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cloaked 10-11-2004 11:32 PM

Excessive water cooling, (power supply, mosfets, vram), idea?
 
I have been playing with the idea of adding lots of water blocks to a secondary loop. This is all theoretical for now, I am planning on a new computer sometime in the next 6 months or so, and have decided on watercooling at least the cpu and video card.
But I was also thinking (fantasizing maybe?) about putting blocks on other parts. Maybe buying some copper tubing to make very simple water blocks for hot parts of the computer. The things I was thinking about were power supply, mosfets, video ram, probably northbridge, maybe hard drives, and even the dimms (I have no idea on the temperatures these reach, and whether better cooling would help in any way.)

The way I see it, this system would have the benefits of being able to get rid of a couple fans (power supply, hard drives, northbridge), and increasing stability if some elements (mosfets, vram) are better cooled.

I thought a possible way to do this would be to have:

___loop with less ____....... ____cpu/video______
|..critical components....\..../............blocks..............|
/\....................................\../..................................../\
|..................................resevoir....... ....................heater
smaller.............................|............. .......................core
pump.............................../\......................................|
|...................................../...\....................main.........|
|________<_________|....|_____>___pump____|


now the obvious problem with this is that the second loop has no way to dissapate heat. I was hoping the components it cooled would not add too much heat to the water, so when it got to the resevoir it would just mix with the cooler water from the main loop.

What problems do you see with this? Is there anything inherantly wrong with cooling, say, the power supply and removing it's fan? Do I need a second heater core for this/what else can be fixed in the loop.

I know this will not provide the best overclock possible, but it my mind the reduction of noise, and of course, overall awsomeness (was gonna say coolness until I realized what a bad pun that would make) is worth it :cool:

edit: another failed case of ascii art formatting- sorry bout the .......s

MaxxxRacer 10-11-2004 11:52 PM

ITs a good idea to put the less important on the smaller pump as they dont need as much cooling or as much flow. that way you could use 3/8 tubing instead of 1/2 inch to make things easier on you. those components also dont need as much flow.

and there is no such think as overkill

jman1310 10-18-2004 03:29 AM

talk to jaydee
he water cooled his entire sys and is now fan free
it looks awesome

jman

STAT 02-12-2005 01:34 PM

I think your double flow idea is really inventive! You need to be careful when water cooling a power supply...the heatsinks very often are 'live', carry high voltage!

MadHacker 02-12-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STAT
I think your double flow idea is really inventive! You need to be careful when water cooling a power supply...the heatsinks very often are 'live', carry high voltage!

I tried to watercool My Powersupply...
got it all hooked up and got a nice pop and some smoke for my troubles... :cry:
havn't bother to try again :shrug:

STAT 02-12-2005 08:14 PM

Man, that would suck!!!

Anyway, with a bay res, you would have multiple inputs & outputs:

CrazyPC UV Blue 5.25 inch Bay Reservoir

Was that what you were thinking of? Also, I found a guide on how to make blocks to cool mosfets:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1104/

When you do it, we need pics!!!


Edit: an easy & ugly way to make your own waterblocks:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips730/

Also, I just had a thought...why water cool your power supply at all if you could buy a fanless one like this:

COOLMAX Black 480W Fanless Switching Power Supply

It wouldn't be real inexpensive, but it would be a lot safer!

MadHacker 02-13-2005 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STAT
Also, I just had a thought...why water cool your power supply at all if you could buy a fanless one like this:

COOLMAX Black 480W Fanless Switching Power Supply

It wouldn't be real inexpensive, but it would be a lot safer!

I guess part of it is bragging rights... :evilaugh:
I can buy a completly premodded case.. but what would be the fun in that? :shrug:

jaydee 02-13-2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jman1310
talk to jaydee
he water cooled his entire sys and is now fan free
it looks awesome

jman

Probably thinking of BladeRunner of http://zfz.com/. I don't think I ever posted any pics of any of my past WC PC's. All my current comps are air cooled at the moment. :cool:

Long Haired Git 02-14-2005 03:01 AM

In the old days, it was the case that for the extra cost of all the hosing and the extra pump and the complexity, you could just buy the next size pump up and plumb it all sequentially.
I mean, for the cost of a eheim 1048 on the CPU side and a 1046 on the NB/GPU side, you could just buy an eheim 1250 and be done with it.

These days, so much has changed (and yet so much is the same)....


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