Calling all geeks now

Joe · 11-12-2002, 12:16 AM

Hey folks,

I think as you can see on the staff roster on the site, stuffs getting a tad thin on the staff. Beav is in lala land doing school stuff, Kevin is off to pursue working on Nuke reactors and fun stuff like that, and everyone else besides Bri, Ph and myself are gone and busy with life.

Now this cant stand. One thing that’s hard about finding new folks to step up and perform on the staff is finding people who not only know how to write but have the time to write, and have the knowledge to back up what they are writing about. Its a very rare combination and rarely websites have even 1 person that can fulfill those requirements.

I think if there are some people like that I could find them in here, But I have come to terms that I suck as a recruiter... of all the people I have tried to get on the site, many have helped a lot, but an equal amount never did anything. Some are not even listed as Alumni simply because after a bunch of talk back and forth and inviting them onto the site, they said "Cool! I will get right onto getting stuff done for ya!" and well 3 years later, and I still have nothing from them

So, if you: [list=1][*]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[*]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[*]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[*]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[*]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[*]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1]
Then I think we can use you on the site. Please PM me in the forum, reply, send carrier pigeon, or email me if you are interested in helping the site.

We currently are in a nice solid position with our sponsors, and reader base and I think we have a ton of potential to kick it up a few notches if we could just get some more solid writing talent on the site. (cause lord knows I suck

)

What would really rock is to get some niche or independent writers out there that run their own lil sites to come onboard. I am sure we could work something out where they could host their site on the PC server as a lil money saving perk to them

I am just thinking of ways to get the best writing staff I can on the site to help solidify ProCooling as the center for all things cooling related. (yet still nicely niche like

)

If you got questions you can normally find me in the Pro/Chat after 6:00pm every day. ( or one of the other staffers or regulars.)

pHaestus · 11-12-2002, 10:00 AM

Joe:

I can't (off the top of my head) think of many people that are active enough at doing projects and articles, knowledgable enough, reasonably literate, not already tied to a website, and willing to work for free (that's the real kicker, eh?). Try bugging Morphling1 from the forums, he seems pretty sharp and always has something going on. If you could disable his caps lock, Bowman also is a phase change guru (he already has a site though). Similarly, Bladerunner does outstanding work but already has a website. Maybe you should make up with Una

Alternatively, would it be possible to have rewards for guest writers rather than bringing on more slackers? I have seen a lot of projects (in our forums even) of late that are worthy of Procooling's posting, but not anyone standing out as doing that sort of thing on a regular basis. I bet you could line up some GCs or products from sponsors that would be pretty tempting.

bikr · 11-12-2002, 11:06 AM

Joe,

If you are willing to let the past be the past and give me a chance. I can help you out. I have the experience. I have the time <-- I mean come on I modded my fridge I was so bored. I do apologize for my behavior on the forums in the past and would like to become part of the Pro/Staff. Well I guess that's all I can say. Hope you'll at least consider me for the position. Talk to you later.

Josh
aka. Bikr

pHaestus · 11-12-2002, 11:07 AM

You should also be upfront that becoming a Procooling staffer means that you'll be banned from HardForums (I dunno if that is considered a plus or a minus though).

bigben2k · 11-12-2002, 11:24 AM

Yeah, I got banned from [H]!

If it's any help, for those who would consider becoming a writer, make sure you have all your tools with you! Not having my Dremel with me has delayed me a great deal.

I wrote an airtrap article (still being edited), but I did send Joe the pics (You got them, right?).

I've got enough ideas to write an article a month.

pHaestus · 11-12-2002, 12:50 PM

OK Joe has some good stuff (tm) in the works. I just got a secrate message

Alchemy · 11-12-2002, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
You should also be upfront that becoming a Procooling staffer means that you'll be banned from HardForums (I dunno if that is considered a plus or a minus though).

Would it incite violence if a n00b such as myself asked what this means?

Alchemy

pHaestus · 11-12-2002, 02:02 PM

There was some unpleasantness, and it was made clear that Procooling staffers are not welcome at the hardforums. No great loss for either side concerned.

nexxo · 11-12-2002, 02:44 PM

Howdy...

