About to order heater core

brenthamm · 02-10-2002, 12:01 PM

I am going to order this heater core (Unless anyone gives me a reason why it is not good)

http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=30537509

Does anyone know if these are copper? THis is the rad from a 1975-1977 Chevrolet Caprice Classic. With out air. Price is 19.95.

Also, the dimensions are:
Length: 6 1/8''
Width: 2''
Height: 9 1/2''
Hose Size: I 3/4'' O 5/8''
Does the height mean the total or just the finned part.

Many thanks guys!

PS this in going in my InWin q500. Anyone used these rads in that case? OR want to recommend a different one?

jaydee · 02-10-2002, 12:48 PM

Those "should be" overall deminsions from very top to very bottom. If it is or not....

brenthamm · 02-10-2002, 12:54 PM

That is strange, as i copied and pasted that info from the Napa website.

jaydee · 02-10-2002, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brenthamm
That is strange, as i copied and pasted that info from the Napa website.

Well 5/8" is 1/8" smaller than 3/4" so it has to be backwards.

lead · 02-10-2002, 01:15 PM

I believe they are talking about INLET and Outlet on the core not ID and OD--the picture of it, kinda shows it also. My 2 cents and that looks like a nice price.

jaydee · 02-10-2002, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lead
I believe they are talking about INLET and Outlet on the core not ID and OD--the picture of it, kinda shows it also. My 2 cents and that looks like a nice price.

You are correct!!! I didn't notice that.

BrianW · 02-10-2002, 01:34 PM

After looking far and wide for heatercores, I found that almost all places list their sizes for the radiator fins only. The tanks are not inclused in the size usually.

Brad · 02-10-2002, 07:03 PM

just to give you an idea, you can normally add 1-2" for the tanks.

And yes, almost all radiator tube sizes will be measure in OD, and quite often the outlet and inlet are differant sizes

Jim · 02-10-2002, 07:46 PM

brenthamm-

The chevy heater core you are looking at is all copper and brass. Here is a link to it:Chevy heater core.

It is about 11" high over all BTW. It has a 5/8" and a 3/4" inlet.

I am using the Ford Econoline heater core ($23.00) at Auto Zone. It has both inlets at 5/8" so you can insert a 1/2" barb or solder 1/2" copper fittings right on to it, as I am (will).
Size is almost exactly the same as the Chevy 77 heater core and all brass and copper. I haven't finished my water cooling set up because I have had too much work to do lately. Sucks!

Ford:

Jim

Pyrotechnic · 02-10-2002, 09:58 PM

i use a heater core out of a 1991 Ford Escort. Look it up at www.heatercore4u.com It's kinda small but it does the job. Ford cores are usually better because they inlet and outlet are usually identicle. Chevy's usually have a 3/4 and 5/8 tube while Fords have (2) 5/8 tubes. BTW i got the core at Autozone for $29.99

Pyrotechnic · 02-10-2002, 10:40 PM

check out this core http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-192.htm You could fit (4) 120mm fans on that thing, one of the biggest cores i have seen. BTW it's out of a 1979-58 Ford C, CT, BEF, FA5, 001 (whatever that is, or at least thats what it said on the site)

Brad · 02-11-2002, 02:03 AM

http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-144.htm

that would be more useful I think, a bit thicker, but it'd fit 2x 172mm fans.

that ford one couldn't go into too many cases, wheras with that chevy one there would be a couple of ways to mount it

pHaestus · 02-11-2002, 09:00 AM

I have that Caprice heatercore. It performs outstandingly well with my setup, but it is overkill big time for straight water cooling. On the plus side, I can run fans undervolted and still get great temps. On the minus it is a bit more challenging to fit in a case.

DigitalChaos · 02-11-2002, 03:49 PM

whats the smallest heatercore you guys know of that is NOT aluminum. im lookin for a 120mm fan size core...

Jim · 02-11-2002, 05:25 PM

I think the Chevette heater core is the smallest.

Link to Chevette heater core.

It is 6 X 6 1/8, not sure about the copper/brass element though.

Then there is the Pontiac Fiero heater core. I wanted one of these but they were $56.00!

Link to:Fiero heater core.

Jim

brenthamm · 02-11-2002, 06:40 PM

Here is the Chevette for 21.99
http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=30538553

BrianW · 02-12-2002, 01:37 AM

Just do not forget to add 1.75"-2.25" for the top and bottom tanks. I went to the autostore and measured the outer dimensions on 5 diff heater cores. They were all larger in the height direction by 1.75"-2.25" .

Brad · 02-12-2002, 03:49 AM

the black ice is the smallest heatercore I know of that will fit a 120mm fan, and isn't Al.

Pyrotechnic · 02-12-2002, 09:09 PM

does the black paint on the black ice hurt performance ?

Brad · 02-13-2002, 04:50 AM

is it paint, or some other process to colour it? I honestly don't know. It seems to perform well though, check Joe's radiator roundup

DigitalChaos · 02-13-2002, 04:07 PM

its just black paint

Pyrotechnic · 02-13-2002, 04:18 PM

i think a bare copper one might be better, like the d-tek heater core, they dont pain the fins, just that tanks and sides.

DigitalChaos · 02-13-2002, 08:03 PM

i went to autozone and they didnt have ANY 6x6 (or close to) heater cores... not even the chevette. guess i will buy online.
i did look through their book and found a smaller rad. and this is all the info about it:

39 8205
GM
9402914
5 1/2" x 5 1/4" x 2"

if someone could find that for me it would be AWSOME.... ive looked everywhere and will continue to do so.

UnaClocker · 02-13-2002, 08:32 PM

Lookup the Geo Tracker's heatercore.. It's just a hair larger than the blackice extreme. Unfortunately, it costs about the same.

