Which OEM do you least like?

Brad · 04-06-2002, 05:47 AM

my pick can't be for HP, cause they make nice printers and scanners.

As gateway took over several good New Zealand computer companies, then just left the NZ market I have to vote for gateway. Their computers suck too.

I couldn't vote dell either, even though they don't do amd stuff. I just love my Dell notebooks

gogo · 04-06-2002, 10:36 AM

I had to go with Compaq, mostly since Packard bell is like gone here and I have atleast managed to get some reusable parts out a few of their machines.

Joe · 04-06-2002, 11:03 AM

Packard Bell was bought by NEC

jtroutma · 04-06-2002, 12:12 PM

No matter what anyone else says Packard Bell WAS and still IS this worst OEM I have yet to work on.

Granted Compaq follows as a very close second

That's my 2 dents....... err cents

Brad · 04-06-2002, 03:31 PM

we still see heaps of packard bell stuff here. I didn't know it was bought by nec though

RedTalon19 · 04-07-2002, 07:08 AM

taco hell -err i mean packard hell -err i mean p-a-c-k-a-r-d b-e-l-l... whew knew i could say it

Psychotic · 04-07-2002, 09:17 AM

Here's another vote for Packard Bell. I used to have one a lonnngggg lonnggggg time ago and boy did their customer support suck some serious hind tit.

jag_e_fattig · 04-07-2002, 10:00 AM

i hate those sh*tpaqs with passion

Heavy_Equipment · 04-07-2002, 11:31 AM

I had to sit for a minute and decide between HP and Compaq.

HP got the vote.

I seem to be the tech guy here at home lol. I live with friends, and we have 5 systems in the house (3 are mine) and I get the chore of keeping everything running smoothly.

My buddy owned a Compaq for the last few years, and it was a pain in the ass. He replaced it with a Hewlet-Packard... and that system is a complete pain in the ass.

At least I scored a nice monitor, and some usable parts from the compaq. He won't let me build a system for him, because he's worried about support. Funny, I am the support for the POS oem's he gets anyway.

I should let him call HP for every stupid thing.

gogo · 04-07-2002, 11:53 AM

If this goes on long enough might need to change it to HP/Compaq

Haddy · 04-07-2002, 01:02 PM

hatem all.....need to add "all of the above" to the poll....well dell is ok, they do have good tec support (too bad u need it all the time) i swear my laptop died like twice a year....mobo blows here cpu die there....screen splits there (wuz just sittin there workin and it just started to crack scared the shit outa me, thought some demond possesed my comp)

Pyrotechnic · 04-07-2002, 01:05 PM

www.compaqsucks.com

gogo · 04-07-2002, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Haddy
screen splits there (wuz just sittin there workin and it just started to crack scared the shit outa me, thought some demond possesed my comp)

The glass? Damn. I can imagine the call for an RMA. must have been fun.

Brad · 04-08-2002, 03:52 AM

the cpu and monitor aren't dell's fault, they don't make them. but the mobo is....

my dell has been through 2 mobo's, 2 screens, 3 keyboards, two trackpad's, one hdd. but I can't complain really, I ring them up, they are there with 5 hours each time with replacement parts.

decodeddiesel · 04-08-2002, 10:48 AM

My vote would have to be with Dell. Not that their servers or notebooks are that bad, in fact they are fairly nice (though not as nice as Toshiba notebooks or HP or IBM servers). Rather it has more to do with the fact that in my job I have to deal with Dell's "support" and sales staff on a daily basis. It's a long story but needless to say I have had some less than favorable experiences with them in the past. Oh but as far as I'm concerned their desktops are overpriced, under powered, and a bitch to work on.

dantheman · 04-08-2002, 08:53 PM

Well, Dell makes some ok boxes. I dislike gateway. They are evil. Just my two cents. I love IBM. I have several of their servers here at the house.

Cappu · 04-13-2002, 07:35 AM

Scumpaq gets my vote for sure! Their comps and notebooks sucks! And I've heard some stories about their "customer support".

Haddy · 04-14-2002, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
the cpu and monitor aren't dell's fault, they don't make them. but the mobo is....

my dell has been through 2 mobo's, 2 screens, 3 keyboards, two trackpad's, one hdd. but I can't complain really, I ring them up, they are there with 5 hours each time with replacement parts.

yea, they wanted 800bucks for the screen so i said fu...hopped on ebay and got one for like 250 bucks and put it in myself (the manual tells u how hehe).....go to boot it up and try to move my mouse....no movment, doh! say ok no big deal...shuter down went got a ps2 mouse, hooked it up, booter up....no mouse movement (doesnt detect either mouse) DOH!.....hopefully dell wont notice the diff screen when i send it in....blasted mobo (has happened twice already)

Aristotle · 04-16-2002, 05:06 PM

Gateway gets my vote...

Toshiba makes excellent laptops... Sony and HP may not make great PCs but they do make other cool toys.

Packard Bell would have had my vote if they were still around. My first PC was a Packard Bell... I've had 7 computers since then... I'm almost done paying off the dang packard bell.