I'm not sure someone in the UK will do you, but:

- I'm a computer geek since 1986;
- I have a pretty reasonable knowledge on all things computing and I'm good at sourcing solutions to weird practical problems;
- I'm working on a WC project right now;
- I can write and draw (I write clinical reports after all, and am currently working on an illustrated book on the brain and brain injury containing cartoons and anatomical drawings);
- I own a Fuji Finepix s602

- I own a dremel.

Errorz · 11-12-2002, 04:43 PM

im a ghost to most of you.

I doubt you guys remember me

I wouldnt mind droppign an article here and there. I am currently short on dough, but could get some up occationally.

contact me for an "interview" if your interested.

I have a drill press, plenty of copper, and a given amount of time i can play with.

I could use some smaller waterblocks for my chipset and gf.... already made my cpu block(which has yet to be tested... arg)

Joe · 11-12-2002, 10:27 PM

Hey Guys, I am hatching a plan!!

A way to let some of you who dont have the big time to spend on writing stuff every month but may have a few cool projects you want to get posted. And in this way you get some free stuff to!

Keep an eye out for the end of the week I plan to post something

golovko · 11-12-2002, 10:40 PM

I'm interested too. The only things holding me back are time and money (I'm a full-time college student with no job, but I work on the hollidays so I can fund projects during the school year). I'm currently studying Mechanical Engineering (one of my current courses is Thermodynamics I, which relates very much to watercooling). Because of my dedication to school however, I would only be able to drop an article here and there, but not on a regular basis.

jtroutma · 11-13-2002, 12:54 AM

Joe:

As being part of the forum community for quite some time, I feel that I should somehow "give back to the community" by heling you out. Granted I do not have tons of time on my hands and I do mantain (1) full time job, (1) part time job [private consulting when called upon], and a household to maintin [ammazing just how close college students relate to teenagers

]

If there is something I can do to assist ProCooling, be it a quick review here and there, moderating the forums, or peanut gallary comments,

I am more than happy to help. Drop me a line if you feel like giving me a shot.

Jtroutma

koslov · 11-13-2002, 02:29 AM

I think it would be neat if ProCooling gave a chance for all of us hobbyist WCers to show our work to a wider audience, instead of dwelling in obscurity susbsisting on what bandwidth we can find. In most cases, I think we are limited to forum posts to present our stuff, which (unless you take the time to frequent many forums concurrently) usually means one or two forums. Those who don't read WC forums will probably never see it. On the other hand, with legitimate articles ala Overclockers a lot more people can see our work.

The second advantage is that even good, informative forum posts tend to fall out of view fairly quickly. User-submitted articles would maintain this information in an easily accessible manner.

The reason I say this is that a lot of people put a significant amount of research in their WC rigs that can inspire others to replicate or modify ideas. Also, hobbyists like myself like to be rewarded when their ideas and hard work can be seen by everyone.

Take for example my first foray into the WC arena: my portable, interchangeable, quiet, high-performance cooling "platform" (open-box). If you haven't seen it, then it is evidence of the aforementioned phenomenon relating to forum posts. I think it was a good idea that had a lot of potential for further development, unfortunately I did not have the resources to improve upon it. Because of its quick decline into forum archive oblivion, few saw it and I bet fewer if any were inspired by it. However, if I had submitted it as an article somewhere, maybe someone out there would see that it satisfies their particular cooling application, and be motivated to improve upon it.

I think I speak for all WC hobbyists when I say it feels good to see someone use one of your ideas and transform it into something different or better.

pHaestus · 11-13-2002, 09:55 AM

Joe is going to take care of you guys.

airspirit · 11-13-2002, 02:06 PM

I'll have some stuff for you next month. In the meantime, host the Heatercore DBase I made (look in the WC section). People can use that thing ....