Jim · 02-13-2002, 09:24 PM

Here is a link to Fedco, the heater core vendor.
Anyway let your mouse do the walking!

Go here for heater cores.

Jim

02-10-2002, 12:01 PM	#1
brenthamm Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 14	About to order heater core I am going to order this heater core (Unless anyone gives me a reason why it is not good) http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=30537509 Does anyone know if these are copper? THis is the rad from a 1975-1977 Chevrolet Caprice Classic. With out air. Price is 19.95. Also, the dimensions are: Length: 6 1/8'' Width: 2'' Height: 9 1/2'' Hose Size: I 3/4'' O 5/8'' Does the height mean the total or just the finned part. Many thanks guys! PS this in going in my InWin q500. Anyone used these rads in that case? OR want to recommend a different one?

02-10-2002, 12:48 PM	#2
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Re: About to order heater core Those "should be" overall deminsions from very top to very bottom. If it is or not.... Last edited by jaydee116; 02-10-2002 at 01:46 PM.

02-10-2002, 12:54 PM	#3
brenthamm Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 14	Really? That is strange, as i copied and pasted that info from the Napa website.

02-10-2002, 07:03 PM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	just to give you an idea, you can normally add 1-2" for the tanks. And yes, almost all radiator tube sizes will be measure in OD, and quite often the outlet and inlet are differant sizes __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-11-2002, 02:03 AM	#12
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-144.htm that would be more useful I think, a bit thicker, but it'd fit 2x 172mm fans. that ford one couldn't go into too many cases, wheras with that chevy one there would be a couple of ways to mount it __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-10-2002, 01:15 PM	#5
lead Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 13	I believe they are talking about INLET and Outlet on the core not ID and OD--the picture of it, kinda shows it also. My 2 cents and that looks like a nice price.

02-10-2002, 01:34 PM	#7
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	After looking far and wide for heatercores, I found that almost all places list their sizes for the radiator fins only. The tanks are not inclused in the size usually.

02-10-2002, 07:46 PM	#9
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	brenthamm- The chevy heater core you are looking at is all copper and brass. Here is a link to it:Chevy heater core. It is about 11" high over all BTW. It has a 5/8" and a 3/4" inlet. I am using the Ford Econoline heater core ($23.00) at Auto Zone. It has both inlets at 5/8" so you can insert a 1/2" barb or solder 1/2" copper fittings right on to it, as I am (will). Size is almost exactly the same as the Chevy 77 heater core and all brass and copper. I haven't finished my water cooling set up because I have had too much work to do lately. Sucks! Ford: Jim

02-10-2002, 09:58 PM	#10
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	i use a heater core out of a 1991 Ford Escort. Look it up at www.heatercore4u.com It's kinda small but it does the job. Ford cores are usually better because they inlet and outlet are usually identicle. Chevy's usually have a 3/4 and 5/8 tube while Fords have (2) 5/8 tubes. BTW i got the core at Autozone for $29.99

02-10-2002, 10:40 PM	#11
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	check out this core http://www.heatercore4u.com/2-192.htm You could fit (4) 120mm fans on that thing, one of the biggest cores i have seen. BTW it's out of a 1979-58 Ford C, CT, BEF, FA5, 001 (whatever that is, or at least thats what it said on the site)

02-11-2002, 09:00 AM	#13
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I have that Caprice heatercore. It performs outstandingly well with my setup, but it is overkill big time for straight water cooling. On the plus side, I can run fans undervolted and still get great temps. On the minus it is a bit more challenging to fit in a case.

02-11-2002, 03:49 PM	#14
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	whats the smallest heatercore you guys know of that is NOT aluminum. im lookin for a 120mm fan size core...

02-11-2002, 05:25 PM	#15
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	I think the Chevette heater core is the smallest. Link to Chevette heater core. It is 6 X 6 1/8, not sure about the copper/brass element though. Then there is the Pontiac Fiero heater core. I wanted one of these but they were $56.00! Link to:Fiero heater core. Jim

02-11-2002, 06:40 PM	#16
brenthamm Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 14	heatercores Here is the Chevette for 21.99 http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=30538553

02-12-2002, 01:37 AM	#17
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Just do not forget to add 1.75"-2.25" for the top and bottom tanks. I went to the autostore and measured the outer dimensions on 5 diff heater cores. They were all larger in the height direction by 1.75"-2.25" .

02-12-2002, 03:49 AM	#18
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the black ice is the smallest heatercore I know of that will fit a 120mm fan, and isn't Al. __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-12-2002, 09:09 PM	#19
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	does the black paint on the black ice hurt performance ?

02-13-2002, 04:50 AM	#20
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	is it paint, or some other process to colour it? I honestly don't know. It seems to perform well though, check Joe's radiator roundup __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-13-2002, 04:07 PM	#21
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	its just black paint

02-13-2002, 04:18 PM	#22
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	i think a bare copper one might be better, like the d-tek heater core, they dont pain the fins, just that tanks and sides.

02-13-2002, 08:03 PM	#23
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i went to autozone and they didnt have ANY 6x6 (or close to) heater cores... not even the chevette. guess i will buy online. i did look through their book and found a smaller rad. and this is all the info about it: 39 8205 GM 9402914 5 1/2" x 5 1/4" x 2" if someone could find that for me it would be AWSOME.... ive looked everywhere and will continue to do so.

02-13-2002, 08:32 PM	#24
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	Lookup the Geo Tracker's heatercore.. It's just a hair larger than the blackice extreme. Unfortunately, it costs about the same. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

02-13-2002, 09:24 PM	#25
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Here is a link to Fedco, the heater core vendor. Anyway let your mouse do the walking! Go here for heater cores. Jim

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