WebMasta33 · 04-16-2002, 06:32 PM

Dell... My family has owned two Dell's. I had to RMA my speakers Altec Lansing ADA885s 5 days before the warrenty was up. Which they gladly replaced for free

Compaq... We have owned 2 laptops from them, and they have been great. Despite the fact that using the 333 laptop is slow as shit now... I still like 'em.

Toshiba, I've repaired about 6 of these. They're easy to work with, roomy cases. The only problems I've ever seen with them are the HD's shit the bit... but that's not their fault.

HP, I just hate their bubble cases.... Comp Tech nightmare....

Acer! Sucks a big fat ______ Had 2 of em. yeck

Gateway's are just overpriced Dells, not tuned for performance... I really don't like them.

I'll definatly agree that Sony/HP make cool gagits, as for their computers, I don't know.

Kevin · 04-17-2002, 12:34 AM

I definitely voted for Packard Bell, but they shouldn't count. They were so bad that they went out of biz in the USA.
-Kev

cristoff · 04-19-2002, 01:30 PM

actually its quite funny... although not able to be upgraded that stupid packard hell... never died... at all once.. never bsod on me or anything with 95...

MaxX · 04-23-2002, 11:10 PM

first i voted gateway cause they droped amd
cant say much bout PB but I have a pentium 90mhz PB that still runs (video bends at the edges though)
dells = overpriced junk
we have two k62 266mhz laptops from compaq that still run but i thought some of the programs that came on it were a bit intrusive and couldent be deleted.
hhm I'm on an HP now! i bet i could cook dinner in it it runs so hot. and on win ME(what it came with) it was'nt stable for more than about 20hr straight

never had or used and ibm

sony's look slick but i think there crap
toshibas hhmm :shrug:

ksw · 05-21-2002, 04:12 PM

My vote would undoubtedly go for Dell, not to say the nmake bad machines. but mine jsut WOULDNT EVER SHOW UP. i ordered it last year, in week 49, i was told it would arrive in week 52, did it? NO AS HELL IT DID. it arrivedd to me, jsut last week, nad that is, for the record, ONLY 20 WEEKS TO LATE!!!!!!!.
no to say it was the correct machine either. i didnt get my GF3 Ti500, i got a lousy GF2 GTS. i didnt get my maxztor 120gb ATA 133 either.. i got a WDC 120gb ATA 100

mad as hell i am.

iceheart · 06-02-2002, 10:17 AM

While I'm not particularly fond of any OEM, my vote goes to Gateway, for the surprisingly shitty ads they have.

View Poll Results: What OEM do you least like?
Gateway	14	19.44%
Packard Bell	23	31.94%
Dell	4	5.56%
Compaq	19	26.39%
Hewlett Packard	4	5.56%
IBM	6	8.33%
Sony	1	1.39%
Toshiba	1	1.39%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

04-06-2002, 05:47 AM	#1
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	Which OEM do you least like? my pick can't be for HP, cause they make nice printers and scanners. As gateway took over several good New Zealand computer companies, then just left the NZ market I have to vote for gateway. Their computers suck too. I couldn't vote dell either, even though they don't do amd stuff. I just love my Dell notebooks __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water Last edited by Brad; 04-06-2002 at 05:54 AM.

04-06-2002, 10:36 AM	#2
gogo Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: AK Posts: 246	I had to go with Compaq, mostly since Packard bell is like gone here and I have atleast managed to get some reusable parts out a few of their machines. __________________ Now, with Retsyn®

04-06-2002, 11:03 AM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Packard Bell was bought by NEC __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

04-06-2002, 12:12 PM	#4
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	No matter what anyone else says Packard Bell WAS and still IS this worst OEM I have yet to work on. Granted Compaq follows as a very close second That's my 2 dents....... err cents __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

04-06-2002, 03:31 PM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	we still see heaps of packard bell stuff here. I didn't know it was bought by nec though __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-07-2002, 07:08 AM	#6
RedTalon19 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: PA Posts: 96	taco hell -err i mean packard hell -err i mean p-a-c-k-a-r-d b-e-l-l... whew knew i could say it __________________ i am myself not anybody else and thats who i am and not who you are so dont be like me because i am myself.

04-07-2002, 09:17 AM	#7
Psychotic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: currently in hiding after a recent escape from the psychiatric ward of a local hospital Posts: 69	Here's another vote for Packard Bell. I used to have one a lonnngggg lonnggggg time ago and boy did their customer support suck some serious hind tit. __________________ I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

04-07-2002, 10:00 AM	#8
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	i hate those shtpaqs with passion __________________ Tearing it up AER* - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

04-07-2002, 11:31 AM	#9
Heavy_Equipment Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Posts: 282	I had to sit for a minute and decide between HP and Compaq. HP got the vote. I seem to be the tech guy here at home lol. I live with friends, and we have 5 systems in the house (3 are mine) and I get the chore of keeping everything running smoothly. My buddy owned a Compaq for the last few years, and it was a pain in the ass. He replaced it with a Hewlet-Packard... and that system is a complete pain in the ass. At least I scored a nice monitor, and some usable parts from the compaq. He won't let me build a system for him, because he's worried about support. Funny, I am the support for the POS oem's he gets anyway. I should let him call HP for every stupid thing.