Cova · 11-13-2002, 02:55 PM

If you guys start taking guest submissions for articles (and I think thats what everyone seems to be hinting at) I'd be happy to send in writeups for any projects I do. I don't have near the time/money to do articles/projects on any kind of regular basis - but when I do take on a project (I think I average one a year or so) I usually make it a good-one. (current planning for next project will be a phase-change system to compete in the 2003 Fragapalooza case-mod competition). Ever since GlideUnderground died (well, it's kinda still there, but not really, anyone who used to visit back in the day knows what I'm talking about) I've been watching out for a good friendly site where I could get my occasional articles posted, and ProCooling would be my first choice if ya start allowing it.

pHaestus · 11-13-2002, 03:05 PM

Fragapalooza is in Edmonton, right? Maybe I should go this year...

bigben2k · 11-13-2002, 03:12 PM

That would be a better idea.

OC has a similar setup, and they've got tons of articles. A lot of them are one-timers, some came back once or twice, and some are regulars.

Heck, you might even get the great BillA himself to post something here!

BillA · 11-13-2002, 04:19 PM

ahem, nc

and myv65 ?
better by far I believe

Puzzdre · 11-13-2002, 04:30 PM

Collecting the articles from one-timers would give a good amount of texts on various themes to choose from, and can serve as a good base for monthly or whatever suitable rythm of publishing.
There are lot's of people willing to do it (me too), but not with an obligation.
Somehow I think (don't get me wrong now, pls!) that there will be more good articles collected this way cos' everybody will try hard to make it good, clear and respectable for posting it on pro/cooling, as pro/cooling being a place where it doesn't matter the 3DMark scores are high or not, or case being all sparkly and all.

Well, that's MHO.

Thanx.

airspirit · 11-13-2002, 04:45 PM

Only articles with blue LEDs and sparklies will work. No soup for you!

Puzzdre · 11-13-2002, 04:53 PM

, can I get the steak then?

Well, I must agree on the blue leds

Thx, that no soup for you phrase made me LOL, dunno, I just like it!

Cheers!

Cova · 11-14-2002, 01:14 PM

Yes - Fragapalooza is held annually in Edmonton AB every summer - but they are also starting to branch out a bit too (Fragapalooza-East is in a week or two somewhere in eastern canada, not sure on location). Anyways - if ya come to the next one post about it on here sometime closer to the event and we can plan to get together for a beer or something.

pHaestus · 11-14-2002, 01:16 PM

Depends on if I can get all my UV fans and blue leds installed by then cova.

11-12-2002, 12:16 AM	#1
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Calling all geeks now Hey folks, I think as you can see on the staff roster on the site, stuffs getting a tad thin on the staff. Beav is in lala land doing school stuff, Kevin is off to pursue working on Nuke reactors and fun stuff like that, and everyone else besides Bri, Ph and myself are gone and busy with life. Now this cant stand. One thing that’s hard about finding new folks to step up and perform on the staff is finding people who not only know how to write but have the time to write, and have the knowledge to back up what they are writing about. Its a very rare combination and rarely websites have even 1 person that can fulfill those requirements. I think if there are some people like that I could find them in here, But I have come to terms that I suck as a recruiter... of all the people I have tried to get on the site, many have helped a lot, but an equal amount never did anything. Some are not even listed as Alumni simply because after a bunch of talk back and forth and inviting them onto the site, they said "Cool! I will get right onto getting stuff done for ya!" and well 3 years later, and I still have nothing from them So, if you: [list=1][]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1] Then I think we can use you on the site. Please PM me in the forum, reply, send carrier pigeon, or email me if you are interested in helping the site. We currently are in a nice solid position with our sponsors, and reader base and I think we have a ton of potential to kick it up a few notches if we could just get some more solid writing talent on the site. (cause lord knows I suck ) What would really rock is to get some niche or independent writers out there that run their own lil sites to come onboard. I am sure we could work something out where they could host their site on the PC server as a lil money saving perk to them I am just thinking of ways to get the best writing staff I can on the site to help solidify ProCooling as the center for all things cooling related. (yet still nicely niche like ) If you got questions you can normally find me in the Pro/Chat after 6:00pm every day. ( or one of the other staffers or regulars.) __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

