Hard Drives for Water Cooled System

GuyBFF · 09-06-2001, 05:47 PM

OK, I just put water cooled in the topic so this would get read. The other forums just don't have the same number and quality of posters.

In everyone's opinion, what's the best hard drive for RAID between:

Western Digital Caviar 7200/ATA100 WD300BB 30gb or WD400BB 40gb
Maxtor DiomandMax Plus 45 7200/ATA100 30gb or 40gb
Maxtor DiomandMax Plus 60 7200/ATA100 30gb or 40gb

I'm leaning towards the Western Digitals, but not sure .. I hear mixed reports of both WD and Maxtor being awesome and being terrible. The WD's are a couple dollars more but not much, and I'm getting either at cost (promotion from work) so this is why say IBM Deskstars aren't in this list

Thanks for any input!!!

redleader · 09-06-2001, 08:08 PM

No deskstar? The 60GXP is pretty nice and its probably a tad faster then all three of the disks you listed.

If you haven't already check out Storage Review's article

jtroutma · 09-07-2001, 01:31 AM

I have also heard that Fujitsu HDD are in many cases faster, quieter, and COOLER by nature (liquid ball-bearings?)

Just a thought

GuyBFF · 09-07-2001, 01:37 AM

The only drives I can get on my employee purchase are the WD and Maxtor drives unfortunately. I'd by a IBM if I could. I don't really know much about the two, but a tech told me that theres problems with maxtors and RAIDs. Anyone else can back this up? Going to run a striped array.

Mbeach · 09-07-2001, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jtroutma:
[b]I have also heard that Fujitsu HDD are in many cases faster, quieter, and COOLER by nature (liquid ball-bearings?)[b]

I have a Fujitsu 40Gb HDD in my server.. that damn harddrive is hot as hell compared to the 3 GXP IBM's.

just my 2cents...

Dix Dogfight · 09-07-2001, 08:51 AM

This is a warning from a very un-lucky/happy
guy.
DON'T buy IBM DTLA 307030.
I've had 3 of em f&#¤ers die om me. And the company that sold the first one to me just keps em coming untill they heve no more. (or so they tell me).
Tell u one thing, i'll never buy anythong from that place again.

Butcher · 09-07-2001, 11:23 AM

Probably a bad batch and they keep sending you more from the same batch... :P

resago · 09-07-2001, 11:55 AM

problems w/ maxtors and RAID huh?

is that why my registry keeps getting whacked on win2000????

Joe · 09-07-2001, 12:43 PM

Sorry man, if people don't post in the other forums they will always remain slow. Moving this to the proper location.

GuyBFF · 09-09-2001, 11:18 PM

It's funny how this topic get's moved from the watercooling forum and suddenly dies.

This site like most is segregated into groups of people with equal interests in seperate forums. Part of the reason I spend at least an hour a day on this site in the watercooling area is I've begun to feel comfortable with the qualified answers others give. It's to bad we can't ask questions once and a while for the people we consider peers without being thrown out of these areas.

I'm not sure if anyone frequents this forum, or if they really know anything. I was hoping to get decent answers from those I trust.

Maybe you should consider the fact that most of us frequent one or two forums on this site. In my case other than watercooling and the continued story that your coming up with reviews of watercooled parts... theres not much else. I'm sure there are those that couldn't be bothered with watercooling, and again they probably never go into the other areas.

Oh well. You're site none the less is the only site I post on... I guess I'll just stick to watercooling.

P.S. Reply by email or in the watercooling area, as I really don't go here.

mfpmax · 09-10-2001, 03:55 AM

A friend had a Fujitsu and it burned itself to death.

Joe · 09-10-2001, 01:29 PM

I have seen many Fuji's and a few Samsung's die brutal deaths just from running too long.

Seagate and IBM are the most robust of all the drives. Give me an IBM anyday. I have 5 9.1GB IBM SCSI drives running still, and they have bene spinning for 3 years 24/7 now with out as much as a bad sector.

bdunosk · 09-13-2001, 08:26 AM

Barracuda IV. I just got one, and after using SCSI for many years, I notice very little speed loss (if any). Even better, I can't hear the harddrive (with my case off). Even accesses are barely audible, I have to strain to hear them.

Joe · 09-13-2001, 09:53 AM

I just bought a IBM 10GB travelstar 2.5" HD for my 3rd iOpener, and it was DOA out of the box.

first DOA IBM drive I have ever had. Their Customer serivce Dept ****ing RULES. It's already back on its way to IBM and a new one is on its way to me.

