mouting springs on maze3

FRAGN'STIEN · 05-15-2002, 12:47 AM

Do you guys completly compress your springs on your block? Im getting 40c at idle. I would try to compress more but I'm afraid of cracking the core.

Brad · 05-15-2002, 02:47 AM

if you keep the block level, and keep equal pressure on each spring it's virtually impossible to damage the core, the only thing the core can do then is go straight through the back of the board, but then I've never seen that happen

DigitalChaos · 05-15-2002, 07:27 AM

i compress mine all the way

UpAllNight · 05-15-2002, 09:11 AM

i have mine compressed all the way to

but i was VERY careful making sure my block was even measurements on all 4 corners

DigitalChaos · 05-15-2002, 09:56 AM

i wasnt carefull =) i just used a shim

UpAllNight · 05-15-2002, 10:53 AM

i have never used a shim....i think i saw a thread talking about GIRLS use shims...

DigitalChaos · 05-15-2002, 11:10 AM

lol... shims are good.. you can be sloppy and do stuff when you can barely see that you are so tired and still not break stuff

webmedic · 05-15-2002, 11:47 AM

I have to agree. I don't care what others say. I have had many cpu's and I'm always testing my watercooling stuff. My blocks are on and off all the time. My blocks on, then off, then the maze go's on to check between the two. Back and forth like this all the time. I've cracked more than enough cpu's to know that if I'm a sissy I'm also not a sissy out 150$ bucks for my athlon xp. If it happens just once or twice it adds up. The shim is only 10-15$ or so and saves me much in the end.

Brad · 05-16-2002, 02:13 AM

shims are for girls

morphling1 · 05-16-2002, 04:04 AM

I don't use springs at all, just steel bolts and winged nuts, and of course shim, I also take a lot of block on and off, and I don't wanna waste time being too careful

jag_e_fattig · 05-16-2002, 04:57 AM

i've only taken my alpha pal8045 off once, so i don't feel that a shim is necessary for me..

webmedic · 05-16-2002, 07:19 AM

No you are right the only reason I use the shims is because I do allot of changing around. And Brad can burn up his own cpu's, as for me the first 300-450$ that gets thrown out the door is enough. Fortunately this has not happened to me. I rma'd them but I did crush a few and decided not to take my chances.

Jim · 05-17-2002, 03:53 PM

What kind of shims are you guys using and where do I buy?
Jim

morphling1 · 05-17-2002, 05:10 PM

I made it myself from 0,6 or 0,7 mm Cu sheet (I'm not really sure), little dremel action,

Haddy · 05-17-2002, 08:00 PM

here we go....another shim haiting thread....fun.....

Triton · 05-17-2002, 08:19 PM

shimmy shimmy coco puff!

Shimless and I'm proud.

Jim · 05-17-2002, 09:12 PM

Jim needs to know where he can buy a shim?

Really, heck I never even saw one.
Jim

Cyco-Dude · 05-17-2002, 09:49 PM

link to Tweakmonster aluminum shims. resellers listed @ bottom of page.

FRAGN'STIEN · 05-17-2002, 09:59 PM

I've heard horror stories about "copper shims" but I have one I used on all my heatsinks without a problem. Maybe I should put it on with my block and go to town on my springs

Haddy · 05-17-2002, 10:21 PM

use the non conductive ones.....works wonders

Ebonyks · 05-18-2002, 12:03 AM

I just plan to use the old mounting equiptment from my swiftech MC462a

FRAGN'STIEN · 05-18-2002, 12:42 AM

Well I put on my shim and compressed the springs all the way down and my temps are still high

39c at idle. If i turn my fans to 12v it makes no difference. I'm not totally unhappy with my temps but with my humble overclock it should be cooler. It's still cooler than any heatsink I've ever used. I think I need a bigger pump and rad, oh and think the smell of the water wetter is giving me brain damage

WebMasta33 · 05-18-2002, 01:00 AM

<-- uses a conductive shim... loves it...

*grabs his pleated skirt*

*does a curtsy*

*licks her lolly pop*

There you happy?! Shims are for girls....

