Air Trap Pics...

Haddy · 04-03-2002, 11:06 PM

well first attempt at my own air trap...be kinda first time ive done this...already have plans for the real one as this is just a prototype.....
http://www.haddy.d2g.com/mods.htm

jbe · 04-03-2002, 11:13 PM

all i got was a big read X

Brad · 04-03-2002, 11:36 PM

they just red X for me too

pHaestus · 04-04-2002, 01:11 AM

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Brad · 04-04-2002, 01:30 AM

now that I can see it, really cool work

Cyco-Dude · 04-04-2002, 01:35 AM

hahaha, that thing looks like a bong!
heh, theres an idea; mod a bong and make it an air-trap, LOL!!!

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
hahaha, that thing looks like a bong!
heh, theres an idea; mod a bong and make it an air-trap, LOL!!!

well thats a project im lookin into....

Kevin · 04-04-2002, 03:22 AM

Haddy - it is best to put one of the barbs in the middle and one on an end. If they're on either end, it will sound like a waterfall unless the airtrap is completely full.
-kev

Brad · 04-04-2002, 03:33 AM

whats wrong with that kevin, it could sound very soothing

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin
Haddy - it is best to put one of the barbs in the middle and one on an end. If they're on either end, it will sound like a waterfall unless the airtrap is completely full.
-kev

huh? they arent on oppsite ends....

ShadyOak · 04-04-2002, 06:04 AM

Haddy

I like your design. I'm currently using a DuBro tank with a T below it and it does a poor job of trapping air. The water flow is fast enough that it just pushes the bubbles right through.

Where did you get the material for your trap? I've been looking around for clear plexi tube locally and haven't found anything yet.

How will you fill the system?

pHaestus · 04-04-2002, 08:35 AM

You should be able to find this stuff locally with the right approach. It is called hollow acrylic rod, and if you look up "Glass" in the yellow pages and call around you will probably find someone who can supply you with some. You can also probably get them to cut it for you as well.

pHaestus · 04-04-2002, 08:36 AM

How'd you drill the holes Haddy? Acrylic isn't the easiest thing to drill into. Also any thoughts on how to go about tapping threads into the tube? That would be a much cleaner solution...

ambient · 04-04-2002, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Where did you get the material for your trap? I've been looking around for clear plexi tube locally and haven't found anything yet.

Check it.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pro...utyrate+Tubing

probably have to cut and paste it.

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 12:05 PM

well shaddy i got most of the stuff @ home depot (barbs, silicon, acrylic tops which are made outta a sheet of acrylic) and i got the tube from petsmart, its just a gravel cleaner that i cut the ends off of and glued some tops on.....also ill just fill it like u would normaly fill an inline system..i just wont have to bleed it

ph i drilled it with a a drill w/ a 1/2 drill bit the i had to take a dremel and make the hole a lil bit wider (barbs wouldnt go in)..the only problem i had jus using the drill is i couldnt stop it in time before it hit the other side after i got threw the first hole....next time im gona use ea drill press....

btw usplastics is where i plan on gettin all the stuff for my next adventure with this...i dont recommend using this silicon stuff...havent had a chance to test it with a pump, just been filllin it in the sink and cing what happens and it wuz leakin (thats y theres so much silicon on some spots and not so much on others) so i should begettin my pump soon..lol im praying it just doesnt blow apart on me...i plan on using some arcylic weld #3 on the next project...http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthrea...&threadid=6791 theres where i asked linear about it

Kevin · 04-04-2002, 12:27 PM

Im just saying that the air trap will have to be pretty full to work well with how you designed it. And if it traps enough air, the water level will lower and you'll have to add some in order to not have a waterfall sound. I just htink it would have been more effective with one barb all the way on the bottom and the other just an inch or two above.
-Kevin

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin
Im just saying that the air trap will have to be pretty full to work well with how you designed it. And if it traps enough air, the water level will lower and you'll have to add some in order to not have a waterfall sound. I just htink it would have been more effective with one barb all the way on the bottom and the other just an inch or two above.
-Kevin

hmm ok heres what i based mine off of

guess i shoulda looked closer, they have their barbs like u said to havem....good to know for the next go around

Kevin · 04-04-2002, 12:48 PM

I would have the barb lower to make things easier, but it can still be done your way w/out much prob so don't worry abotu it

-Kev

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 12:56 PM

like i said this is just a proto...i probably wont ever use this one in my system cause i dont trust glue i can pull of with my fingers with no force at all (guess it doesnt like to stick to the acrylic to well)...thats y i made this lil thing first, so i could post here and c what u guys think before i waste alot of money...i should be ordering my stuff for the real deal here soon...

EMC2 · 04-04-2002, 07:09 PM

If you want recommended drill sizes for the fittings (these are based on them being tapped with a tap after drilling), look here. In general, the site has a lot of useful tidbits of info

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 07:17 PM

yea i gotta figure out how to tap this plastic

jaydee · 04-04-2002, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Haddy
yea i gotta figure out how to tap this plastic

I tap my acrylic top just the same way I do a metal top. Seems to work just fine, but the material will need to be at least 1/8" thick to get enough threads in there.

pHaestus · 04-04-2002, 08:44 PM

Are fittings National coarse or National Fine? I will go get the tap and acrylic to finish this up over the weekend if I can tap it.

The acrylic tube I have is 1/8" thick, but since it is a tube I guess it has somewhat more threads than it would otherwise. I was planning on putting some nylon barbs in it so I can use some sort of good glue to seal everything.

