almost as much as the 75GXPs are. so i say screw them until the lawsuit goes through, then ill get myself another nice 120GB maxtor drive and have some fun with the on-board raid on my motherboard.:)

iceheart 06-07-2002 09:03 PM

Also I've recommended lots of my friends to buy IBM drives because of quality, I have daily contact with 5 of them (2 75GXP, 2 60GXP and 1 120GXP) which all have perfect service records (Longest being 8 months and the newest being just above 2 weeks old.).

Joe 06-07-2002 09:18 PM

IBM is starting to SUCK

this last week at work I had to RMA 6 IBM workstations that just stopped working out of no where... and we had 2 IBM servers die in the last 2 weeks.

This is the reason I am spearheading Moving Dell into the states DA network and getting IBM out.

IBM's customer support has dissapeared... now its only finger pointing, or pointless arguments.

Brad 06-07-2002 10:50 PM

I hate ibm over the hdd thing, they deserve all the votes they get

Vector86 06-25-2002 09:36 PM

i have a packard bell monitor from 1989 that still works PERFECTLY, my vote goes to IBM becuase, while trying to fix an old 1995 aptiva, i noticed that the list price on their website for a new motherboard and processor (supposedly the only parts that fit in this case) was almost $1700 US dollars, not to mention that when i called tech support, they seemed to have forgotten that they made that kind of computer:mad:

Joe 06-25-2002 11:47 PM

Well I am vote'n for IBM as worst :)

I am in charge of getting our IBM gear out of the state and replacing them with Dell. So far Dell ROCKS IT HARD compared to IBM!

Cova 06-26-2002 03:51 PM

Most of my OEM experience comes with servers as opposed to workstations - and I must say that Dell and Compaq make very nice servers. And I guess I'll be working with HP servers now since they bought Compaq (and we were in a contract with Compaq to only buy their stuff) - but from what I've seen they'll be keeping the Compaq Proliant line - so I like them still.

For worst - I had the bad fortune to have to work on a Packaged Hell once. It only took me an hour and a 1/2 to put a second HD into it. It gets my vote.

DarkEdge 10-07-2002 07:34 PM

I believe that 95% of anyone who has worked on or owned a Packard Bell would vote them. I couldn't ****ing stand them. Considering HP and Compaq have always been like brothers even before their merger talks and what not, I don't seperate them. If either one is better then the other, I'd say HP. They have gadgets. I like compaq though, simply because they bring jobs to Houston. Dell, as of late though....sucks.

mfpmax 10-08-2002 12:30 AM

Sorta an invalid poll, OEM for what product(s).

For Computers, they all suck, we haven't bought a desktop since the 386 days...except this piece of crap Micron to hold my mom over for awhile.

Sony's CD products suck

Toshiba's CD products I like, got a 12x SCSI thats still kicking.

IBM...hard drives anyone?

Compaq/Packard Bell, none of our products are compatible with any of your hardware or Windows

HP(not personal experience, but i've replaced a few things on a friend's sister's computer...What? Replace everything again!

Dell, dude, you broke the internet server...

Gateway, what is tech support?

I need to become an EE and have a fab in my backyard so I only can complain about my own work.

pHaestus 10-22-2002 11:46 AM

My IBM T30 notebook is sweet.

sincerely
-phaestus

BillA 10-22-2002 11:54 AM

probably before most,
but you missed the SUPER TURD = Zenith
the lying (computer) inept thieves

Joe 10-22-2002 12:03 PM

hey... dont talk shit about my ZDS 8086!

:p

mfpmax 10-22-2002 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unregistered
probably before most,
but you missed the SUPER TURD = Zenith
the lying (computer) inept thieves

Didn't miss it...most have chosen to forgot it...

Yo-DUH_87 10-22-2002 02:49 PM

Why are acers and emachines absent from the list? Oh, well, I'll have to throw my vote in for dell (duddddddddde, I'm so not getting a dell...)...

ksw 10-22-2002 03:12 PM

dell's accutally THE best when it comes to OEM. at least if you think of their new DImension 8200 series. Now that i call USER-FRIENDLY. but the Optiplex series still suck. really hard. dont forget deep.
at least the come with 2/3 pci places free... :/

Yo-DUH_87 10-22-2002 03:46 PM

The experiences that I've had with dell were back in the "old days," I think that it was a 200 MHz I was repairing for a friend, ugg. I now have the mainboard in a special drawer, waiting for Episode 2, attack of the hammer :D

They are not so bad now, but the only OEMs I've had contact with in the past while are Acers and E machines (I did work on a HP, but not enough to warrent a "hate rating"). I h8 acers (at least the way they are built), they are so user unfriendly, the case has vampire tendacys, and everything is either screwed, rivited, welded, or glued in! It took me 1.5 hrs to replace a bad heatsink fan (not kidding, also sliced open my hands several times)!!!

E Machines are not all that bad, they just leave something to be desired in the area of preformance, and quality. Already replaced the PSU fan (which was a pain), and completely reworked the system several times. Don't get me wrong, they are nice computers, but I'd rather build my own!

Ok, that is enough ranting for now...

Joe 10-22-2002 04:15 PM

Dell is the only option when it comes to servers... I have been burned by IBM about 15 times this year on both workstations and servers... Dell has treated us right, with some killer hardware, cheap prices, awesome support, and overall great represenstation by their company.

( not to meantion their sales reps rock to go out drinking and playing pool with :p)

shaft01 10-22-2002 04:21 PM

I voted packard hell......BUT ONLY because the worst machine currently built isnt on the list.......E-Machines.

I am the guy that gets to go fix the issues that arise when cable modem installation techs have problems and cant resolve them...... E-machines really SUCK and account for the largest portion of my headaches.......Note the E stands for ERROR......

mobuis 10-22-2002 05:24 PM

compaq sucks:-)

Yo-DUH_87 10-22-2002 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Dell is the only option when it comes to servers... I have been burned by IBM about 15 times this year on both workstations and servers... Dell has treated us right, with some killer hardware, cheap prices, awesome support, and overall great represenstation by their company.

( not to meantion their sales reps rock to go out drinking and playing pool with :p)

Dell is a great company to work with, and most of their later computers are great (the earlier ones STINK ROYALY!!), but it is not as l33t as building your own!

ymboc 10-22-2002 06:56 PM

Compaq. Short Warranties. Shitty Products.

My Presario 1685 (Laptop!) couldnt even pass 5 minutes of a prime95 torture test. That and I was forced to RMA it within the first year over a shitty voltage converter/battery charger.

When I peered through the open PCMCIA slot I saw a 1mm gap between the ultra-fat-foam-TIM and the processor (k6-2).

Since have tried everything I can to improve the thing but it's still a POS.

-ymboc

Can O' Beans 10-26-2002 11:25 PM

I voted for Packard Bell. They're long gone in my area, but the horrid memories still haunt me.


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