Ebonyks · 05-18-2002, 01:04 AM

Hell, i used to use a conductive shim, but IMO the risk is too great. Beides, nylon sux0rz

Jim · 05-18-2002, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FRAGN'STIEN
Well I put on my shim and compressed the springs all the way down and my temps are still high 39c at idle. If i turn my fans to 12v it makes no difference. I'm not totally unhappy with my temps but with my humble overclock it should be cooler. It's still cooler than any heatsink I've ever used. I think I need a bigger pump and rad, oh and think the smell of the water wetter is giving me brain damage

Is you watercooling stuff listed somewhere?
Jim

05-15-2002, 12:47 AM	#1
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	mouting springs on maze3 Do you guys completly compress your springs on your block? Im getting 40c at idle. I would try to compress more but I'm afraid of cracking the core. __________________ This space for rent

05-15-2002, 02:47 AM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	if you keep the block level, and keep equal pressure on each spring it's virtually impossible to damage the core, the only thing the core can do then is go straight through the back of the board, but then I've never seen that happen __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-15-2002, 09:11 AM	#4
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	i have mine compressed all the way to but i was VERY careful making sure my block was even measurements on all 4 corners __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-15-2002, 10:53 AM	#6
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	i have never used a shim....i think i saw a thread talking about GIRLS use shims... __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-15-2002, 11:47 AM	#8
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	I have to agree. I don't care what others say. I have had many cpu's and I'm always testing my watercooling stuff. My blocks are on and off all the time. My blocks on, then off, then the maze go's on to check between the two. Back and forth like this all the time. I've cracked more than enough cpu's to know that if I'm a sissy I'm also not a sissy out 150$ bucks for my athlon xp. If it happens just once or twice it adds up. The shim is only 10-15$ or so and saves me much in the end. __________________ www.water-cool.com

05-15-2002, 07:27 AM	#3
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i compress mine all the way

05-15-2002, 09:56 AM	#5
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i wasnt carefull =) i just used a shim

05-15-2002, 11:10 AM	#7
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	lol... shims are good.. you can be sloppy and do stuff when you can barely see that you are so tired and still not break stuff

05-16-2002, 02:13 AM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	shims are for girls __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-16-2002, 04:04 AM	#10
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	I don't use springs at all, just steel bolts and winged nuts, and of course shim, I also take a lot of block on and off, and I don't wanna waste time being too careful

05-16-2002, 04:57 AM	#11
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	i've only taken my alpha pal8045 off once, so i don't feel that a shim is necessary for me.. __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-16-2002, 07:19 AM	#12
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	No you are right the only reason I use the shims is because I do allot of changing around. And Brad can burn up his own cpu's, as for me the first 300-450$ that gets thrown out the door is enough. Fortunately this has not happened to me. I rma'd them but I did crush a few and decided not to take my chances. __________________ www.water-cool.com

05-17-2002, 03:53 PM	#13
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	What kind of shims are you guys using and where do I buy? Jim

05-17-2002, 05:10 PM	#14
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	I made it myself from 0,6 or 0,7 mm Cu sheet (I'm not really sure), little dremel action,

05-17-2002, 08:00 PM	#15
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	here we go....another shim haiting thread....fun.....

05-17-2002, 08:19 PM	#16
Triton Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 78	shimmy shimmy coco puff! Shimless and I'm proud. __________________ XP1800+ Gigabyte GA-7DX 512mb Crucial 2100 watercooled with Danger Den, Eheim, 1/2" silicone tubing, and Black Ice Xtreme radiator. Liteon 24x10x40x CDRW WD80gb +30gb hard drives Liteon FS020 case and much more at http://www.jakeandkelly.com/customcomputer/index.htm

05-17-2002, 09:12 PM	#17
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Jim needs to know where he can buy a shim? Really, heck I never even saw one. Jim

05-17-2002, 09:49 PM	#18
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	link to Tweakmonster aluminum shims. resellers listed @ bottom of page.

05-17-2002, 09:59 PM	#19
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	I've heard horror stories about "copper shims" but I have one I used on all my heatsinks without a problem. Maybe I should put it on with my block and go to town on my springs __________________ This space for rent

05-17-2002, 10:21 PM	#20
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	use the non conductive ones.....works wonders

05-18-2002, 12:03 AM	#21
Ebonyks Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5	I just plan to use the old mounting equiptment from my swiftech MC462a

05-18-2002, 12:42 AM	#22
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	Well I put on my shim and compressed the springs all the way down and my temps are still high 39c at idle. If i turn my fans to 12v it makes no difference. I'm not totally unhappy with my temps but with my humble overclock it should be cooler. It's still cooler than any heatsink I've ever used. I think I need a bigger pump and rad, oh and think the smell of the water wetter is giving me brain damage __________________ This space for rent

05-18-2002, 01:00 AM	#23
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	<-- uses a conductive shim... loves it... grabs his pleated skirt does a curtsy licks her lolly pop There you happy?! Shims are for girls.... __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

05-18-2002, 01:04 AM	#24
Ebonyks Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5	Hell, i used to use a conductive shim, but IMO the risk is too great. Beides, nylon sux0rz

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