11-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#5
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Yeah, I got banned from [H]! If it's any help, for those who would consider becoming a writer, make sure you have all your tools with you! Not having my Dremel with me has delayed me a great deal. I wrote an airtrap article (still being edited), but I did send Joe the pics (You got them, right?). I've got enough ideas to write an article a month. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

11-12-2002, 02:44 PM	#9
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	Howdy... I'm not sure someone in the UK will do you, but: - I'm a computer geek since 1986; - I have a pretty reasonable knowledge on all things computing and I'm good at sourcing solutions to weird practical problems; - I'm working on a WC project right now; - I can write and draw (I write clinical reports after all, and am currently working on an illustrated book on the brain and brain injury containing cartoons and anatomical drawings); - I own a Fuji Finepix s602 - I own a dremel. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

11-12-2002, 04:43 PM	#10
Errorz Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: California Posts: 9	im a ghost to most of you. I doubt you guys remember me I wouldnt mind droppign an article here and there. I am currently short on dough, but could get some up occationally. contact me for an "interview" if your interested. I have a drill press, plenty of copper, and a given amount of time i can play with. I could use some smaller waterblocks for my chipset and gf.... already made my cpu block(which has yet to be tested... arg) __________________ The only Sig I have is a P228

11-12-2002, 10:27 PM	#11
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Hey Guys, I am hatching a plan!! A way to let some of you who dont have the big time to spend on writing stuff every month but may have a few cool projects you want to get posted. And in this way you get some free stuff to! Keep an eye out for the end of the week I plan to post something __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

11-12-2002, 10:00 AM	#2
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Joe: I can't (off the top of my head) think of many people that are active enough at doing projects and articles, knowledgable enough, reasonably literate, not already tied to a website, and willing to work for free (that's the real kicker, eh?). Try bugging Morphling1 from the forums, he seems pretty sharp and always has something going on. If you could disable his caps lock, Bowman also is a phase change guru (he already has a site though). Similarly, Bladerunner does outstanding work but already has a website. Maybe you should make up with Una Alternatively, would it be possible to have rewards for guest writers rather than bringing on more slackers? I have seen a lot of projects (in our forums even) of late that are worthy of Procooling's posting, but not anyone standing out as doing that sort of thing on a regular basis. I bet you could line up some GCs or products from sponsors that would be pretty tempting.

11-12-2002, 11:06 AM	#3
bikr Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 230	Joe, If you are willing to let the past be the past and give me a chance. I can help you out. I have the experience. I have the time <-- I mean come on I modded my fridge I was so bored. I do apologize for my behavior on the forums in the past and would like to become part of the Pro/Staff. Well I guess that's all I can say. Hope you'll at least consider me for the position. Talk to you later. Josh aka. Bikr

11-12-2002, 11:07 AM	#4
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	You should also be upfront that becoming a Procooling staffer means that you'll be banned from HardForums (I dunno if that is considered a plus or a minus though).

11-12-2002, 12:50 PM	#6
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	OK Joe has some good stuff (tm) in the works. I just got a secrate message

11-12-2002, 02:02 PM	#8
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	There was some unpleasantness, and it was made clear that Procooling staffers are not welcome at the hardforums. No great loss for either side concerned.

11-12-2002, 10:40 PM	#12
golovko Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Purdue University, USA Posts: 141	I'm interested too. The only things holding me back are time and money (I'm a full-time college student with no job, but I work on the hollidays so I can fund projects during the school year). I'm currently studying Mechanical Engineering (one of my current courses is Thermodynamics I, which relates very much to watercooling). Because of my dedication to school however, I would only be able to drop an article here and there, but not on a regular basis.

11-13-2002, 12:54 AM	#13
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Joe: As being part of the forum community for quite some time, I feel that I should somehow "give back to the community" by heling you out. Granted I do not have tons of time on my hands and I do mantain (1) full time job, (1) part time job [private consulting when called upon], and a household to maintin [ammazing just how close college students relate to teenagers ] If there is something I can do to assist ProCooling, be it a quick review here and there, moderating the forums, or peanut gallary comments, I am more than happy to help. Drop me a line if you feel like giving me a shot. Jtroutma __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

