Spir@l needs a good clean :/

big|d0g · 08-25-2002, 02:18 PM

My setup has some crap in it,only thing its in the waterblock only looks like some bits of fluff or somit the systems only 3 weeks old my question is can i take the top of without the need for a new o-ring?

RickCain · 08-25-2002, 09:57 PM

Get the copper cleaner from Dtek and your set.

FRAGN'STIEN · 08-25-2002, 11:03 PM

As long as it doesn't tear or break in half it should be fine.

ambient · 08-25-2002, 11:03 PM

I took mine off like 3 times. I cleaned it with lemon juice and vinegar the first time, but I got some corrosion when I put it back together. So I had to clean it again. The second time I used Tarnax. That stuff works great!! A soak for 10 minutes and it will look like brand new cooper. You can get it at the grocery, or hardware store. Then It sat for a bit, so right before installing I took it apart again and cleaned it one last time.

ambient · 08-25-2002, 11:05 PM

oh yeah almost forgot. Just leave the O-ring alone. I didn't take mine out. It probably won't come out without damaging it. I tried, but started to F it up.

big|d0g · 08-26-2002, 03:28 AM

Thx

|PuNiSh3R| · 08-26-2002, 02:14 PM

hah if i broke my O ring i would just put a bead of silicon sealant around where the Oring sat and then put the top on.. so it seals with the top too

let it dry for 24-36 hours.. BAM! you are good

ambient · 08-27-2002, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by big|d0g
Thx

np.

Ice Czar · 08-29-2002, 01:27 AM

you can keep rubber O rings happy with a liberal application of WD40, keeps them from drying out (not that there is much danger of that in this application) goes for all rubber parts
oil barrier

sunblade · 08-29-2002, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by ambient
I took mine off like 3 times. I cleaned it with lemon juice and vinegar the first time, but I got some corrosion when I put it back together. So I had to clean it again. The second time I used Tarnax. That stuff works great!! A soak for 10 minutes and it will look like brand new cooper. You can get it at the grocery, or hardware store. Then It sat for a bit, so right before installing I took it apart again and cleaned it one last time.

Tarnax, the silver polish solution? I'm assuming it didn't damage the o-ring at all?

ambient · 08-29-2002, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by sunblade
Tarnax, the silver polish solution? I'm assuming it didn't damage the o-ring at all?

no it didn't, at least from what I could tell. I mean I cleaned it twice with the tarnax and i've had it installed for about a month now and now leaks

. Also the physical appearance of the o-ring was unchanged after cleaning. I did put a little Hyper Lube on the whole block after I cleaned it to try and protect from corrosion, but that didn't help and I ended up having to clean the block again.

*mat-ster* · 08-30-2002, 07:49 PM

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you can keep rubber O rings happy with a liberal application of WD40, keeps them from drying out (not that there is much danger of that in this application) goes for all rubber parts

No dis-respect, but.....I would advise against this (and the Tarnax for that matter), it depends on the type of rubber, in fact WD40 is often used as an Environmental Stress - degrading agent in polymer and rubber testing.

The copper cleaning stuff http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/18/136.htm?53 and a new O-Ring or 3 sounds like the best solution.

2old_honda · 08-30-2002, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by |PuNiSh3R|
hah if i broke my O ring i would just put a bead of silicon sealant around where the Oring sat and then put the top on.. so it seals with the top too

let it dry for 24-36 hours.. BAM! you are good

do not do that just buy a new O ring, they are only a few cents at any hardware store.

sunblade · 08-30-2002, 08:40 PM

Where do you order spir@l o-ring replacements? Is it the same as the TC-4? I only see TC-4r2 o-rings on dtek's site.

<edit> Also, I have a tube of liquid gasket type stuff, so that might be an interesting fix. </edit>

bigben2k · 08-31-2002, 11:01 AM

For those interested, if you pickup a Viton o-ring, it's made of a material that is oil resistant, so you could use petroleum jelly to seal it.

Ice Czar · 08-31-2002, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by *mat-ster*
No dis-respect, but.....I would advise against this (and the Tarnax for that matter), it depends on the type of rubber, in fact WD40 is often used as an Environmental Stress - degrading agent in polymer and rubber testing.

The copper cleaning stuff http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/18/136.htm?53 and a new O-Ring or 3 sounds like the best solution.

Hmmm...Really?
Ive been using it for years on the rubber parts of my ZX900 (Ninja) to keep the carburetor boots supple ect.

"What surfaces or materials are OK to use WD-40 on?
WD-40 can be used on just about everything. It is safe for metal, rubber, wood and plastic. WD-40 can be applied to painted metal surfaces without harming the paint. Polycarbonate and clear polystyrene plastic are among the few surfaces on which to avoid using a petroleum-based product like WD-40."

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_faqs.html

I guess they could be lying, but Ive had no problems with it in over 10 years and my XZ900's rubber parts are originals (1985)

nikhsub1 · 09-01-2002, 11:10 AM

Here is mine, done with Flitz and a dremel buffing wheel! Then I soaked it in Tulene to remove all residue. I had no problem getting the o-ring out and putting it back. What was weird was the lexan top was not on very tight, actually it was barely screwed on!

Administrator · 09-01-2002, 11:13 AM

Wow thats got a good deal of Bling Bling!

heheh looking good!

ambient · 09-02-2002, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by nikhsub1
Here is mine, done with Flitz and a dremel buffing wheel! Then I soaked it in Tulene to remove all residue. I had no problem getting the o-ring out and putting it back. What was weird was the lexan top was not on very tight, actually it was barely screwed on!

mine was the same way, not very tight

08-25-2002, 02:18 PM	#1
big\|d0g Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: uk..telford Posts: 17	Spir@l needs a good clean :/ My setup has some crap in it,only thing its in the waterblock only looks like some bits of fluff or somit the systems only 3 weeks old my question is can i take the top of without the need for a new o-ring?

08-25-2002, 11:03 PM	#3
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	As long as it doesn't tear or break in half it should be fine. __________________ This space for rent

08-25-2002, 11:03 PM	#4
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	I took mine off like 3 times. I cleaned it with lemon juice and vinegar the first time, but I got some corrosion when I put it back together. So I had to clean it again. The second time I used Tarnax. That stuff works great!! A soak for 10 minutes and it will look like brand new cooper. You can get it at the grocery, or hardware store. Then It sat for a bit, so right before installing I took it apart again and cleaned it one last time. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

08-25-2002, 11:05 PM	#5
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	oh yeah almost forgot. Just leave the O-ring alone. I didn't take mine out. It probably won't come out without damaging it. I tried, but started to F it up. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

08-29-2002, 01:27 AM	#9
Ice Czar Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: High Altitude Lab Posts: 94	you can keep rubber O rings happy with a liberal application of WD40, keeps them from drying out (not that there is much danger of that in this application) goes for all rubber parts oil barrier __________________ LurkyLoo

08-25-2002, 09:57 PM	#2
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	Get the copper cleaner from Dtek and your set.

08-26-2002, 03:28 AM	#6
big\|d0g Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: uk..telford Posts: 17	Thx

08-26-2002, 02:14 PM	#7
\|PuNiSh3R\| Foo's Been Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 255	hah if i broke my O ring i would just put a bead of silicon sealant around where the Oring sat and then put the top on.. so it seals with the top too let it dry for 24-36 hours.. BAM! you are good

08-30-2002, 08:40 PM	#14
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	Where do you order spir@l o-ring replacements? Is it the same as the TC-4? I only see TC-4r2 o-rings on dtek's site. <edit> Also, I have a tube of liquid gasket type stuff, so that might be an interesting fix. </edit>

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