Haddy · 04-04-2002, 08:54 PM

sweet jaydee.... thanks for the info

ph look here http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthre...=&threadid=6791 linear tells what glue he used for his acrylic case

MeltMan · 04-04-2002, 10:33 PM

Wow, that looks similar to mine... except i put the barbs on each end (Duh) and you do get a waterfall sound (drives me nutz). So i just keep it filled completely to the top, which deprives the water of O2 and keeps things from growing in my straight distilled water setup. there is just enough air in mine to make a shower of bubbles flow down into the tap, but not far enough to get air into the lines

I'm planning to paint the ends to make it look like a "Ninja Turtles" Ooze container... and of course i'll put "TGRI" on it

04-03-2002, 11:06 PM	#1
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	Air Trap Pics... well first attempt at my own air trap...be kinda first time ive done this...already have plans for the real one as this is just a prototype..... http://www.haddy.d2g.com/mods.htm Last edited by Haddy; 04-04-2002 at 12:42 PM.

04-04-2002, 01:30 AM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	now that I can see it, really cool work __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-04-2002, 03:22 AM	#8
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	Haddy - it is best to put one of the barbs in the middle and one on an end. If they're on either end, it will sound like a waterfall unless the airtrap is completely full. -kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-04-2002, 03:33 AM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	whats wrong with that kevin, it could sound very soothing __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-04-2002, 12:05 PM	#15
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	well shaddy i got most of the stuff @ home depot (barbs, silicon, acrylic tops which are made outta a sheet of acrylic) and i got the tube from petsmart, its just a gravel cleaner that i cut the ends off of and glued some tops on.....also ill just fill it like u would normaly fill an inline system..i just wont have to bleed it ph i drilled it with a a drill w/ a 1/2 drill bit the i had to take a dremel and make the hole a lil bit wider (barbs wouldnt go in)..the only problem i had jus using the drill is i couldnt stop it in time before it hit the other side after i got threw the first hole....next time im gona use ea drill press.... btw usplastics is where i plan on gettin all the stuff for my next adventure with this...i dont recommend using this silicon stuff...havent had a chance to test it with a pump, just been filllin it in the sink and cing what happens and it wuz leakin (thats y theres so much silicon on some spots and not so much on others) so i should begettin my pump soon..lol im praying it just doesnt blow apart on me...i plan on using some arcylic weld #3 on the next project...http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthrea...&threadid=6791 theres where i asked linear about it Last edited by Haddy; 04-04-2002 at 12:08 PM.

04-03-2002, 11:13 PM	#2
jbe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: illinois Posts: 24	all i got was a big read X

04-03-2002, 11:36 PM	#3
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	they just red X for me too __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-04-2002, 01:11 AM	#4
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	* M I R R O R E D *

04-04-2002, 01:35 AM	#6
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	hahaha, that thing looks like a bong! heh, theres an idea; mod a bong and make it an air-trap, LOL!!!

04-04-2002, 06:04 AM	#11
ShadyOak Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9	Haddy I like your design. I'm currently using a DuBro tank with a T below it and it does a poor job of trapping air. The water flow is fast enough that it just pushes the bubbles right through. Where did you get the material for your trap? I've been looking around for clear plexi tube locally and haven't found anything yet. How will you fill the system?

04-04-2002, 08:35 AM	#12
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	You should be able to find this stuff locally with the right approach. It is called hollow acrylic rod, and if you look up "Glass" in the yellow pages and call around you will probably find someone who can supply you with some. You can also probably get them to cut it for you as well.

04-04-2002, 08:36 AM	#13
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	How'd you drill the holes Haddy? Acrylic isn't the easiest thing to drill into. Also any thoughts on how to go about tapping threads into the tube? That would be a much cleaner solution...

04-04-2002, 12:27 PM	#16
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	Im just saying that the air trap will have to be pretty full to work well with how you designed it. And if it traps enough air, the water level will lower and you'll have to add some in order to not have a waterfall sound. I just htink it would have been more effective with one barb all the way on the bottom and the other just an inch or two above. -Kevin __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-04-2002, 12:48 PM	#18
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	I would have the barb lower to make things easier, but it can still be done your way w/out much prob so don't worry abotu it -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

04-04-2002, 12:56 PM	#19
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	like i said this is just a proto...i probably wont ever use this one in my system cause i dont trust glue i can pull of with my fingers with no force at all (guess it doesnt like to stick to the acrylic to well)...thats y i made this lil thing first, so i could post here and c what u guys think before i waste alot of money...i should be ordering my stuff for the real deal here soon...

04-04-2002, 07:09 PM	#20
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	If you want recommended drill sizes for the fittings (these are based on them being tapped with a tap after drilling), look here. In general, the site has a lot of useful tidbits of info

04-04-2002, 07:17 PM	#21
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	yea i gotta figure out how to tap this plastic

04-04-2002, 08:44 PM	#23
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Are fittings National coarse or National Fine? I will go get the tap and acrylic to finish this up over the weekend if I can tap it. The acrylic tube I have is 1/8" thick, but since it is a tube I guess it has somewhat more threads than it would otherwise. I was planning on putting some nylon barbs in it so I can use some sort of good glue to seal everything.

04-04-2002, 08:54 PM	#24
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	sweet jaydee.... thanks for the info ph look here http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthre...=&threadid=6791 linear tells what glue he used for his acrylic case

04-04-2002, 10:33 PM	#25
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Wow, that looks similar to mine... except i put the barbs on each end (Duh) and you do get a waterfall sound (drives me nutz). So i just keep it filled completely to the top, which deprives the water of O2 and keeps things from growing in my straight distilled water setup. there is just enough air in mine to make a shower of bubbles flow down into the tap, but not far enough to get air into the lines I'm planning to paint the ends to make it look like a "Ninja Turtles" Ooze container... and of course i'll put "TGRI" on it __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

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