04-07-2002, 11:53 AM	#10
gogo Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: AK Posts: 246	If this goes on long enough might need to change it to HP/Compaq __________________ Now, with Retsyn®

04-07-2002, 01:02 PM	#11
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	hatem all.....need to add "all of the above" to the poll....well dell is ok, they do have good tec support (too bad u need it all the time) i swear my laptop died like twice a year....mobo blows here cpu die there....screen splits there (wuz just sittin there workin and it just started to crack scared the shit outa me, thought some demond possesed my comp)

04-07-2002, 01:05 PM	#12
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	www.compaqsucks.com

04-08-2002, 03:52 AM	#14
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the cpu and monitor aren't dell's fault, they don't make them. but the mobo is.... my dell has been through 2 mobo's, 2 screens, 3 keyboards, two trackpad's, one hdd. but I can't complain really, I ring them up, they are there with 5 hours each time with replacement parts. __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-08-2002, 10:48 AM	#15
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	My vote would have to be with Dell. Not that their servers or notebooks are that bad, in fact they are fairly nice (though not as nice as Toshiba notebooks or HP or IBM servers). Rather it has more to do with the fact that in my job I have to deal with Dell's "support" and sales staff on a daily basis. It's a long story but needless to say I have had some less than favorable experiences with them in the past. Oh but as far as I'm concerned their desktops are overpriced, under powered, and a bitch to work on. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

04-08-2002, 08:53 PM	#16
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	Well, Dell makes some ok boxes. I dislike gateway. They are evil. Just my two cents. I love IBM. I have several of their servers here at the house.

04-13-2002, 07:35 AM	#17
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Scumpaq gets my vote for sure! Their comps and notebooks sucks! And I've heard some stories about their "customer support". __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-16-2002, 05:06 PM	#19
Aristotle Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 18	Gateway gets my vote... Toshiba makes excellent laptops... Sony and HP may not make great PCs but they do make other cool toys. Packard Bell would have had my vote if they were still around. My first PC was a Packard Bell... I've had 7 computers since then... I'm almost done paying off the dang packard bell.

04-16-2002, 06:32 PM	#20
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Dell... My family has owned two Dell's. I had to RMA my speakers Altec Lansing ADA885s 5 days before the warrenty was up. Which they gladly replaced for free Compaq... We have owned 2 laptops from them, and they have been great. Despite the fact that using the 333 laptop is slow as shit now... I still like 'em. Toshiba, I've repaired about 6 of these. They're easy to work with, roomy cases. The only problems I've ever seen with them are the HD's shit the bit... but that's not their fault. HP, I just hate their bubble cases.... Comp Tech nightmare.... Acer! Sucks a big fat ______ Had 2 of em. yeck Gateway's are just overpriced Dells, not tuned for performance... I really don't like them. I'll definatly agree that Sony/HP make cool gagits, as for their computers, I don't know. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

04-17-2002, 12:34 AM	#21
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	I definitely voted for Packard Bell, but they shouldn't count. They were so bad that they went out of biz in the USA. -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-19-2002, 01:30 PM	#22
cristoff Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Posts: 185	actually its quite funny... although not able to be upgraded that stupid packard hell... never died... at all once.. never bsod on me or anything with 95... __________________ fr33t3chi3

04-23-2002, 11:10 PM	#23
MaxX Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: KY Posts: 2	first i voted gateway cause they droped amd cant say much bout PB but I have a pentium 90mhz PB that still runs (video bends at the edges though) dells = overpriced junk we have two k62 266mhz laptops from compaq that still run but i thought some of the programs that came on it were a bit intrusive and couldent be deleted. hhm I'm on an HP now! i bet i could cook dinner in it it runs so hot. and on win ME(what it came with) it was'nt stable for more than about 20hr straight never had or used and ibm sony's look slick but i think there crap toshibas hhmm :shrug:

05-21-2002, 04:12 PM	#24
ksw Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SWEDEN(cold...) Posts: 195	My vote would undoubtedly go for Dell, not to say the nmake bad machines. but mine jsut WOULDNT EVER SHOW UP. i ordered it last year, in week 49, i was told it would arrive in week 52, did it? NO AS HELL IT DID. it arrivedd to me, jsut last week, nad that is, for the record, ONLY 20 WEEKS TO LATE!!!!!!!. no to say it was the correct machine either. i didnt get my GF3 Ti500, i got a lousy GF2 GTS. i didnt get my maxztor 120gb ATA 133 either.. i got a WDC 120gb ATA 100 mad as hell i am. __________________ www.webraced.com <- addicted as hell /me is!

06-02-2002, 10:17 AM	#25
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	While I'm not particularly fond of any OEM, my vote goes to Gateway, for the surprisingly shitty ads they have. __________________ "If the majority is smarter than you, does that make everyone else a geek, or does it make you retarded?" - pHaestus

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