09-06-2001, 05:47 PM	#1
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	Hard Drives for Water Cooled System OK, I just put water cooled in the topic so this would get read. The other forums just don't have the same number and quality of posters. In everyone's opinion, what's the best hard drive for RAID between: Western Digital Caviar 7200/ATA100 WD300BB 30gb or WD400BB 40gb Maxtor DiomandMax Plus 45 7200/ATA100 30gb or 40gb Maxtor DiomandMax Plus 60 7200/ATA100 30gb or 40gb I'm leaning towards the Western Digitals, but not sure .. I hear mixed reports of both WD and Maxtor being awesome and being terrible. The WD's are a couple dollars more but not much, and I'm getting either at cost (promotion from work) so this is why say IBM Deskstars aren't in this list Thanks for any input!!! __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

09-07-2001, 01:31 AM	#3
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	I have also heard that Fujitsu HDD are in many cases faster, quieter, and COOLER by nature (liquid ball-bearings?) Just a thought __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

09-07-2001, 01:37 AM	#4
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	The only drives I can get on my employee purchase are the WD and Maxtor drives unfortunately. I'd by a IBM if I could. I don't really know much about the two, but a tech told me that theres problems with maxtors and RAIDs. Anyone else can back this up? Going to run a striped array. __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

09-07-2001, 08:51 AM	#6
Dix Dogfight Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 128	This is a warning from a very un-lucky/happy guy. DON'T buy IBM DTLA 307030. I've had 3 of em f&#¤ers die om me. And the company that sold the first one to me just keps em coming untill they heve no more. (or so they tell me). Tell u one thing, i'll never buy anythong from that place again. __________________ If it ain't broke, fix it. Setup: Dual Duron 1100 \| Voodoo 3 2000 \| Addtronics W8500(WTX) \| Eheim 1250 \| Car radiator \| 2 Innovatech WB \|

09-07-2001, 11:23 AM	#7
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	Probably a bad batch and they keep sending you more from the same batch... :P __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

09-06-2001, 08:08 PM	#2
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	No deskstar? The 60GXP is pretty nice and its probably a tad faster then all three of the disks you listed. If you haven't already check out Storage Review's article

09-07-2001, 11:55 AM	#8
resago Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: state of denial Posts: 488	problems w/ maxtors and RAID huh? is that why my registry keeps getting whacked on win2000???? __________________ 2.4Ghz Compaq Workstation 2.8Ghz Custom 2700+ Custom still running 2000!!!! Help with Coding www.resago.com

09-07-2001, 12:43 PM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Sorry man, if people don't post in the other forums they will always remain slow. Moving this to the proper location. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

09-09-2001, 11:18 PM	#10
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	It's funny how this topic get's moved from the watercooling forum and suddenly dies. This site like most is segregated into groups of people with equal interests in seperate forums. Part of the reason I spend at least an hour a day on this site in the watercooling area is I've begun to feel comfortable with the qualified answers others give. It's to bad we can't ask questions once and a while for the people we consider peers without being thrown out of these areas. I'm not sure if anyone frequents this forum, or if they really know anything. I was hoping to get decent answers from those I trust. Maybe you should consider the fact that most of us frequent one or two forums on this site. In my case other than watercooling and the continued story that your coming up with reviews of watercooled parts... theres not much else. I'm sure there are those that couldn't be bothered with watercooling, and again they probably never go into the other areas. Oh well. You're site none the less is the only site I post on... I guess I'll just stick to watercooling. P.S. Reply by email or in the watercooling area, as I really don't go here. __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

09-10-2001, 03:55 AM	#11
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	A friend had a Fujitsu and it burned itself to death. __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

09-10-2001, 01:29 PM	#12
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I have seen many Fuji's and a few Samsung's die brutal deaths just from running too long. Seagate and IBM are the most robust of all the drives. Give me an IBM anyday. I have 5 9.1GB IBM SCSI drives running still, and they have bene spinning for 3 years 24/7 now with out as much as a bad sector. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

09-13-2001, 08:26 AM	#13
bdunosk Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 93	Barracuda IV. I just got one, and after using SCSI for many years, I notice very little speed loss (if any). Even better, I can't hear the harddrive (with my case off). Even accesses are barely audible, I have to strain to hear them.

09-13-2001, 09:53 AM	#14
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I just bought a IBM 10GB travelstar 2.5" HD for my 3rd iOpener, and it was DOA out of the box. first DOA IBM drive I have ever had. Their Customer serivce Dept **ing RULES. It's already back on its way to IBM and a new one is on its way to me. __________________ Joe** - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

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