R-Type 2

jaydee · 03-06-2005, 12:38 PM

I had some free time this weekend with my mill. The mill is rough shape. I tried making a new mini pin block but the effort was futile. So instead I dug out the Lumpy Channel base (the top got destroyed by USPS) and decided to make the R-Type 2 out of it. This time I designed a new top with a Center inlet with a jet.

This is a pic of the original base:

Here is a pic of the modified base:

As you can see I milled in the pins and removed a row of pins on both sides of the block. I felt those were mothing more than unnessary restrictions.

Here is a pic of the new all copper top peice:

And here is a pic with top in place:

Next step is a trip to the hardware store for some copper connectors to solder on and some more screws.

killernoodle · 03-06-2005, 02:42 PM

Lookin pretty sweet from here.

DryFire · 03-06-2005, 02:50 PM

wonder how it performs. looks good to me too.

Susquehannock · 03-06-2005, 03:59 PM

Cool, the millwork reminds me of the old days.

jaydee · 03-06-2005, 10:26 PM

Barbs soldered on and screws in. Block is complete. Now to find something to install it on...

JFettig · 03-06-2005, 10:42 PM

Lookin good all untill you gooped those pipe fittings on

I wonder if what gave you that nice performance was the base thickness, kinda hard to compare.

Jon

jaydee · 03-06-2005, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFettig

Lookin good all untill you gooped those pipe fittings on

I wonder if what gave you that nice performance was the base thickness, kinda hard to compare.

Jon

LOL, yeah still working on the soldering technique.

Indeed on the base thickness. If I get back to the mill I want to make a second one with the previous R-Type specs with the same top as this one. I belive the center inlet with the nozzel should make up for base place thickness and maybe more. pH still has my original R-Type unless he got rid of it. Once he gets his revised bench up I got about 10lbs of copper to send his way.

superart · 03-06-2005, 11:19 PM

hehe, looks like that watercooling monkey on your back is calling again.

Have you thought of making the jet another piece, so as to be able to switch it out and custmize it better.

jaydee · 03-06-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superart

hehe, looks like that watercooling monkey on your back is calling again.

Have you thought of making the jet another piece, so as to be able to switch it out and custmize it better.

Yeah, boared off my ass more than anything though. Not much else better to do.

Yes it crossed my mind and done it on the Project X block. The top is just 1/8" copper plate though. Be just as easy to make new tops with different jet designs.

Setting up my test bench now. Hope the mobo still works. Got a Die Sim in the works but long way off on that.

Susquehannock · 03-07-2005, 01:51 AM

Looks good. Nice to see some work like this since I'm thinking about making my
own waterblock too.

Agree about the pipe fittings though. Would have been nice to see a round "O ring" type
channel for them to sit in. A small fly cutter might work well for that since you have a mill.
If you plan it right you wouldn't see any solder at all.

jaydee · 03-07-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susquehannock

Looks good. Nice to see some work like this since I'm thinking about making my
own waterblock too.

Agree about the pipe fittings though. Would have been nice to see a round "O ring" type
channel for them to sit in. A small fly cutter might work well for that since you have a mill.
If you plan it right you wouldn't see any solder at all.

I honestly careless about looks. I have a couple ways to make a soldeless looking joint but I just choose not to spend the time doing it. Perormance over looks anyday. These are all Prototype blocks also. I don't even water cool my main computers.

|kbn| · 03-12-2005, 08:22 PM

How are the pipes soldered? just flat against the top, or do they insert into the holes? It looks like they are just flat against it...

I wouldnt imagine that being very strong (but im very tempted to do it on my blocks as it would save a LOT of effort

What solder do you use? standard 60/40 or lead-free solder? I could use either 60/40 or 95 Sn 4 Ag 0.5 Cu solder.. dunno which is stronger...?

jaydee · 03-12-2005, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |kbn|

How are the pipes soldered? just flat against the top, or do they insert into the holes? It looks like they are just flat against it...

I wouldnt imagine that being very strong (but im very tempted to do it on my blocks as it would save a LOT of effort

What solder do you use? standard 60/40 or lead-free solder? I could use either 60/40 or 95 Sn 4 Ag 0.5 Cu solder.. dunno which is stronger...?

Soldered just flat to the top. The solderless looking joint I mention before I would mill a grove around each hole and solder in it.

