anyone here use or..

scythe · 02-04-2002, 08:09 PM

so does anyone use or have used the newer leufken or older water blocks? and do you like them?

Brad · 02-04-2002, 08:42 PM

most of their stuff isn't too bad, but I wouldn't recommend that direct die block of theirs

UnaClocker · 02-04-2002, 09:09 PM

I've never been too impressed with their stuff. The blocks were always just drilled passages, which works, but can be beat easily. The radiators were always just oil coolers, which suck in general. The pumps were usually Rio's or offshoots of Rio's, so your going to have reliability issues. And that direct die deranged block he's pushing now.. Don't even get me started on that one. I think you'd be better off just following the herd and buying from DangerDen..

Fixittt · 02-04-2002, 09:30 PM

Now Unaclocker, U have to be fair, at least Tom is willing to try new stuff, I am not saying direct die is new, but I dont know of anyone else who is at least trying to bring it into the market. My hats off to tom for that, that is always what I have tried to do. But I wouldnt use one.

ohh and just to raise the hair on your arms unclocker....... I have an acrylic topped block, and a RIO pump

UnaClocker · 02-04-2002, 10:03 PM

flame on, brother..

hehe (as in your lid, when the rio dies and the pelt brings the block up to a high enough temp for the plastic to spontaneously combust)..

hehe..

scythe · 02-04-2002, 10:18 PM

hmmm , i was planning on buy the rez w/pump and a waterblock w/retention clip but if you guys say its not worth it then im reconsidering.

maze2's are really expensive

but if its whats good i will get one

Brad · 02-05-2002, 01:40 AM

they aren't much more expensive than anything else, and at least you know they will perform well, and won't leak

scythe · 02-05-2002, 01:59 PM

20$ more then the leufken aluminum block

Brad · 02-05-2002, 03:40 PM

I was talking about the relative cost of a Tbird and mobo...

Butcher · 02-05-2002, 07:32 PM

No matter which block you opt for get a 4 bolt retention, anything which doesn't use one is junk IMO

scythe · 02-05-2002, 07:37 PM

i see the light now ... im goin to go pick up a radiator soon at napa

Brad · 02-05-2002, 08:36 PM

butch, I disagree, the maze1c holddown is nice

Lonely Raven · 02-05-2002, 11:23 PM

I tested stuff for Leufken about a year and a half ago. My
opinion on his stuff is this.

It's inexpensive, does an acceptable job of cooling, and is as
reliable as the quality of the assembly.

I've got one of his original Rio pump based resovoirs and it's
been running for almost two years...honestly though, I think
I'm just very lucky...those little pumps never seemed too
powerfull...but mine keeps pumping along (although VERY
slowly).

IMHO, it's a great setup, if you just want to do as good or
slightly better then HIGH END AIR cooling, but without the
buzz of the fans and not invest in SERIOUS water cooling.
Which is pretty much what mine is doing now...

02-04-2002, 08:09 PM	#1
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	anyone here use or.. so does anyone use or have used the newer leufken or older water blocks? and do you like them?

02-04-2002, 08:42 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	most of their stuff isn't too bad, but I wouldn't recommend that direct die block of theirs __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-04-2002, 09:09 PM	#3
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	I've never been too impressed with their stuff. The blocks were always just drilled passages, which works, but can be beat easily. The radiators were always just oil coolers, which suck in general. The pumps were usually Rio's or offshoots of Rio's, so your going to have reliability issues. And that direct die deranged block he's pushing now.. Don't even get me started on that one. I think you'd be better off just following the herd and buying from DangerDen.. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

02-04-2002, 09:30 PM	#4
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Now Unaclocker, U have to be fair, at least Tom is willing to try new stuff, I am not saying direct die is new, but I dont know of anyone else who is at least trying to bring it into the market. My hats off to tom for that, that is always what I have tried to do. But I wouldnt use one. ohh and just to raise the hair on your arms unclocker....... I have an acrylic topped block, and a RIO pump __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

02-04-2002, 10:03 PM	#5
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	flame on, brother.. hehe (as in your lid, when the rio dies and the pelt brings the block up to a high enough temp for the plastic to spontaneously combust).. hehe.. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

02-04-2002, 10:18 PM	#6
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	hmmm , i was planning on buy the rez w/pump and a waterblock w/retention clip but if you guys say its not worth it then im reconsidering. maze2's are really expensive but if its whats good i will get one __________________ ...[-_-]... +-{ i }-+ ....[][]..... Last edited by scythe; 02-04-2002 at 10:25 PM.

02-05-2002, 01:40 AM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	they aren't much more expensive than anything else, and at least you know they will perform well, and won't leak __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-05-2002, 01:59 PM	#8
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	20$ more then the leufken aluminum block

02-05-2002, 03:40 PM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I was talking about the relative cost of a Tbird and mobo... __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-05-2002, 07:32 PM	#10
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	No matter which block you opt for get a 4 bolt retention, anything which doesn't use one is junk IMO __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

02-05-2002, 07:37 PM	#11
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	i see the light now ... im goin to go pick up a radiator soon at napa __________________ ...[-_-]... +-{ i }-+ ....[][].....

02-05-2002, 08:36 PM	#12
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	butch, I disagree, the maze1c holddown is nice __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-05-2002, 11:23 PM	#13
Lonely Raven Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 69	I tested stuff for Leufken about a year and a half ago. My opinion on his stuff is this. It's inexpensive, does an acceptable job of cooling, and is as reliable as the quality of the assembly. I've got one of his original Rio pump based resovoirs and it's been running for almost two years...honestly though, I think I'm just very lucky...those little pumps never seemed too powerfull...but mine keeps pumping along (although VERY slowly). IMHO, it's a great setup, if you just want to do as good or slightly better then HIGH END AIR cooling, but without the buzz of the fans and not invest in SERIOUS water cooling. Which is pretty much what mine is doing now... __________________ The Lonely Raven Jack of All Trades, Master of None IT Samurai

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