11-13-2002, 02:29 AM	#14
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	I think it would be neat if ProCooling gave a chance for all of us hobbyist WCers to show our work to a wider audience, instead of dwelling in obscurity susbsisting on what bandwidth we can find. In most cases, I think we are limited to forum posts to present our stuff, which (unless you take the time to frequent many forums concurrently) usually means one or two forums. Those who don't read WC forums will probably never see it. On the other hand, with legitimate articles ala Overclockers a lot more people can see our work. The second advantage is that even good, informative forum posts tend to fall out of view fairly quickly. User-submitted articles would maintain this information in an easily accessible manner. The reason I say this is that a lot of people put a significant amount of research in their WC rigs that can inspire others to replicate or modify ideas. Also, hobbyists like myself like to be rewarded when their ideas and hard work can be seen by everyone. Take for example my first foray into the WC arena: my portable, interchangeable, quiet, high-performance cooling "platform" (open-box). If you haven't seen it, then it is evidence of the aforementioned phenomenon relating to forum posts. I think it was a good idea that had a lot of potential for further development, unfortunately I did not have the resources to improve upon it. Because of its quick decline into forum archive oblivion, few saw it and I bet fewer if any were inspired by it. However, if I had submitted it as an article somewhere, maybe someone out there would see that it satisfies their particular cooling application, and be motivated to improve upon it. I think I speak for all WC hobbyists when I say it feels good to see someone use one of your ideas and transform it into something different or better.

11-13-2002, 09:55 AM	#15
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Joe is going to take care of you guys.

11-13-2002, 02:06 PM	#16
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	I'll have some stuff for you next month. In the meantime, host the Heatercore DBase I made (look in the WC section). People can use that thing .... __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

11-13-2002, 02:55 PM	#17
Cova Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 247	If you guys start taking guest submissions for articles (and I think thats what everyone seems to be hinting at) I'd be happy to send in writeups for any projects I do. I don't have near the time/money to do articles/projects on any kind of regular basis - but when I do take on a project (I think I average one a year or so) I usually make it a good-one. (current planning for next project will be a phase-change system to compete in the 2003 Fragapalooza case-mod competition). Ever since GlideUnderground died (well, it's kinda still there, but not really, anyone who used to visit back in the day knows what I'm talking about) I've been watching out for a good friendly site where I could get my occasional articles posted, and ProCooling would be my first choice if ya start allowing it.

11-13-2002, 03:05 PM	#18
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Fragapalooza is in Edmonton, right? Maybe I should go this year...

11-13-2002, 03:12 PM	#19
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	That would be a better idea. OC has a similar setup, and they've got tons of articles. A lot of them are one-timers, some came back once or twice, and some are regulars. Heck, you might even get the great BillA himself to post something here! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

11-13-2002, 04:19 PM	#20
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	ahem, nc and myv65 ? better by far I believe

11-13-2002, 04:30 PM	#21
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Collecting the articles from one-timers would give a good amount of texts on various themes to choose from, and can serve as a good base for monthly or whatever suitable rythm of publishing. There are lot's of people willing to do it (me too), but not with an obligation. Somehow I think (don't get me wrong now, pls!) that there will be more good articles collected this way cos' everybody will try hard to make it good, clear and respectable for posting it on pro/cooling, as pro/cooling being a place where it doesn't matter the 3DMark scores are high or not, or case being all sparkly and all. Well, that's MHO. Thanx. __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-13-2002, 04:45 PM	#22
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Only articles with blue LEDs and sparklies will work. No soup for you! __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

11-13-2002, 04:53 PM	#23
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	, can I get the steak then? Well, I must agree on the blue leds Thx, that no soup for you phrase made me LOL, dunno, I just like it! Cheers! __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-14-2002, 01:14 PM	#24
Cova Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 247	Yes - Fragapalooza is held annually in Edmonton AB every summer - but they are also starting to branch out a bit too (Fragapalooza-East is in a week or two somewhere in eastern canada, not sure on location). Anyways - if ya come to the next one post about it on here sometime closer to the event and we can plan to get together for a beer or something.

11-14-2002, 01:16 PM	#25
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Depends on if I can get all my UV fans and blue leds installed by then cova.

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