It is PLENTY strong the way it is. In fact when pH sent back my blocks they got messed up by USPS. One of the copper barbs was cruched yet it still was solder in place. It will hold 50lbs easy.

I use lead free copper/tin mix solder.

Aviator747 · 03-19-2005, 05:54 PM

Any stats for r-type 2 yet? Especially compared to r-type?

jaydee · 03-19-2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator747

Any stats for r-type 2 yet? Especially compared to r-type?

Nothing solid. pH has the original R-Type and is not testing blocks for a while from what I gather so I am not going to send him the block for now. Here is a graph of my own half assed testing against some of my other blocks and the Maze 4. Building a better test bench and will replicate the original R-Type and test them against each other with the better test bench.

jaydee · 05-01-2005, 07:31 PM

My test bench has improved considerably since the last post. Anyway today I decided the see how much the center inlet with the jet helped the design. Was a little disapointed. It was interesting to learn the block is actually less restrictive WITH the jet and 2 outlets as opposed to an inlet on one side and an outlet on the other.

Edit for clarification: The No Jet reading has the inlet on one side (not in the middle) and the outlet on the other (not in the middle). The Jet reading has a jet in the middle (center inlet) and the outlets are on both sides.

Etacovda · 05-01-2005, 07:48 PM

two tops? or just blocked the jet inlet?

jaydee · 05-01-2005, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etacovda

two tops? or just blocked the jet inlet?

Blocked the jet inlet.

jaydee · 05-01-2005, 10:11 PM

And with the Maze 4 results added in....

03-06-2005, 12:38 PM	#1
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	R-Type 2 I had some free time this weekend with my mill. The mill is rough shape. I tried making a new mini pin block but the effort was futile. So instead I dug out the Lumpy Channel base (the top got destroyed by USPS) and decided to make the R-Type 2 out of it. This time I designed a new top with a Center inlet with a jet. This is a pic of the original base: Here is a pic of the modified base: As you can see I milled in the pins and removed a row of pins on both sides of the block. I felt those were mothing more than unnessary restrictions. Here is a pic of the new all copper top peice: And here is a pic with top in place: Next step is a trip to the hardware store for some copper connectors to solder on and some more screws.

03-06-2005, 02:42 PM	#2
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	Lookin pretty sweet from here. __________________ I have a nice computer.

03-06-2005, 03:59 PM	#4
Susquehannock Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: workbench Posts: 46	Cool, the millwork reminds me of the old days. __________________ Master Machinist /Tool & Die (Ret.) ~ Metalsmith Last edited by Susquehannock; 03-06-2005 at 04:06 PM.

03-06-2005, 11:19 PM	#8
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	hehe, looks like that watercooling monkey on your back is calling again. Have you thought of making the jet another piece, so as to be able to switch it out and custmize it better. __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

03-12-2005, 08:22 PM	#12
\|kbn\| Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: W. Sussex, UK Posts: 329	How are the pipes soldered? just flat against the top, or do they insert into the holes? It looks like they are just flat against it... I wouldnt imagine that being very strong (but im very tempted to do it on my blocks as it would save a LOT of effort What solder do you use? standard 60/40 or lead-free solder? I could use either 60/40 or 95 Sn 4 Ag 0.5 Cu solder.. dunno which is stronger...? __________________ Waterblocks

03-06-2005, 02:50 PM	#3
DryFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 148	wonder how it performs. looks good to me too.

03-06-2005, 10:26 PM	#5
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Barbs soldered on and screws in. Block is complete. Now to find something to install it on...

03-06-2005, 10:42 PM	#6
JFettig Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Willmar MN/Fargo ND Posts: 504	Lookin good all untill you gooped those pipe fittings on I wonder if what gave you that nice performance was the base thickness, kinda hard to compare. Jon

03-07-2005, 01:51 AM	#10
Susquehannock Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: workbench Posts: 46	Looks good. Nice to see some work like this since I'm thinking about making my own waterblock too. Agree about the pipe fittings though. Would have been nice to see a round "O ring" type channel for them to sit in. A small fly cutter might work well for that since you have a mill. If you plan it right you wouldn't see any solder at all.

03-19-2005, 05:54 PM	#14
Aviator747 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cornwall,Ontario,Canada Posts: 13	Any stats for r-type 2 yet? Especially compared to r-type?

05-01-2005, 07:48 PM	#17
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	two tops? or just blocked the jet inlet? __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights.

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