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sc00by71 08-29-2004 03:48 PM

Best pump for chilled usage @ high gpm ?
 
I have looked and can't find a definitive answer. I have lurked these boards for over two years and just realized I never registered :P I recently switched from straight water to chilled. Approx -27C . My temps were nowhere near what I was expecting. 14c according to MBM at idle. I had an old maze2 block. This is on a xp2400-m currently @10x220/ Abit NF7 btw. I upgraded to the rbx with brass top and now my pump flow is weak. I tried the #1 and #5 nozzles so far, my temps are better at 8c . I had two pumps laying around and tried them separately and in series. Eheim 1048 and mag2. Obviously not enough flow as it seems the rbx shines above 2 gpm. Question is what will pump 2+ gpm and withstand the temps ? The mcp-650 isn't rated that low. I had to epoxy both my pumps because the inlet cracked from the temps. :shrug: I don't want to spend a fortune , but I don't want to drop 75+ on a pump and have it crack either. Any suggestions ?

Shawn

ZaVkE 08-29-2004 03:57 PM

I have a eheim 1060 for sale.
If i'm not mistaken that pump is able to handle the cold & gives enough flow 2250l/h or a bit lower then 10gpm

bigben2k 08-30-2004 01:52 PM

It isn't so much an issue of temp, as it is one of chemical compatibility. Running water at that temp would require you to add something to it, namely anti-freeze or methyl alcohol. You have to check for that chemical compatibility, as well as temp.

lolito_fr 08-30-2004 02:46 PM

Laing D4? (Danger Den D4, Swiftech MCP650...)
Quote:

Temperature range: -10°C to 95°C (brass), 0°C to 60°C (plastic)
Don't know of any better suited pump. :shrug:

sc00by71 08-30-2004 08:07 PM

Yeah it was either running those out of their specified range or getting the c-systems ones which are Aluminum. Now would one d4/mcp650 be 2.0 gpm + or would I need 2 in series. Currently just the RBX on the proc but eventually I will chill the GPU. What about this Hydrothruster I hear about ?

pHaestus 08-30-2004 09:21 PM

Don't get a hydrothruster; noisy as hell and LOTS of heat. I use for testing purposes only. RBX will be a pita to insulate with the "Y" and all...

sc00by71 08-31-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus
Don't get a hydrothruster; noisy as hell and LOTS of heat. I use for testing purposes only. RBX will be a pita to insulate with the "Y" and all...

Knew there had to be a reason no one recommended them. Yeah I didn't research enough before getting the RBX. TDX probably would have been better. Oh well :shrug: Anyone wanna trade ?
I suppose 1 or 2 D4's should cover the GPM. I hope they can take the temp.

redleader 08-31-2004 01:55 PM

Your Delta T is nuts. 35c? Are you sure your probe is alright or that your fluid isn't freezeing up? What are you running? I hope not water + antifreeze at those temps.

sc00by71 09-02-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by redleader
Your Delta T is nuts. 35c? Are you sure your probe is alright or that your fluid isn't freezeing up? What are you running? I hope not water + antifreeze at those temps.

I don't trust the onboard thermistor either. I will put in a probe near the core. The coolant temp is accurate. I was running denatured alky but had my pump inlet crack and spilled all over my floor and mobo. Thankfully the computer was off so no fried components. I have distilled+glycol currently but no freezing. The flow out the return line is a trickle so thats why I suspect low pump output. Once I get the flow prob sorted I will go back to alky. So 1 or 2 D4 pumps to hit 2+ GPM ?

pHaestus 09-02-2004 12:23 PM

If that board gets its temps from a thermistor under core then it'll be WAY off for chilled systems. I saw big temp differences between the diode temp and the CPU backside temp when using the MCWChill


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