ok, suppose that I drop all the pelts and added a chiller, would that be a better option? I also did a little research, the Maze 2-2 will hold not one but two 172w pelts... damn... but seriously, I do plan on going overclocking crazy, I was thinking of running the CPU on 1 circuit and the gpu and nb on a seperate circuit with 2x everything (much smaller pump and rad for the nb and gpu/vidram) I know it means alot more parts, but I have a big big big a$$ed case to use, (23inches tall x 18inches deep x 11 inches wide)so I have lots of room to mount 2 rads and 2 pumps, and maybe 2 res. if I don't go inline instead... plus I have been seriously researching fan and rad combinations, but still haven't been able to find reviews or info on alot of stuff. Also, I know I am going to need alot of power, about 2x431w Enermax silent psu's specially modded to be even quieter. I know I may not achieve perfect silence, but with the help of H2O, a dremel, and some hotwiring, and Panflo/PC power and cooling as my friends I can come close...

anyway, back on track, would chillers out perform pelts directly on the chips? You guys put up some pretty good arguements for ambient or similar temps, but I want my systems cold... besides, that extra rad heat will be nice this year in my new place, it has very thin walls